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07-20-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Maybe K-01 was not crazy?

Maybe the Pentax K-01 was not so crazy, maybe it was the sign of the future that will be copied?
Well it turns out that is just the case, as Canon reportely will launch a K-01 competitor next week.
Here's the article DailyTech - Quick Note: First Picture of Canon's Mirrorless Camera Hit the Web

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Unless the new Canon has the standard EF mount it's not like the K-01. The K-01 is still the only mirrorless that uses the full line of 25 million K-mount lenses from the mid 70's. Canon DSLRs can't even use their FD mount lenses from the mid 80's without an adapter.






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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
Canon DSLRs can't even use their FD mount lenses from the mid 80's without an adapter.
I don't shoot Canon, but my understanding is that the FD mount lenses cannot be mounted to EOS without an auxiliary optic to allow for infinity focus (same flange distance with similar mount diameter). Canon totally orphaned the mount. Of the major brands from the 60s, 70s, and 80s only Nikon and Pentax offer significant backward mount compatibility to legacy glass.


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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
Unless the new Canon has the standard EF mount it's not like the K-01. The K-01 is still the only mirrorless that uses the full line of 25 million K-mount lenses from the mid 70's. Canon DSLRs can't even use their FD mount lenses from the mid 80's without an adapter.
I vote you the one with the most toys!

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Details will not be known until maybe this week. It appears it may have a new mount???
Regardless the only point I was making is that others are following the lead and making higher mirrorless units although the K-01 is obviously superior. Well there be a succesor to the K-01 I wonder?
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QuoteOriginally posted by allknowingeye Quote
Details will not be known until maybe this week. It appears it may have a new mount???
Regardless the only point I was making is that others are following the lead and making higher mirrorless units although the K-01 is obviously superior. Well there be a succesor to the K-01 I wonder?
Following whose lead?

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Details will not be known until maybe this week. It appears it may have a new mount???
You need an adapter to use Canon DSLR EF mount lenses.

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Canon EOS M Specifications
The Canon EOS M that launches tomorrow will have the following specifications. Beyond the camera, the system will launch with 2 lenses, the EF-M 22 f/2 STM & EF-M 18-55 IS.
◾Adaptor at launch for EF lenses
Canon Rumors

07-22-2012, 03:54 PM   #8
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
Unless the new Canon has the standard EF mount it's not like the K-01. The K-01 is still the only mirrorless that uses the full line of 25 million K-mount lenses from the mid 70's. Canon DSLRs can't even use their FD mount lenses from the mid 80's without an adapter.
Every other MILC on the planet can use all the Pentax lenses, plus any other lens from any other system with a larger registration depth. Pentax is the only MILC locked into one mount.
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The K-01 was a stupid idea and still is because it recruits the major cons of DSLR and mirrorless. The sole reason of its existence is due to the existing K lenses. From the picture of the Canon mirrorless, they are sane enough to produce a thinner body with new lens mount (EF-M) taking advantage of that. Also, judging from the huge success of the EOS system (both technologically and financially), Canon was right to dump the FD mount. Pentax didn't have the ball for anything and look where she's standing now.
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http://www.petapixel.com/2012/07/22/canon-eos-m-specs-leak-one-day-before-official-unveiling/

Official product photos of Canon’s soon-to-arrive mirrorless camera — the EOS M — leaked late last week, and now the camera’s specs are following suit. Canon Rumors reports that the camera will feature an 18MP APS-C sensor, an ISO range of 100-12800 (expandable to 25,600), a 3-inch touchscreen, phase and contrast autofocus, autofocus during video recording, 1080p HD video, and various image enhancement features (twilight mode, creative filters, HDR, multi-shot noise reduction).

The system will also launch with an EF lens adapter, a new flash unit, and two lenses: the EF-M 22mm f/2 STM and the EF-M 18-55mm IS.

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QuoteOriginally posted by allknowingeye Quote
Maybe the Pentax K-01 was not so crazy, maybe it was the sign of the future that will be copied?
Not sure why you think the Canon EOS M has anything to do with K-01..... It does not.
EOS M is your traditional mirrorless system, and while K-01 is "DSLR - mirror - prism" system.

At any rate, current Pentax cameras are not selling well in Japan, even the newly released K-30 failed to excite the buyers.
And K-01 is doing much worse; it does not even make it into the top 100 cameras in BCNRanking sales chart in Japan, and that's pretty sad as a camera only 5 months old.
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I'm more inclined to believe this camera aims to compete with Sony NEX5N.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nosnoop Quote
Not sure why you think the Canon EOS M has anything to do with K-01..... It does not.
EOS M is your traditional mirrorless system, and while K-01 is "DSLR - mirror - prism" system.

At any rate, current Pentax cameras are not selling well in Japan, even the newly released K-30 failed to excite the buyers.
And K-01 is doing much worse; it does not even make it into the top 100 cameras in BCNRanking sales chart in Japan, and that's pretty sad as a camera only 5 months old.
The K-5 is 39th and the Q is ranked 45th. The K-30 double zoom kit is ranked 67th (up two spots) and the K-5 18-55WR kit is next at 68th. The K-30 & K-5's with 18-135's are tied at 75th.
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QuoteOriginally posted by selar Quote
I'm more inclined to believe this camera aims to compete with Sony NEX5N.
Yep, i agree. Its not clear that the Canon has a tilt LCD screen, but it has a hotshoe which is one better than the Nex5n. No VF for those that like them. APS sensor- love that. Interesting thing about Canon compact is the phase and CDAF systems in the camera. None of the other APS compacts have that.

I have an old Canon PS, for which i always liked their menu system - easy to learn and remember. I might be interested in this camera if its got contrast peaking and a pentax adapter is available. Sony isn't going to be passive though, not with their Nex F5 coming out this summer.
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If this Canon retains much the same [lacklustre] 18mp sensor as the 550/600/7d etc, the NEX-5N will eat it for lunch.
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