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Pentax K-1 Mark II Full Frame Wi-Fi 4K HD DSLR Camera & FA 28-105mm Lens Kit 27075300040 | eBay

Sounds ideal for me personally - especially as I don't even own a tripod and an up-to- date flash. Most of the other bits such as extra battery & remote control I would need to buy anyway...

So what's the catch?

Obviously the customs and the resultant delays and duty might take the edge of the bargain...

[BigMackCam]

The flash is a simple, manual model - i.e. not P-TTL - but useful enough if you're happy working with manual settings. The tripod, I'm afraid, looks almost useless for DSLR work. It's more suitable for light-weight cameras - compacts, that kind of thing. Very much a low-end consumer model.

The rest of the accessories range from very basic / ersatz to "throw away" (there's no way I'd clean my sensor or lenses with that kit). The battery will likely be a generic 3rd party model labelled as "high capacity" - not very good, but possibly a useful backup. The card, if in fact it's a genuine Transcend card, should be fine, but nothing special. The bag... meh, it'll hold your camera and lenses, I guess, but you could do better...

Basically, it looks like one of the typical deals where a seller provides the camera and pads out the deal with cheap accessories to make it look like great value for money

[voles]

I take your point and thanks for the heads up on the tripod etc., but isn’t the price extraordinarily low for the body and lens anyway?

[BigMackCam]

I take your point and thanks for the heads up on the tripod etc., but isn’t the price extraordinarily low for the body and lens anyway?

At B&H, the price is currently $2,296.95 for the K-1II + 28-105 lens. So, with this deal from Cameta, you're basically getting all of those extras free. The combined value of the *useful* items - the card, flash, battery and bag - is less than $100, in my view. So you're maybe $100 better off with the Cameta deal. I don't know what they're like to deal with - they could be great. I've had experience of buying from B&H, though, and they were very good. I wouldn't let $100 sway me...

[BigMackCam]

One other point... I see that you're in the UK. Bear in mind that if you buy the camera and lens from a US dealer, if you need to send the camera in for warranty repair work, you'll have to send it to the USA. The items I bought from B&H were only available in the US, otherwise I'd have bought them locally. Yes, it's more expensive over here, but it's better to have the local warranty

SRS Microsystems has the K-1II + 28-105 for GBP £2099. By the time you've bought the camera and lens from the USA and paid shipping, import duty and VAT, I doubt you'll be paying much less than that anyway...

[BigMackCam]

I just worked out the estimated cost for that deal, including shipping to the UK:

$2297.99 + $85.65 shipping = $2,383.64

VAT @ 17.5% = $417.13

Import duty @ 4.5% = $107.26

Total estimated cost = $2,383.64 + $417.13 + $107.26 = $2,908.03

Using the current exchange rate of GBP £1.00 = USD $1.30 (which is better than PayPal or your credit card will give you), $2,908.03 / 1.3 = £2,236.94 (versus £2099 from SRS) !!

[voles]

I just worked out the estimated cost for that deal, including shipping to the UK:

$2297.99 + $85.65 shipping = $2,383.64

VAT @ 17.5% = $417.13

Import duty @ 4.5% = $107.26

Total estimated cost = $2,383.64 + $417.13 + $107.26 = $2,908.03

Using the current exchange rate of GBP £1.00 = USD $1.30 (which is better than PayPal or your credit card will give you), $2,908.03 / 1.3 = £2,236.94 (versus £2099 from SRS) !!

Thanks for taking the trouble to work that out! I'm convinced!

I have not decided whether I want the kit lens yet though the discount over buying the bits separately is significant. Nevertheless, I imagine all the caveats you have laid out would apply to the £1361 body deals on Ebay as well.

I like SRS - they sold me my K10D 11 years ago in Watford. At the 'normal' price levels they are as good as any and with better aftercare probably.

I didn't know about the warranty thing so thanks for that as well. That puts the tin hat on it I think.

Thank you very much.

[BigMackCam]

Thanks for taking the trouble to work that out! I'm convinced!

I have not decided whether I want the kit lens yet though the discount over buying the bits separately is significant. Nevertheless, I imagine all the caveats you have laid out would apply to the £1361 body deals on Ebay as well.

I like SRS - they sold me my K10D 11 years ago in Watford. At the 'normal' price levels they are as good as any and with better aftercare probably.

I didn't know about the warranty thing so thanks for that as well. That puts the tin hat on it I think.

Thank you very much.

You're very welcome!

[IgorZ]

You're very welcome!

Please don't convince me to buy anything! You are very convincing

[reduno]

Bear in mind that if you buy the camera and lens from a US dealer, if you need to send the camera in for warranty repair work, you'll have to send it to the USA.

For any members in the US, Cameta Camera is on the Ricoh imaging authorized dealer list, so warranty should not be an issue.

[jatrax]

I have not decided whether I want the kit lens yet though the discount over buying the bits separately is significant.

Don't think of the DFA 28-105 as a typical 'kit lens'. It's not. Within it's range it is every bit as good as the DFA 24-70. It is however, a much slower lens and if you need the constant f/2.8 then of course the 28-105 is not the answer. But as far as build quality and optics the DFA 28-105 is NOT a 'kit lens'.

[Adam]

One other point... I see that you're in the UK. Bear in mind that if you buy the camera and lens from a US dealer, if you need to send the camera in for warranty repair work, you'll have to send it to the USA. The items I bought from B&H were only available in the US, otherwise I'd have bought them locally. Yes, it's more expensive over here, but it's better to have the local warranty

Maybe things have changed, but it used to be a £50 fee for the warranty work to be performed locally.

VAT is definitely a valid point.

[BigMackCam]

Maybe things have changed, but it used to be a £50 fee for the warranty work to be performed locally.

VAT is definitely a valid point.

Interesting... I didn't know about that warranty out-of-country facility. That's quite an advantage over some other manufacturers...

Yes, both import duty and VAT make a big difference. Basically you're adding 22% onto the combined cost of the items AND shipping. It's always bugged me that they include the shipping in those charges.

[madbrain]

The K1 II is not a 4K camera.

[clackers]

The K1 II is not a 4K camera.

Well, the interval movies are, the normal videos aren't.