Originally posted by Wheatfield Well my friend, I have a K7 screen sitting on the desk in front of me. When it is oriented to go into the camera (tab on the left) the groundglass side is facing downwards. On my 4x5 view camera, the ground glass side of the screen is nearest the lens. On my Nikon F2s, the groundglass side of the screen is nearest the mirror, on my LX, the ground glass is nearest the mirror.
I don't really care if you agree with me or not. You can believe me, or you can believe something else and be wrong. It doesn't affect my life.
All you have to do is take a screen, orient it so that it will go into a camera and look at where the ground side is facing.
I mean really people, this isn't rocket science, just take the screen out of your camera and look at it.
Yours would have to be the only Pentax DSLR ever that has had the ground glass (rough surface used for focusing) facing down on the opposite side of the pentaprism. All my Pentax DSLR's have the ground glass (rough surface used for focusing) facing upwards towards the pentaprism. This is borne out by Rachael Katz of Katz Eye focus screens and exactly
why the thickness of the glass has no bearing on focus. I quote from an email Rachael Katz; "On all Pentax DSLR cameras, the ground glass surface (aka as the diffusion surface and serving as the focal plane) is on the top, against the pentaprism (or pentamirror) and the bottom surface (the side visible through the lens mount) is the Fresnel lens surface. In fact, this is the arrangement in every DSLR that we have studied to date, from every manufacturer, with the notable exception of the Olympus cameras with side-swing mirrors."
I further add from Rachael; "ground glass surface is the rough surface, located at the focal plane, that is used for focusing. It is located on the top of the focusing screen in Pentax DSLRs. The Fresnel surface is on the other side, located downward in Pentax DSLRs, which serves to expand the image from the lens to fill the viewfinder. The grid lines, when supplied, are applied to the upper ground glass surface."
I think you are confusing the Fresnal surface - used for expanding the image to fill the VF - with the ground glass surface for focusing.
The adjustment shim is placed between the ground glass face of the focus screen and the pentaprism in order to calibrate the screen. The reason that the shim makes a difference is because it changes the distance from the subject to the ground glass of the focus screen. I repeat again, the shims are available in various thicknesses from .10mm to .50mm inclusive in .05mm increments in order to adjust distance from subject to Fresnal surface
Looking at the figure below, the ground glass surface is the surface on top of the yellow rectangle which represents the focus screen. The shim goes between the top surface of the focus screen - top of the yellow rectange - and the bottom of the pentaprism in order to adjust for back or front focus.
In this figure below, the shim goes where the "transparent pad put here" is indicating. This adjusts the distance from subject to focus surface of the screen. If the shim were put below the screen (nearest the mirror) this would have
no effect whatsoever on the distance between the subject and the focus surface as it doesn't alter
anything.