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04-26-2017, 11:21 AM - 1 Like   #2
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Wouldn't a 300+1.4TC get better results at a lower price?
Why Pentax 400 are much more than Canikons?
04-26-2017, 11:49 AM   #3
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Not as many out there.

The "Star" designation automatically bumps up the price.

Finally, sellers can charge whatever they want (and some do.) It is up to the buyer to determine if it is truly worth the price.
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It's small, compact, and lightweight for a 400mm lens.

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It's small, compact, and lightweight for a 400mm lens.
Yes it is and takes some simply great photos. My dad adores his!
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I can imagine. I recently got FA300/4.5 which is quite small itself
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one just sold on ebay for under $900. i thought the price on these would drop after the release of the 150-450, but all of the fixed price listings haven't moved.

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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
DA* 300mm f/4 = $1100 at B+H Pentax DA 1.4x TC = $490 So that's already just about as much as the most expensive FA listed here for 20mm extra, and equivalent max aperture. ... Total weight on the 300+TC combo is 1190g. FA is 1140g. And last, but perhaps most importantly, the 300+1.4x combo causes loads of vignetting on the FF K-1. The FA is FF compatible.
That's comparing a new DA*300 f4 + new DA TC with a second-hand FA*400 f5.6. Even so, the price is in the same park. And the weight is similar.

With the DA combo, you get weather-resistance and (as you point out) quiet and smooth AF, albeit with greater risk of failure. (Whether SDM is faster or more accurate seems to be much debated.)

Yes, FA*400 might be a more attractive proposition for use with a K-1 (given the vignetting on the DA combo), but for use with an APS-C body, the equation might be different.

I think the comparison siva.ss.kumar was envisaging was FA*300 + 1.4TC against FA*400 f5.6.

Assuming the teleconverter is a FF compatible one (e.g. Tamron 1.4 pz) rather than the DA, there should not be vignetting on the K-1. (I don't know, I haven't got a K-1.)

The FA*300 weighs 935g. Add a TC and a tripod foot and the weight would be about the same as the FA*400 f5.6. Of course it would be one-third of a stop slower (equivalent to 420mm f6.3 rather than 400mm f5.6).

I find that using the FA*300 with a Kenko pz 1.5x TC (same as the Tamron 1.4x pz) barely degrades the image at all. It does affect the AF a little, but not much. (Possibly because the narrower widest aperture makes it harder for the camera to achieve focus.) I find that I generally prefer using that combination rather than the Sigma 400mm f5.6 tele macro, even though the Sigma has the advantages of a supplied tripod foot, a focus limiter, a small aperture advantage and correct recording of the focal length for SR and EXIF purposes.
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Perhaps someone who has used both can tell us whether the FA*400 produces markedly better images than the FA*300+TC.

My FA*300 and Kenko TC cost the equivalent of about $US800. An aftermarket tripod foot can be added cheaply. It is reasonable to ask whether the FA*400 is worth up to double the price.


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QuoteOriginally posted by siva.ss.kumar Quote
Why Pentax 400 are much more than Canikons?
Presumably because there are fewer options. (Not that 400 f5.6 prime lenses grow on trees in Canikon land - only Canon still sells one, I believe.)

The premise of the question is correct, I think. It's interesting to compare the prices of the Sigma 400 f5.6 Tele Macro in Canon or Nikon mounts with those in K-mount. Of course with K-mount you have IBIS, but that doesn't explain why the price is about double.

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Supply and demand.
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It is not like there is a lot of demand Less supply and lesser demand. So, why the price difference.
As rightly interpreted by @des I meant, even an old Tokina 400/5.6 for K-mount is higher than an equivalent C/N mount
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