K200D interior movement

ShutterLag · 02-14-2009, 03:50 PM

So it's been about 2 days since I bought my K200D ... loving it ... having trouble putting it down.

I've noticed that when I turn the camera on it's side it feels and sounds like something is sliding around in the body. There is a noticeable sliding sound and small clunk. My description is probably not that good ... but is this normal?

I've taken the lens off and batteries out and the same thing happens.

I don't remember noticing this when playing with the K200D or any other camera in the stores. Has any one else noticed the same thing?

Thanks.

Elle · 02-14-2009, 05:18 PM

It could be your anti-dust is on and its shaking dust off its sensors.

ftpaddict · 02-14-2009, 05:26 PM

That's the sensor moving about, because the whatever-it-is-that-holds-the-sensor-in-place-when-making-an-exposures are inactive. It's completely normal, and every new Pentax model does that. Nothing to fear.

jak442 · 02-14-2009, 08:43 PM

exactly!!! the sensor is held in place by electromagnets that are only active when the power is on. If you shake your camera with the power off you can hear/feel the sensor move. I notice it a lot when I'm walking with it hanging in my hand.

ShutterLag · 02-15-2009, 02:28 PM

Oh good!

Thanks everyone!!

Just to be absolutely sure though ... it does the same thing whether the camera is on or off ... still okay??

ftpaddict · 02-15-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ShutterLag

Oh good!

Thanks everyone!!

Just to be absolutely sure though ... it does the same thing whether the camera is on or off ... still okay??

All perfectly normal.

ShutterLag · 02-15-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

All perfectly normal.

Sweet! Thanks again!!

KungPOW · 02-16-2009, 12:42 AM

This should be on the first page in the user's manual.

Has anyone NOT felt the "klunk" for the first time and and wondered?

Page two should be how to use lenses with aperture rings.

Page three explains the "buzz" sound with long exposures and SR on.

Page four covers the "sigh" sound after multiexposure and SR on.

Page five explains focal length and APS-C format sensor. Without the marketing garbage.

Enjoy your new camera, and welcome.

ShutterLag · 02-17-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by KungPOW

Page three explains the "buzz" sound with long exposures and SR on.

Haha ... I totally agree! The "buzz" sound was my next concern.

**Just1MoreDave** · 02-17-2009, 10:58 AM

Page six - how long exposure dark frame subtraction works.

ShutterLag · 02-17-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

Page six - how long exposure dark frame subtraction works.

I don't even know what that is yet

... guess I should read page six!

**Just1MoreDave** · 02-17-2009, 11:47 AM

I don't think that's the official name in the manual, it's something like long exposure noise reduction. If you take a photo with a long shutter speed, you'll notice that you can't take another photo right away. The camera takes a second photo with the shutter closed for the same length of time, the "dark frame". Then it subtracts anything in that photo (which is pretty much noise from the sensor) from your real picture. When you do your first 15 second exposure, you usually get surprised that the preview doesn't come up, then wonder what is wrong, then panic that your camera is broken, all in the 15 second dark frame time. I think it can be turned off on all the models except the K20D.

ShutterLag · 02-17-2009, 12:04 PM

Ah yes, I had heard mention of something similar before. Wasn't aware of the use of a dark frame though. Thanks for the explanation.

02-14-2009, 03:50 PM	#1
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25	K200D interior movement So it's been about 2 days since I bought my K200D ... loving it ... having trouble putting it down. I've noticed that when I turn the camera on it's side it feels and sounds like something is sliding around in the body. There is a noticeable sliding sound and small clunk. My description is probably not that good ... but is this normal? I've taken the lens off and batteries out and the same thing happens. I don't remember noticing this when playing with the K200D or any other camera in the stores. Has any one else noticed the same thing? Thanks.

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02-14-2009, 05:18 PM	#2
Elle Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: St. Louis Photos: Gallery Posts: 59	It could be your anti-dust is on and its shaking dust off its sensors.

02-14-2009, 05:26 PM	#3
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	That's the sensor moving about, because the *whatever-it-is-that-holds-the-sensor-in-place-when-making-an-exposure*s are inactive. It's completely normal, and every new Pentax model does that. Nothing to fear.

02-14-2009, 08:43 PM	#4
jak442 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 54	exactly!!! the sensor is held in place by electromagnets that are only active when the power is on. If you shake your camera with the power off you can hear/feel the sensor move. I notice it a lot when I'm walking with it hanging in my hand.

02-15-2009, 02:28 PM	#5
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25 Original Poster	Oh good! Thanks everyone!! Just to be absolutely sure though ... it does the same thing whether the camera is on or off ... still okay??

02-15-2009, 03:31 PM	#6
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by ShutterLag Oh good! Thanks everyone!! Just to be absolutely sure though ... it does the same thing whether the camera is on or off ... still okay?? All perfectly normal.

02-15-2009, 10:20 PM	#7
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by ftpaddict All perfectly normal. Sweet! Thanks again!!

02-16-2009, 12:42 AM	#8
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	This should be on the first page in the user's manual. Has anyone NOT felt the "klunk" for the first time and and wondered? Page two should be how to use lenses with aperture rings. Page three explains the "buzz" sound with long exposures and SR on. Page four covers the "sigh" sound after multiexposure and SR on. Page five explains focal length and APS-C format sensor. Without the marketing garbage. Enjoy your new camera, and welcome.

02-17-2009, 08:23 AM	#9
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by KungPOW Page three explains the "buzz" sound with long exposures and SR on. Haha ... I totally agree! The "buzz" sound was my next concern.

02-17-2009, 10:58 AM	#10
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Page six - how long exposure dark frame subtraction works.

02-17-2009, 11:20 AM	#11
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave Page six - how long exposure dark frame subtraction works. I don't even know what that is yet ... guess I should read page six!

02-17-2009, 11:47 AM	#12
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	I don't think that's the official name in the manual, it's something like long exposure noise reduction. If you take a photo with a long shutter speed, you'll notice that you can't take another photo right away. The camera takes a second photo with the shutter closed for the same length of time, the "dark frame". Then it subtracts anything in that photo (which is pretty much noise from the sensor) from your real picture. When you do your first 15 second exposure, you usually get surprised that the preview doesn't come up, then wonder what is wrong, then panic that your camera is broken, all in the 15 second dark frame time. I think it can be turned off on all the models except the K20D.

02-17-2009, 12:04 PM	#13
ShutterLag Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 25 Original Poster	Ah yes, I had heard mention of something similar before. Wasn't aware of the use of a dark frame though. Thanks for the explanation.