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Bower 8mm Fish-Eye at Adorama - $239 +FS
Posted By: Docrwm, 02-12-2013, 11:48 AM

Bower 8mm f/3.5 Lens for Pentax APS-C DSLR Cameras SLY358P

Bower 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye Manual Focus Lens for Pentax APS-C DSLR Autofocus Cameras






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I had ordered one of these from Buydig on 1/24/13 and it still shows as backordered (it was $225 there) but a price is only a deal if you actually get a lens

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02-12-2013, 06:15 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Docrwm Quote
Huh? No sure what you mean Stan.
Sorry - mind going faster than the fingers this evening - edited my post to say "Good for them (you)"

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Sorry - mind going faster than the fingers this evening - edited my post to say "Good for them (you)"
Thanks. I'm irritated because this is the second or third time Buydig.com has failed to deliver what they offered. Yes, their customer service was responsive, but if they had done what they were supposed to in the first place I wouldn't have needed to get them involved.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Docrwm Quote
Thanks. I'm irritated because this is the second or third time Buydig.com has failed to deliver what they offered. Yes, their customer service was responsive, but if they had done what they were supposed to in the first place I wouldn't have needed to get them involved.
I can understand your frustration - advertising something that they can not deliver is just wrong. At least with this one I would feel quite confident that you will see if delivered.
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I was very hesitant about this lens but went ahead and got it (Rokinon) because of the price. Very glad I did. It is easily one of my favorite lenses now.

02-13-2013, 05:40 AM   #20
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I can understand your frustration - advertising something that they can not deliver is just wrong. At least with this one I would feel quite confident that you will see if delivered.
I'm pretty much done with Buydig over this and the other fumbles they've committed.

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I was very hesitant about this lens but went ahead and got it (Rokinon) because of the price. Very glad I did. It is easily one of my favorite lenses now.
Thanks, that's always good to hear when you've just paid and are waiting for the lens to arrive.
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For the fisheye I can see keeping it manual focus. But Rokinon/Bower/Samiyang offers some really nice glass. It's too bad they don't actually build autofocus into them. It's not like it's terribly difficult for a Pentax, it's just a screw drive. No need for motors or anything. And they'd open the lenses to a much, much larger audience. An 85mm f1.4 AF lens for under $400 would be a no-brainer.

I did not however know about the hyperfocal deal with the fisheye. That has me much, much more interested. I was going to get the fisheye for the Q... now I may go for the Rokinon instead, and use it on my K-01.

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For the fisheye I can see keeping it manual focus. But Rokinon/Bower/Samiyang offers some really nice glass. It's too bad they don't actually build autofocus into them. It's not like it's terribly difficult for a Pentax, it's just a screw drive. No need for motors or anything. And they'd open the lenses to a much, much larger audience. An 85mm f1.4 AF lens for under $400 would be a no-brainer.

I did not however know about the hyperfocal deal with the fisheye. That has me much, much more interested. I was going to get the fisheye for the Q... now I may go for the Rokinon instead, and use it on my K-01.

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I agree that Rokinon doing AF would be Excellent. However its a bit more complicated than merely putting the screw drive gearing into the lens. There are electronics that monitor the lens, aperture, focus, etc. and interact with the camera body. Those and fitting the electronics and gearing into the lens is the challenge.
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It would be nice to see Samyang go from 80's tech to 90's tech. There's kind of a catch-22 here. If anyone is going to go to the trouble of making an AF lens, they will want to start with the Big Two, because that's where the sales volume is, but Canon EF mount has the motor in the lens. So the mounts with simpler mechanical couplings won't get made because they are lower priority than the more complicated mount.

There's also the contradiction that AF shooters generally want lenses with short focus throws for faster focusing, and MF shooters want lenses with long focus throws for more accurate focusing. If you add a clutch system with different gearing, you're adding weight, size, complexity, and cost. The question is whether it's enough more bang for the additional bucks to maintain Samyang's budget reputation.

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I don't care if an AF lens has a long throw. I actually prefer it. If a f1.4 lens takes a little extra time to focus, that's fine by me, as it means I'll still be able to manually focus it when necessary.

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I don't care if an AF lens has a long throw. I actually prefer it. If a f1.4 lens takes a little extra time to focus, that's fine by me, as it means I'll still be able to manually focus it when necessary.

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Long throw on AF lenses means that the lens will take longer to focus, which many find annoying and will rate the lens low for useability.
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The New Fish-Eye is here! Nice throw, well dampened, much lighter than I expected (I have their 85/1.4 which is a beast).
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Yeah, the 8mm and 14mm seem very different, concept-wise, from the later chunks of glass. My biggest problem with the 8mm was that enormous front element eating up all the room in the bag. One of the spring-tabs on the hood disappeared, but I was able to replace it with one from a generic lens cap.
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An outstanding sample image

Sample image from Galilean Nights Astrophotography winner Masahiro Miyasaka using a Samyang (Bower) 8/3.5 and K-r.

Milky Way Hermit crab | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The $239 sale at Adorama & BH is still on. I'm very tempted.
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Sample image from Galilean Nights Astrophotography winner Masahiro Miyasaka using a Samyang (Bower) 8/3.5 and K-r.

Milky Way Hermit crab | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The $239 sale at Adorama & BH is still on. I'm very tempted.
Very Cool. He also had the O-GPS-1 unit on his K-r.
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Sample image from Galilean Nights Astrophotography winner Masahiro Miyasaka using a Samyang (Bower) 8/3.5 and K-r.

Milky Way Hermit crab | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Wow, just wow. That really shows what can be done with a budget lens on an entry-level body, and the value of technique (and practice and patience) over gear.
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