Why is my K10D bracketing like this?!

jshurak · 04-07-2008, 05:12 AM

I'm not really sure what's going on here. On my older K10D body, Bracketing worked fine. Press the bracket button and set the values, shoot away. So, for example The exposure meter looked like so:

Code:

       _   _   _         
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For some reason, on my newer body, the center exposure, is always a stop too high. The meter now looks like so:

Code:

            _   _   _
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Anyone know what's going on?

pop4 · 04-07-2008, 06:02 AM

You've got exposure compensation on +ve. Try turning exposure compensation off (i.e. back to normal)

jshurak · 04-07-2008, 06:40 AM

pop, thanks. This is in manual mode, so exposure compensation shouldn't be on at all. unless this is something in the menu settings

Gadget_Guy · 04-07-2008, 07:01 AM

It is something in the menu settings.

I had this happen to me on the weekend and I had to go to my trusty K10 Book to find out why.

I am at work right now... if this isn't resolved by time I get home I will look it up and reply then.

D.

tybeck · 04-07-2008, 07:28 AM

I checked this on my K10D and it seems normal. If looks like exposure compensation carries over between modes. So if you had +1 EV in Sv, Tv, Av, ... you'd also see it displayed in M. How this affects the camera settings in manual I don't know. Though like you pointed out it shouldn't, because it's manual. If you want to be safe it looks like you'd need to set to 0 EV in another mode.

**Canada_Rockies** · 04-07-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by tybeck

I checked this on my K10D and it seems normal. If looks like exposure compensation carries over between modes. So if you had +1 EV in Sv, Tv, Av, ... you'd also see it displayed in M. How this affects the camera settings in manual I don't know. Though like you pointed out it shouldn't, because it's manual. If you want to be safe it looks like you'd need to set to 0 EV in another mode.

The exposure compensation is applied to the meter, not to any specific mode.

Gadget_Guy · 04-07-2008, 04:45 PM

Okay... as promised.....

Go to:

Menu
Custom Settings
Auto Bracketing Order

Put 0 in the middle and I think you should be fine.

I hope this helps.

D.

jshurak · 04-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Gadget_Guy

Okay... as promised.....

Go to:

Menu
Custom Settings
Auto Bracketing Order

Put 0 in the middle and I think you should be fine.

I hope this helps.

D.

thanks, I'll have to check that out later

madisonphotogrl · 04-08-2008, 12:02 PM

Sweet! you all helped each other out. awesome!

YAY!! (I am in a very wierd mood today sorry)

jshurak · 04-08-2008, 03:56 PM

D - I checked your suggestion first, but it was already set to that.

Tybeck had it right. I checked a program mode and the compensation was set to +1. It carries over into bracketing

Gadget_Guy · 04-08-2008, 05:22 PM

Tybeck FTW!

Glad you got it resolved.

D.

KungPOW · 04-08-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by madisonphotogrl

Sweet! you all helped each other out. awesome!

YAY!! (I am in a very wierd mood today sorry)

cabin feaver still?

jshurak · 04-09-2008, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Gadget_Guy

Tybeck FTW!

Glad you got it resolved.

D.

resolved....yes....to a point.

This is my second K10D body. My first one constantly underexposes images by....a stop. When I got this one I immediately noticed the difference. The meter was exposing properly! I never touched the camera out of manual mode and certainly never adjusted the exposure compensation. So you can imagine my surprise when I turned it to a program mode and saw, in fact, that exposure compensation was dialed to +1.

Turning it back to 0 solved the bracketing issue, but as I'm sure you can guess by now.......the meter was underexposing images by a stop.

So in actuality, there were two people correct here: Tybeck and Albert (Canada_Rockies).

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

The exposure compensation is applied to the meter, not to any specific mode.

don't believe the manual for the K10D....specifically when it says "EV compensation is not available when the exposure mode is set to ...M(hyper-manual)..." page 161. (can't speak for green mode or whatever else)

Because EV compensation applies to the meter, it does in fact come into play in manual mode....you just can't adjust it unless in a program mode!

I have since learning this, turned EV comp back to +1 and am just letting bracketing do its thing!

04-07-2008, 05:12 AM	#1
jshurak Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 626	Why is my K10D bracketing like this?! I'm not really sure what's going on here. On my older K10D body, Bracketing worked fine. Press the bracket button and set the values, shoot away. So, for example The exposure meter looked like so: *Code:* _ _ _ <--\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---> For some reason, on my newer body, the center exposure, is always a stop too high. The meter now looks like so: *Code:* _ _ _ <---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---> Anyone know what's going on?

04-08-2008, 12:02 PM	#9
madisonphotogrl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 270	Sweet! you all helped each other out. awesome! YAY!! (I am in a very wierd mood today sorry) Last edited by madisonphotogrl; 04-08-2008 at 12:11 PM.

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04-07-2008, 06:02 AM	#2
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	You've got exposure compensation on +ve. Try turning exposure compensation off (i.e. back to normal)

04-07-2008, 06:40 AM	#3
jshurak Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 626 Original Poster	pop, thanks. This is in manual mode, so exposure compensation shouldn't be on at all. unless this is something in the menu settings

04-07-2008, 07:01 AM	#4
Gadget_Guy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 374	It is something in the menu settings. I had this happen to me on the weekend and I had to go to my trusty K10 Book to find out why. I am at work right now... if this isn't resolved by time I get home I will look it up and reply then. D.

04-07-2008, 07:28 AM	#5
tybeck Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 452	I checked this on my K10D and it seems normal. If looks like exposure compensation carries over between modes. So if you had +1 EV in Sv, Tv, Av, ... you'd also see it displayed in M. How this affects the camera settings in manual I don't know. Though like you pointed out it shouldn't, because it's manual. If you want to be safe it looks like you'd need to set to 0 EV in another mode.

04-07-2008, 02:41 PM	#6
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by tybeck I checked this on my K10D and it seems normal. If looks like exposure compensation carries over between modes. So if you had +1 EV in Sv, Tv, Av, ... you'd also see it displayed in M. How this affects the camera settings in manual I don't know. Though like you pointed out it shouldn't, because it's manual. If you want to be safe it looks like you'd need to set to 0 EV in another mode. The exposure compensation is applied to the meter, not to any specific mode.

04-07-2008, 04:45 PM	#7
Gadget_Guy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 374	Okay... as promised..... Go to: Menu Custom Settings Auto Bracketing Order Put 0 in the middle and I think you should be fine. I hope this helps. D.

04-08-2008, 08:31 AM	#8
jshurak Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 626 Original Poster	Originally posted by Gadget_Guy Okay... as promised..... Go to: Menu Custom Settings Auto Bracketing Order Put 0 in the middle and I think you should be fine. I hope this helps. D. thanks, I'll have to check that out later

04-08-2008, 03:56 PM	#10
jshurak Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 626 Original Poster	D - I checked your suggestion first, but it was already set to that. Tybeck had it right. I checked a program mode and the compensation was set to +1. It carries over into bracketing

04-08-2008, 05:22 PM	#11
Gadget_Guy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 374	Tybeck FTW! Glad you got it resolved. D.

04-08-2008, 05:48 PM	#12
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	Originally posted by madisonphotogrl Sweet! you all helped each other out. awesome! YAY!! (I am in a very wierd mood today sorry) cabin feaver still?

04-09-2008, 10:42 AM	#13
jshurak Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 626 Original Poster	Originally posted by Gadget_Guy Tybeck FTW! Glad you got it resolved. D. resolved....yes....to a point. This is my second K10D body. My first one constantly underexposes images by....a stop. When I got this one I immediately noticed the difference. The meter was exposing properly! I never touched the camera out of manual mode and certainly never adjusted the exposure compensation. So you can imagine my surprise when I turned it to a program mode and saw, in fact, that exposure compensation was dialed to +1. Turning it back to 0 solved the bracketing issue, but as I'm sure you can guess by now.......the meter was underexposing images by a stop. So in actuality, there were two people correct here: Tybeck and Albert (Canada_Rockies). Originally posted by Canada_Rockies The exposure compensation is applied to the meter, not to any specific mode. don't believe the manual for the K10D....specifically when it says "EV compensation is not available when the exposure mode is set to ...M(hyper-manual)..." page 161. (can't speak for green mode or whatever else) Because EV compensation applies to the meter, it does in fact come into play in manual mode....you just can't adjust it unless in a program mode! I have since learning this, turned EV comp back to +1 and am just letting bracketing do its thing!