Too many film bodies

FlashCube · 03-06-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

I'll echo that and add that multiple film bodies are more essential to me than multiple digital bodies because they allow you to carry different films.

That's the way it was done. It also allows having another roll loaded kind of like having an extra back.

Nesster · 03-07-2010, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by GeneV

I'll echo that and add that multiple film bodies are more essential to me than multiple digital bodies because they allow you to carry different films.

True, and they also allow me to forget which camera has which film - or any film - in it

GeneV · 03-08-2010, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by FlashCube

That's the way it was done. It also allows having another roll loaded kind of like having an extra back.

It is also why I appreciated the "M" bodies.

GeneV · 03-08-2010, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Nesster

True, and they also allow me to forget which camera has which film - or any film - in it

I guess we can add that to the list, similar to my "beware of the power of the dark slide" reference.

unixrevolution · 03-10-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Pentastic

I have acquired too many film bodies and want to reduce to 2 or 3. Anyone have opinions on which of these I should keep for a balanced arsenal? All are in excellent condition. I want to use rather than collect. I like to use Takumar lenses and black and white film. Longevity and flexibility are important. (FYI - I have K10d and K-x on digital side.)

K1000, MX, P3n, Program Plus, SF1n, PZ-1, MZ-L, *ist

The MX is nice, with its interchangeable focusing screens. Between the 2 fully-manual cameras, the MX wins over the K1000.

I am not familiar with the SF-1, but it doesn't look all that great. The Pentax PZ-1 has that unbelieveable 1/8000s shutter speed, so I'd hang on to that one over the P3N, SF-1, or the No-Manual-Mode Program Plus.

The *ist I would also keep, because of it's epic cuteness, and also it's multitude of features and decent performance.

MX, *ist, PZ-1. That's my two cents. Though if you decide to get rid of The MX or PZ-1 keep me in mind

Blue · 03-11-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by unixrevolution

The MX is nice, with its interchangeable focusing screens. Between the 2 fully-manual cameras, the MX wins over the K1000.

I am not familiar with the SF-1, but it doesn't look all that great. The Pentax PZ-1 has that unbelieveable 1/8000s shutter speed, so I'd hang on to that one over the P3N, SF-1, or the No-Manual-Mode Program Plus.

The *ist I would also keep, because of it's epic cuteness, and also it's multitude of features and decent performance.

MX, *ist, PZ-1. That's my two cents. Though if you decide to get rid of The MX or PZ-1 keep me in mind

There is a PZ-1 available in the market place right now.

AndrewG NY · 03-13-2010, 01:13 PM

I might be the wrong person to ask because I have way too many of these things but in defense of the MZ-6/ZX-L, it seems to be a little more solid-feeling than the *ist, and has snappier autofocus. *ist is even smaller, offers the extra AF points, and explicit metering-mode selection--but has a crippled mount, while the ZX-L can even do Av with K & M lenses.

In my mind SF and PZ bodies have the downside of larger, more expensive batteries, and don't offer the relatively inexpensive AA grips that are available for the MZ/ZX/*ist.'

P3n & Program Plus are pretty much a toss-up based on your preferences; ML vs exposure comp, manual ISO vs. DX, and viewfinder info. I like the sort of 'LED matched needle' in the P3n vs. the LCD's in the PP but the PP at least indicates f-stop when shooting in P mode (neither body offers Tv). Some like the dial on P3n vs. the buttons on the PP.

Blue · 03-13-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by AndrewG NY

I might be the wrong person to ask because I have way too many of these things but in defense of the MZ-6/ZX-L, it seems to be a little more solid-feeling than the *ist, and has snappier autofocus. *ist is even smaller, offers the extra AF points, and explicit metering-mode selection--but has a crippled mount, while the ZX-L can even do Av with K & M lenses.

In my mind SF and PZ bodies have the downside of larger, more expensive batteries, and don't offer the relatively inexpensive AA grips that are available for the MZ/ZX/*ist.'

P3n & Program Plus are pretty much a toss-up based on your preferences; ML vs exposure comp, manual ISO vs. DX, and viewfinder info. I like the sort of 'LED matched needle' in the P3n vs. the LCD's in the PP but the PP at least indicates f-stop when shooting in P mode (neither body offers Tv). Some like the dial on P3n vs. the buttons on the PP.

I decided between the MZ-3 and PZ-1p because I couldn't justify the cost of the MZ-S. I went with the MZ-3. The PZ-1 and 1p have 1/8000 shutter speed among other things.

GeneV · 03-13-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Blue

I decided between the MZ-3 and PZ-1p because I couldn't justify the cost of the MZ-S. I went with the MZ-3. The PZ-1 and 1p have 1/8000 shutter speed among other things.

The MZ-3 always looked attractive on paper, but I never see one for sale.

Blue · 03-13-2010, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

The MZ-3 always looked attractive on paper, but I never see one for sale.

I got mine through KEH. They turn up occasionally in the market place and EvilBay. They weren't marketed in the U.S.

jjdgti · 03-17-2010, 11:14 AM

Lots of different opinions. Some very interesting. I will pick the MX, Program Plus and the *ist. Also they are some of the more expensive of the bunch.

PZ-1 and SF1N are the workhorses and may last more than the others, but since there is some redundant functions I stick with my choice.

**ChrisPlatt** · 03-17-2010, 03:46 PM

Some here have suggested you sell the less popular bodies. You will likely have a hard time selling them and get very little.
If you must to unload some, sell the "keepers", and live within the limitations, real or imagined, of the "ugly ducklings"...

Chris

Blue · 03-17-2010, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Some here have suggested you sell the less popular bodies. You will likely have a hard time selling them and get very little.
If you must to unload some, sell the "keepers", and live within the limitations, real or imagined, of the "ugly ducklings"...

Chris

If I could implement this strategy, I wouldn't have X m42 bodies and x k-mount bodies.

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03-06-2010, 08:05 PM	#31
FlashCube Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In Transition Posts: 173	Originally posted by GeneV I'll echo that and add that multiple film bodies are more essential to me than multiple digital bodies because they allow you to carry different films. That's the way it was done. It also allows having another roll loaded kind of like having an extra back.

03-07-2010, 06:02 AM	#32
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Originally posted by GeneV I'll echo that and add that multiple film bodies are more essential to me than multiple digital bodies because they allow you to carry different films. True, and they also allow me to forget which camera has which film - or any film - in it

03-08-2010, 07:00 AM	#33
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by FlashCube That's the way it was done. It also allows having another roll loaded kind of like having an extra back. It is also why I appreciated the "M" bodies.

03-08-2010, 07:02 AM	#34
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Nesster True, and they also allow me to forget which camera has which film - or any film - in it I guess we can add that to the list, similar to my "beware of the power of the dark slide" reference.

03-10-2010, 01:43 PM	#35
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	Originally posted by Pentastic I have acquired too many film bodies and want to reduce to 2 or 3. Anyone have opinions on which of these I should keep for a balanced arsenal? All are in excellent condition. I want to use rather than collect. I like to use Takumar lenses and black and white film. Longevity and flexibility are important. (FYI - I have K10d and K-x on digital side.) K1000, MX, P3n, Program Plus, SF1n, PZ-1, MZ-L, ist The MX is nice, with its interchangeable focusing screens. Between the 2 fully-manual cameras, the MX wins over the K1000. I am not familiar with the SF-1, but it doesn't look all that great. The Pentax PZ-1 has that unbelieveable 1/8000s shutter speed, so I'd hang on to that one over the P3N, SF-1, or the No-Manual-Mode Program Plus. The ist I would also keep, because of it's epic cuteness, and also it's multitude of features and decent performance. MX, *ist, PZ-1. That's my two cents. Though if you decide to get rid of The MX or PZ-1 keep me in mind

03-11-2010, 08:51 AM	#36
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by unixrevolution The MX is nice, with its interchangeable focusing screens. Between the 2 fully-manual cameras, the MX wins over the K1000. I am not familiar with the SF-1, but it doesn't look all that great. The Pentax PZ-1 has that unbelieveable 1/8000s shutter speed, so I'd hang on to that one over the P3N, SF-1, or the No-Manual-Mode Program Plus. The ist I would also keep, because of it's epic cuteness, and also it's multitude of features and decent performance. MX, ist, PZ-1. That's my two cents. Though if you decide to get rid of The MX or PZ-1 keep me in mind There is a PZ-1 available in the market place right now.

03-13-2010, 01:13 PM	#37
AndrewG NY Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chappaqua, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 688	I might be the wrong person to ask because I have way too many of these things but in defense of the MZ-6/ZX-L, it seems to be a little more solid-feeling than the ist, and has snappier autofocus. ist is even smaller, offers the extra AF points, and explicit metering-mode selection--but has a crippled mount, while the ZX-L can even do Av with K & M lenses. In my mind SF and PZ bodies have the downside of larger, more expensive batteries, and don't offer the relatively inexpensive AA grips that are available for the MZ/ZX/*ist.' P3n & Program Plus are pretty much a toss-up based on your preferences; ML vs exposure comp, manual ISO vs. DX, and viewfinder info. I like the sort of 'LED matched needle' in the P3n vs. the LCD's in the PP but the PP at least indicates f-stop when shooting in P mode (neither body offers Tv). Some like the dial on P3n vs. the buttons on the PP.

03-13-2010, 02:51 PM	#38
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by AndrewG NY I might be the wrong person to ask because I have way too many of these things but in defense of the MZ-6/ZX-L, it seems to be a little more solid-feeling than the ist, and has snappier autofocus. ist is even smaller, offers the extra AF points, and explicit metering-mode selection--but has a crippled mount, while the ZX-L can even do Av with K & M lenses. In my mind SF and PZ bodies have the downside of larger, more expensive batteries, and don't offer the relatively inexpensive AA grips that are available for the MZ/ZX/*ist.' P3n & Program Plus are pretty much a toss-up based on your preferences; ML vs exposure comp, manual ISO vs. DX, and viewfinder info. I like the sort of 'LED matched needle' in the P3n vs. the LCD's in the PP but the PP at least indicates f-stop when shooting in P mode (neither body offers Tv). Some like the dial on P3n vs. the buttons on the PP. I decided between the MZ-3 and PZ-1p because I couldn't justify the cost of the MZ-S. I went with the MZ-3. The PZ-1 and 1p have 1/8000 shutter speed among other things.

03-13-2010, 02:53 PM	#39
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Blue I decided between the MZ-3 and PZ-1p because I couldn't justify the cost of the MZ-S. I went with the MZ-3. The PZ-1 and 1p have 1/8000 shutter speed among other things. The MZ-3 always looked attractive on paper, but I never see one for sale.

03-13-2010, 06:03 PM	#40
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by GeneV The MZ-3 always looked attractive on paper, but I never see one for sale. I got mine through KEH. They turn up occasionally in the market place and EvilBay. They weren't marketed in the U.S.

03-17-2010, 11:14 AM	#41
jjdgti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,824	Lots of different opinions. Some very interesting. I will pick the MX, Program Plus and the *ist. Also they are some of the more expensive of the bunch. PZ-1 and SF1N are the workhorses and may last more than the others, but since there is some redundant functions I stick with my choice.

03-17-2010, 03:46 PM	#42
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,694	Some here have suggested you sell the less popular bodies. You will likely have a hard time selling them and get very little. If you must to unload some, sell the "keepers", and live within the limitations, real or imagined, of the "ugly ducklings"... Chris

03-17-2010, 03:53 PM	#43
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Some here have suggested you sell the less popular bodies. You will likely have a hard time selling them and get very little. If you must to unload some, sell the "keepers", and live within the limitations, real or imagined, of the "ugly ducklings"... Chris If I could implement this strategy, I wouldn't have X m42 bodies and x k-mount bodies.