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12-07-2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Film for indoor portrait (baby) pics?

Strange question, I know. My brother and his wife are having their first soon, and I've been thinking of Christmas gifts. He has a Canon 35mm Rebel and the kit 28-80, and I thought a 50mm or 85mm lens and some good film would be a nice gift to enable him to not blind the kid with flash, and get some better pics than his wife's p&s.

Thinking color and at least 400 ISO. Any ideas? I prefer Fuji, but really haven't shot many portraits with film.

Also, is a color correcting filter required for indoor, incandescent shots?

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with flash no color correction
without flash yes, but the type of correction depends on the light

Now to do something different why not use ILFORD XP2 and get nice BW portraits?
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QuoteOriginally posted by titrisol Quote
with flash no color correction
without flash yes, but the type of correction depends on the light

Now to do something different why not use ILFORD XP2 and get nice BW portraits?
A fair point. Not sure what his 'style' might be, I would be well served to give him a few rolls of each to play with.
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Portra 800 or Fuji 800Z are basically your more 'pro' choices if you don't want to use Superia or Kodak 800
however almost all films are daylight balanced and therefore will have an orange tint when used under tungsten lighting

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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
Portra 800 or Fuji 800Z are basically your more 'pro' choices if you don't want to use Superia or Kodak 800
however almost all films are daylight balanced and therefore will have an orange tint when used under tungsten lighting
So go really old school and buy them a filter to correct for tungsten light!
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For indoors, I'd really consider something like Neopan 1600 (which I haven't personally used). For low light photography of people, you need pretty fast film.
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In color the main problem is that hospitals and houses are swtching to the horrible light saving light bulbs, which produce a terribly greenish or purplish light which is very hard to compensate for. Thus I thought BW could be a better idea.

When my daughters were born I shoot their first pictures with a digicram to send out to the family
After a few hours I quietly took the Spottie out, and shot with the 50/1.4 using Delta 3200 (as 1600) so not to use flash.
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What you don't want, is the baby growing up and bemoaning that the parents were too cheap to buy colour film!

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It doesn't matter, he won't know what film is anyway
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So go really old school and buy them a filter to correct for tungsten light!
but they eat 2 stops of light don't they
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but they eat 2 stops of light don't they
So get them an f/1.2 lens! Jeez, I have to think about everything :P

Seriously though, there's no easy answer to this. You either live with the colour cast, lose 2 stops with a tungsten filter or use specific tugsten corrected film.

My solution is to reserve film for outdoor shooting only, but that's not really going to fly here.
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To be fair, they have a decent panasonic point and shoot. This is a gift for me since I likely wont' be able to be there (they live back home in MN). I like the idea of B&W, actually. If nothign else, they could always try to fix the colour in photoshop after getting the negatives scanned.

Thanks all!
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For inside shooting I keep a camera body loaded with b&w Kodak Tri-x 400, pushed to 1600. The look of that film is amazing. There is also T-max 3200, which is another fast, beautifully grainy b&w film.
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I like Ilford XP-2. Many ISO settings on the same roll of film, and it is standard C-41 processing. You will get some sepia/blue colour shifts depending on the light source, but it prints black and white grainlessly.
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Over the years of shooting film I have tried everything; flash, tungsten film and colour conversion filters. All of them have issues and are limiting.

The best solution I found was to get two portable studio lights and use bulbs with a colour temperature the same as daylight colour film. (The bulbs have a blue coat and cost under $10 each) The two lights are enough to illuminate the subject area and also work great for indoor macro work. I can now use regular daylight slide film indoors with no exposure increase.

Phil.

B&H Photo sells the bulbs:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/173200-REG/General_Electric_40567_EBW_Lamp_500.html

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