Originally posted by RioRico I got the Promaster-badged version of the Tamron zoom a few weeks ago for US$7.50 shipped.
And here I thought I was getting away with a steal on that one.
Originally posted by RioRico I don't have that Sigma prime and haven't checked COMPLETED LISTINGS on eBay to see current sales prices, but that doesn't sound too out of line. It has a good reputation, and 28s of f/2 or faster are fairly desirable. You'll be able to put it to good use -- my most-used prime is a MF 28/2.!
I paid about $25 below the average, based on PF's lens database. I could have had it for $100, but I opened my big mouth because I didn't know its value while I was standing there, and I didn't want to pay too much for it. He checked the internet and found the very expensive modern version of the Sigma 28mm. He freely admitted that his is an older model, but he still added $25 to the price. I could have kicked myself.
Originally posted by RioRico As jimr-pdx said, a 28-xx zoom doesn't cover the same range as an 18-xx zoom, and that's an important gap. ... There's nothing wrong with a 28-80 but it's not a direct replacement for 18-55 -- the usual replacements are more like 17-50 or 16-45, and those are mostly f/2.8 zooms that cost quite a bit more.
You have both confirmed my own suspicions on the matter. I would like to get an 18-55-
ish lens that is better quality than the kit lens (I've occasionally read less-than-glowing comments about it), but I'm not into paying hundreds of dollars, like most people seem to be here at PF. If I was still taking meaningful, memorable pictures of people and places that I care about, I might be willing to spend that kind of money, but that isn't the case anymore (regrettably), so I don't want to spend a fortune just to take pictures of generic landscapes and other impersonal subject matter -- but I do want the quality and dynamic range of the K-5's images and some lenses that will do them a fair amount of justice without breaking the bank.
P.S. I also have six manual K-mount lenses (actually nine, but two are 135mm, and three are 50mm) that I am eager to use (for fun, of course). If the K-01 hadn't had a number of deficiencies (by my biased standards), I would have gladly bought it (in spite of its looks), due to its amazing focus peaking and much more versatile video mode. I desperately wish the K-5 had focus peaking and a better video mode.