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01-03-2010, 07:47 AM   #1
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B&W film use

I am going to try using B&W film for the first time. Do I need to make any adjustments to my cameras as opposed to using color? I don't have any particular settings in mind other than I will be shooting outdoor shots.

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In short: no adjustments necessary for exposure. Chromogenic films such as BW400CN and XP2 behave like color print films, and 'real' b&w film has a very wide latitude when it comes to exposure.

But your composition thinking needs an adjustment - you don't have color contrast to separate out different objects in the frame - red and green may turn out very close on the grey scale. So you need to look for light/dark contrast instead.
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Try different films, don't be afraid to experiment with the f stop, and see how it goes. If you become hooked on B&W - you can read up on the use of filters. Filters, and their proper use, makes all the difference with most B&W photography.
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Ditto for filters with B&W film, they make a big difference. I find UV, Yellow, Orange, Red and a Polarizer the most useful. Try some test shots of the same scene using different filters and compare the results.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Nesster Quote
But your composition thinking needs an adjustment - you don't have color contrast to separate out different objects in the frame - red and green may turn out very close on the grey scale. So you need to look for light/dark contrast instead.
+1 to rethinking!

+1 too regarding use of filters!

Bright green moss on gray rocks --> gray mess

Bright green moss + gray rocks + yellow filter --> light moss on gray rock

Bright green moss + gray rocks + red filter --> dark moss on gray rock



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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Bright green moss + gray rocks + yellow filter --> light moss on gray rock
How Photography Has Changed Me #182: I will walk through a lush tropical rainforest and think, "Man, this place is yellow..."
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As Steve says, colours can appear very similar in gray. Using a filter may help you see the tonal contrast better. Things like wood always come out will in B&W.
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What do polarizers do for B&W photos? More contrast?

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Polarizers give you almost crazy contrast.

For an awesome effect on a drab downtown shot, use a red or an orange filter. The sky will be almost black.

The real fun comes when you develop your own negatives. Then you can do a lot to control contrast and gradation. You'll learn about pushing and pulling film, contrast filters in printing, and dodging and burning.

To me, a real photographer is someone who exposes the film, develops the film, processes a final print, and displays it in matte and frame. Henri Cartier-Bresson would disagree with my view, however.
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What do polarizers do for B&W photos? More contrast?
The same as for colour film. (Polarizers were originally invented for B&W film.)

Use a polarizer and red filter for some 1930's horror movie effects!

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What, more saturated colours? I doubt it

I'm going to have to try this!
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What, more saturated colours? I doubt it

I'm going to have to try this!
Unfortunately the red filter removed the Maple Leaf and edges in the Canadian flag! It does wonders for the sky though!

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Unfortunately the red filter removed the Maple Leaf and edges in the Canadian flag! It does wonders for the sky though!

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Does that mean that you guys are going to finally surrender?

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Does that mean that you guys are going to finally surrender?

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Haha. Maybe, but never in hockey!

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Haha. Maybe, but never in hockey!

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Hey, they have Ryan Kesler...
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