Electro Spotmatic (Black) and ES 2 (Black).

senator · 03-21-2009, 09:15 PM

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I own both these cameras and would be gratefull for any info on value and rarity. I believe the Electro Spotmatic was Japan domestic market and sold as the E.S in other markets. Both are in excellant cosmetic condition Any info much appreciated. Alan

k100d · 03-21-2009, 09:16 PM

check ebay and KEH.com first

senator · 03-21-2009, 09:26 PM

Been looking on ebay. Never seen a Black ES2 for sale. KEH zero for sale

christinelandon · 03-21-2009, 09:43 PM

There was this one for sale here in the Marketplace: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographers-marketplace/42983-pentax-es...8-55-lens.html

**monochrome** · 03-21-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by senator

Been looking on ebay. Never seen a Black ES2 for sale. KEH zero for sale

Here are some history links (and a Black ESII for $75 active on eBay)

ESII on eBay

Honeywell Pentax ESII

Asahi Pentax ESII

Asahi Optical Historical Club Screwmount history table

"The Ultimate Pentax Screwmount Guide" for sale on Amazon.com

Mike Cash · 03-21-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by senator

Been looking on ebay. Never seen a Black ES2 for sale. KEH zero for sale

Try using the proper name.....ESII....instead of ES2.

senator · 03-21-2009, 11:32 PM

This is the electro spot

Steinback · 03-22-2009, 01:23 AM

@senator: The image you tried to post doesn't seem to be linked properly.

woof · 03-22-2009, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by senator

I believe the Electro Spotmatic was Japan domestic market and sold as the E.S in other markets.

Alan:

First, welcome to the forum!

The Electro Spotmatic was made for the Japanese home market only. I have seen dates of late 1971 to 1972 for manufacture whereas the ES was produced from the end of 1972 to 1973.

The Electro Spotmatic is one of the more "uncommon" Pentax cameras, and technically it was the forerunner (some say production prototype) of the Spotmatic ES. It was produced in small numbers.

The very early Electro-Spotmatics were prone to circuit board failures. Consequently, it is hard to find and Electro-Spotmatic that works in Auto mode. This was fixed relatively quickly and most of the ES's that benefited from this revision have the revised design and still work. This seems to have occurred in the 1972 timeframe.

Either way, the Pentax Electro Spotmatic was the first SLR camera with TTL aperture-priority.

This is a good read:

Asahi Pentax and Pentax SLR 35mm ... - Google Book Search

Hope this helps! We'd love to see pictures. I've personally been looking for an Electro Spotmatic in working condition for a long time. If you are selling, please let me know. Thanks.

woof!

séamuis · 03-22-2009, 07:14 AM

Im almost positive I saw an electro-spotmatic on the bay a few days ago. black body.

**monochrome** · 03-22-2009, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by séamuis

Im almost positive I saw an electro-spotmatic on the bay a few days ago. black body.

I believe I watched that body. If I didn't already have an F . . .

séamuis · 03-22-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

I believe I watched that body. If I didn't already have an F . . .

ah, so I did see an electro-spotmatic. already having a black ESII I paid it no attention, that and of course I cant afford it at the moment.:ugh: do you know the final selling price?

Nesster · 03-22-2009, 11:50 AM

Not that I was tracking these, mind you, only

curious in a historical sense...

1971 BLACK MODEL PENTAX ASAHI "ELECTRO SPOTMATIC" SLR - eBay (item 150332560285 end time Mar-20-09 16:00:00 PDT)

Pentax Electro Spotmatic ES With SMC Takumar 50mm F1.4 - eBay (item 110358397935 end time Mar-16-09 19:00:00 PDT)

RARE PENTAX ELECTRO SPOTMATIC ALL BLACK PRO FINISH - eBay (item 120385509467 end time Mar-11-09 02:46:33 PDT)

séamuis · 03-22-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Nesster

Not that I was tracking these, mind you, only

curious in a historical sense...

1971 BLACK MODEL PENTAX ASAHI "ELECTRO SPOTMATIC" SLR - eBay (item 150332560285 end time Mar-20-09 16:00:00 PDT)

Pentax Electro Spotmatic ES With SMC Takumar 50mm F1.4 - eBay (item 110358397935 end time Mar-16-09 19:00:00 PDT)

RARE PENTAX ELECTRO SPOTMATIC ALL BLACK PRO FINISH - eBay (item 120385509467 end time Mar-11-09 02:46:33 PDT)

I am extremely jealous of the first listing. I paid more than that for my ESII and all I got was the body! of course the last thing I need is another 55, but looking at the cosmetic condition of both lens and body as well as the inclusion of the 'ES' branded ever ready case (something I have been looking for) id say that was a steal. a serious steal.... man I'm sorry I missed that.

woof · 03-22-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by séamuis

I am extremely jealous of the first listing. I paid more than that for my ESII and all I got was the body! of course the last thing I need is another 55, but looking at the cosmetic condition of both lens and body as well as the inclusion of the 'ES' branded ever ready case (something I have been looking for) id say that was a steal. a serious steal.... man I'm sorry I missed that.

Séamuis: Look closer - "the automatic feature no longer works (most likely dried out)"

Heh. Dried out. That's a corker. Nope. Electronic gave out. Nothing surprising there

Second one: "Due to ... faulty auto-exposure the camera is sold as-is"

Third one: "PLEASE NOTE THAT CAMERA HAS NOT BEEN TESTED eg LIGHT METER,AUTO AND MANUAL SHUTTER SPEEDS ETC SO IT IS TO BE SOLD AS IS UNTESTED WITH NO RETURNS"

People will buy anything. I almost guarantee you that the auto does not work on that camera.

It really is rare to find electro spotamatics that are working.

woof!

03-21-2009, 09:15 PM	#1
senator Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Gisborne New Zealand Posts: 8	Electro Spotmatic (Black) and ES 2 (Black). Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. I own both these cameras and would be gratefull for any info on value and rarity. I believe the Electro Spotmatic was Japan domestic market and sold as the E.S in other markets. Both are in excellant cosmetic condition Any info much appreciated. Alan

03-21-2009, 09:44 PM	#5
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Spotmatic ESII Originally posted by senator Been looking on ebay. Never seen a Black ES2 for sale. KEH zero for sale Here are some history links (and a Black ESII for $75 active on eBay) ESII on eBay Honeywell Pentax ESII Asahi Pentax ESII Asahi Optical Historical Club Screwmount history table "The Ultimate Pentax Screwmount Guide" for sale on Amazon.com

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03-21-2009, 10:10 PM	#6
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by senator Been looking on ebay. Never seen a Black ES2 for sale. KEH zero for sale Try using the proper name.....ESII....instead of ES2.

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senator Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Gisborne New Zealand Posts: 8 Original Poster	This is the electro spot

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03-22-2009, 05:28 AM	#9
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Originally posted by senator I believe the Electro Spotmatic was Japan domestic market and sold as the E.S in other markets. Alan: First, welcome to the forum! The Electro Spotmatic was made for the Japanese home market only. I have seen dates of late 1971 to 1972 for manufacture whereas the ES was produced from the end of 1972 to 1973. The Electro Spotmatic is one of the more "uncommon" Pentax cameras, and technically it was the forerunner (some say production prototype) of the Spotmatic ES. It was produced in small numbers. The very early Electro-Spotmatics were prone to circuit board failures. Consequently, it is hard to find and Electro-Spotmatic that works in Auto mode. This was fixed relatively quickly and most of the ES's that benefited from this revision have the revised design and still work. This seems to have occurred in the 1972 timeframe. Either way, the Pentax Electro Spotmatic was the first SLR camera with TTL aperture-priority. This is a good read: Asahi Pentax and Pentax SLR 35mm ... - Google Book Search Hope this helps! We'd love to see pictures. I've personally been looking for an Electro Spotmatic in working condition for a long time. If you are selling, please let me know. Thanks. woof!

03-22-2009, 07:14 AM	#10
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Im almost positive I saw an electro-spotmatic on the bay a few days ago. black body.

03-22-2009, 10:34 AM	#11
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by séamuis Im almost positive I saw an electro-spotmatic on the bay a few days ago. black body. I believe I watched that body. If I didn't already have an F . . .

03-22-2009, 10:44 AM	#12
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by monochrome I believe I watched that body. If I didn't already have an F . . . ah, so I did see an electro-spotmatic. already having a black ESII I paid it no attention, that and of course I cant afford it at the moment.:ugh: do you know the final selling price?

03-22-2009, 11:50 AM	#13
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Not that I was tracking these, mind you, only curious in a historical sense... 1971 BLACK MODEL PENTAX ASAHI "ELECTRO SPOTMATIC" SLR - eBay (item 150332560285 end time Mar-20-09 16:00:00 PDT) Pentax Electro Spotmatic ES With SMC Takumar 50mm F1.4 - eBay (item 110358397935 end time Mar-16-09 19:00:00 PDT) RARE PENTAX ELECTRO SPOTMATIC ALL BLACK PRO FINISH - eBay (item 120385509467 end time Mar-11-09 02:46:33 PDT)

03-22-2009, 12:19 PM	#14
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Nesster Not that I was tracking these, mind you, only curious in a historical sense... 1971 BLACK MODEL PENTAX ASAHI "ELECTRO SPOTMATIC" SLR - eBay (item 150332560285 end time Mar-20-09 16:00:00 PDT) Pentax Electro Spotmatic ES With SMC Takumar 50mm F1.4 - eBay (item 110358397935 end time Mar-16-09 19:00:00 PDT) RARE PENTAX ELECTRO SPOTMATIC ALL BLACK PRO FINISH - eBay (item 120385509467 end time Mar-11-09 02:46:33 PDT) I am extremely jealous of the first listing. I paid more than that for my ESII and all I got was the body! of course the last thing I need is another 55, but looking at the cosmetic condition of both lens and body as well as the inclusion of the 'ES' branded ever ready case (something I have been looking for) id say that was a steal. a serious steal.... man I'm sorry I missed that.

03-22-2009, 02:53 PM	#15
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Originally posted by séamuis I am extremely jealous of the first listing. I paid more than that for my ESII and all I got was the body! of course the last thing I need is another 55, but looking at the cosmetic condition of both lens and body as well as the inclusion of the 'ES' branded ever ready case (something I have been looking for) id say that was a steal. a serious steal.... man I'm sorry I missed that. Séamuis: Look closer - "the automatic feature no longer works (most likely dried out)" Heh. Dried out. That's a corker. Nope. Electronic gave out. Nothing surprising there Second one: "Due to ... faulty auto-exposure the camera is sold as-is" Third one: "PLEASE NOTE THAT CAMERA HAS NOT BEEN TESTED eg LIGHT METER,AUTO AND MANUAL SHUTTER SPEEDS ETC SO IT IS TO BE SOLD AS IS UNTESTED WITH NO RETURNS" People will buy anything. I almost guarantee you that the auto does not work on that camera. It really is rare to find electro spotamatics that are working. woof!

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