This is why I hate ebay... FA* 80-200 "Good" condition

This is why I hate ebay... FA* 80-200 "Good" condition · 02:19 PM

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Pentax SMC PENTAX-FA* 80-200mm f/2.8 IF & ED Auto Focus Lens | eBay

From the description:

Quote:

CONDITION
Appearance condition : Good!! 8/10
Optical Condition : There are many fungus in the lens.
Mechanical Function : No problem
Shutter : No problem
Aperture : Clean
Focusing : No problem

The ad of course uses the "good" part not the fungus part to draw you in...

No affiliation with this sale. Just wanted to laugh with others about the "Optimistic ways" of some sellers.

**clickclick** · 07-22-2018, 08:19 AM

This is why I always send a message asking for the specifics where I specifically inquire about fungus, scratches, cleaning marks etc. to make sure even though the listing says one thing, the seller confirms it back to you. I've had some sellers pull the listing after asking these questions to then relist it with a description that discloses what I've inquired about. I've also had a few I've filed a claim for, which have all gone in my favor.

All that aside, I've had some very positive experiences from Japanese sellers, and in general have found their descriptions accurate. I like the way many of them break apart cosmetic versus optical descriptions. However, I generically dislike bait and switch, which is what I consider it when you use a cosmetic description to advertise an items that is functionally defective. I see some sellers that do that regularly, and it would be pretty unlikely for me to buy anything from them as a result.

**ChipB** · 07-23-2018, 06:15 PM

This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!!

TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back | eBay

**UncleVanya** · 07-23-2018, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by ChipB

This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!!

TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back | eBay

That is priceless!

SSGGeezer · 07-23-2018, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by ChipB

This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!!

TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back | eBay

I wanted to throw up just looking at the pictures! those are disgusting!

MarkJerling · 07-23-2018, 07:21 PM - **2 Likes**

If "Good!! 8/10" = "There are many fungus in the lens." then I'd love to know what 7/10 is. No front element?

**Erictator** · 07-24-2018, 01:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChipB

This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!!

TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back | eBay

My EYES! My STOMACH! My EYES! My STOMACH! My EYES!
AAAAAAUUUGGHH!

We really need a new barfing emoji . Wow... that is just sad. Looks like a barn find... a barn with a leaky roof!... or no roof!
Eric

Edit: I take that back... if we had a barfing emoji, people might start using it on my picture posts! LOL!

**Just1MoreDave** · 07-24-2018, 07:04 PM

The Hasselblads are up 33% - $405 - from the last time I clicked on that link. Admittedly I don't know the value here but they sure don't look like $405 worth, and bidding continues.

SSGGeezer · 07-24-2018, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

The Hasselblads are up 33% - $405 - from the last time I clicked on that link. Admittedly I don't know the value here but they sure don't look like $405 worth, and bidding continues.

Seriously??? There are lots of insane folks out there or they are worth stripping to bare metal for repair, since I doubt those lenses can be saved.

**grog85361** · 07-24-2018, 09:08 PM

I can't believe this one:

Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only | eBay

The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory.

**Just1MoreDave** · 07-25-2018, 07:59 AM - **1 Like**

That's an unboxing video I want to see. Especially if the winning bidder's spouse could be there.

timw4mail · 07-25-2018, 08:05 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by grog85361

I can't believe this one:

Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only | eBay

The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory.

It's digital lomo

**Erictator** · 07-25-2018, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

That's an unboxing video I want to see. Especially if the winning bidder's spouse could be there.

I could just hear the famous shower attack background sound track from Psycho playing while they unbox that...

**ChipB** · 07-25-2018, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by grog85361

I can't believe this one:

Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only | eBay

The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory.

There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!!

**grog85361** · 07-25-2018, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by ChipB

There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!!

For sure, huh?

---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 01:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by ChipB

There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!!

It should read "camera worked well"

**Erictator** · 07-26-2018, 01:15 PM

I would much prefer to gamble on something like this... for the price, and least it looks do-able for cleaning and would be a bargain if it works out, especially if you have the skills to DIY it.

SMC Pentax-F 300mm f/4.5 ED IF Auto Focus Camera Lens Japan In Travel Case | eBay

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07-24-2018, 01:41 PM - 1 Like	#36
Erictator Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,345	Originally posted by ChipB This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!! TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back \| eBay My EYES! My STOMACH! My EYES! My STOMACH! My EYES! AAAAAAUUUGGHH! We really need a new barfing emoji . Wow... that is just sad. Looks like a barn find... a barn with a leaky roof!... or no roof! Eric Edit: I take that back... if we had a barfing emoji, people might start using it on my picture posts! LOL! Last edited by Erictator; 07-24-2018 at 01:48 PM.

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clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	This is why I always send a message asking for the specifics where I specifically inquire about fungus, scratches, cleaning marks etc. to make sure even though the listing says one thing, the seller confirms it back to you. I've had some sellers pull the listing after asking these questions to then relist it with a description that discloses what I've inquired about. I've also had a few I've filed a claim for, which have all gone in my favor. All that aside, I've had some very positive experiences from Japanese sellers, and in general have found their descriptions accurate. I like the way many of them break apart cosmetic versus optical descriptions. However, I generically dislike bait and switch, which is what I consider it when you use a cosmetic description to advertise an items that is functionally defective. I see some sellers that do that regularly, and it would be pretty unlikely for me to buy anything from them as a result.

07-23-2018, 06:15 PM	#32
ChipB Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,701	This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!! TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back \| eBay

07-23-2018, 06:18 PM	#33
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,404 Original Poster	Originally posted by ChipB This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!! TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back \| eBay That is priceless!

07-23-2018, 06:22 PM	#34
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by ChipB This eBay listing may just get the award for the most honest listing!! TWO REALLY MOLDY hasselblad 500 c cameras with 80mm lens and back \| eBay I wanted to throw up just looking at the pictures! those are disgusting!

07-23-2018, 07:21 PM - 2 Likes	#35
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	If "*Good!! 8/10" = "There are many fungus in the lens.*" then I'd love to know what 7/10 is. No front element?

07-24-2018, 07:04 PM	#37
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	The Hasselblads are up 33% - $405 - from the last time I clicked on that link. Admittedly I don't know the value here but they sure don't look like $405 worth, and bidding continues.

07-24-2018, 07:33 PM	#38
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave The Hasselblads are up 33% - $405 - from the last time I clicked on that link. Admittedly I don't know the value here but they sure don't look like $405 worth, and bidding continues. Seriously??? There are lots of insane folks out there or they are worth stripping to bare metal for repair, since I doubt those lenses can be saved.

07-24-2018, 09:08 PM	#39
grog85361 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 893	I can't believe this one: Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only \| eBay The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory.

07-25-2018, 07:59 AM - 1 Like	#40
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	That's an unboxing video I want to see. Especially if the winning bidder's spouse could be there.

07-25-2018, 08:05 AM - 2 Likes	#41
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by grog85361 I can't believe this one: Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only \| eBay The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory. It's digital lomo

07-25-2018, 11:01 AM	#42
Erictator Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,345	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave That's an unboxing video I want to see. Especially if the winning bidder's spouse could be there. I could just hear the famous shower attack background sound track from Psycho playing while they unbox that...

07-25-2018, 12:12 PM	#43
ChipB Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,701	Originally posted by grog85361 I can't believe this one: Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II 2 Digital Camera Black Body Only \| eBay The seller says "The camera works great but has a crack in the front image sensor unit". The sensor looks like it was shot with a pellet gun! I have a hard time believing the camera "works great.". It might make camera noises, but I doubt the output would be called satisfactory. There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!!

07-25-2018, 01:15 PM	#44
grog85361 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 893	Originally posted by ChipB There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!! For sure, huh? ---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 01:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by ChipB There is no way in hell this camera "works great"!! It should read "camera worked well"

07-26-2018, 01:15 PM	#45
Erictator Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,345	I would much prefer to gamble on something like this... for the price, and least it looks do-able for cleaning and would be a bargain if it works out, especially if you have the skills to DIY it. SMC Pentax-F 300mm f/4.5 ED IF Auto Focus Camera Lens Japan In Travel Case \| eBay