Zeiss ZK updates?

ewalk · 09-02-2010, 11:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Shashinki

I heard that Zeiss and Voigtlander are discontinuing their lenses in K-mount.

If that's the case, I'd seriously contemplate switching brands. I was attracted to Pentax because of all the good primes available for the K-mount - both OEM and third party.

Shashinki · 09-02-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Blue

Source? Voigtlander just released the new version (SL II) of the 90mm Lanthar in PKA. It really doesn't make a lot of sense for them to not offer the mount given the registration distance of the Nikon and Pentax are very close. I guess they want to keep expanding Leitax's business.

There maybe some truth to that. Especially if you factor in the D FA WR.

I spoke with a person employed in a big Scandinavian company who are currently talking about taking over CZ lens distribution over here. If it is true or not, I don't know.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-02-2010, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by ewalk

If that's the case, I'd seriously contemplate switching brands. I was attracted to Pentax because of all the good primes available for the K-mount - both OEM and third party.

Wich lenses have you bought up to today? Or is it a support with closed wallet?

ewalk · 09-02-2010, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Wich lenses have you bought up to today? Or is it a support with closed wallet?

I ordered the 58mm f/1.4 just two days ago. I also bought the Sigma 30mm in the K-mount. Next on the list is/was the Zeiss 85mm. I have no problem putting my wallet where my mouth is. I have no issues spending money to support the sale and development of third party lenses - Pentax users need to show that the demand is there to justify the investment.

What's your point?

I'm not going to switch brands because of a different sized sensor. But if third party OEMs start dropping K mount support, it's not a good sign. There was talk that Tamron was going to halt development of new K-mount lenses.

Last edited by ewalk; 09-02-2010 at 05:46 PM. Reason: additional info

RonHendriks1966 · 09-03-2010, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by ewalk

What's your point?

That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens).

My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock.

Zav · 09-03-2010, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens).

My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock.

Zeiss in K mount are no special order. ZK Lenses are not uncommon and except for this 35 f1,4, every Zeiss lens available for Canon and Nikon is available for Pentax.

ewalk · 09-03-2010, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens).

I definitely understand - and I hope my reply didn't come across as too aggressive.

Quote:

My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock.

It's funny - I got my first hands-on use of the Voigtlander and Zeiss series for Pentax during the 2008 Photokina when I was living in Köln!!

khaki8 · 09-03-2010, 05:20 PM

All the Zeiss for Pentax lenses are being sold off. Check Ebay there are many sellers but Popflash has been appointed one of the dealers to sell them at about 25% off..nice saving...I've bought 2..the 35/2 and the 21/2.8 crazy nice...and large.

Blue · 09-03-2010, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens).

My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock.

The ZK lenses are available from BH and Adorama. I have news for you, most of the people posting in this thread have some substantial lenses & bodies so I can't imagine who you are referring to.

**interested_observer** · 09-03-2010, 07:27 PM

Well I have 4 Zeiss lenses on order. Regular and Polarized sets for the left and right eye. They are about the only ones able to grind my Rx. So I can afford them for my eyes, just not for my camera.

blende8 · 09-07-2010, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Regarding the mentioned "accessories": Perhaps split image screens?

No.

They will give us UV- and Polfilters and a strap.

Welcome to Carl Zeiss Camera Lenses

andi · 09-07-2010, 06:04 AM

So it seems not only there won't be any "Zeiss ZK updates", but they are really
being phased out. Sad, kind of shows how much confidence Zeiss have in Pentax...
If anyone wanted the new 35 f1.4 lens for Pentax - no luck.

falconeye · 09-07-2010, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by andi

Sad, kind of shows how much confidence Zeiss have in Pentax...

If the information is reliable at all ... then it is just a sign of sales volume, I'm pretty sure. I'll ask them at Photokina.

andi · 09-07-2010, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

I'll ask them at Photokina.

Please do. It would be great to get some direct info from Zeiss.

Can you also ask about the revised 25mm lens (also for Canon)?
It's been promised for years almost and pretty much a given right now
and suddenly no sign of it. They just released the updated electronic version
for Nikon, but this is still the old design, not as good as other Zeiss lenses.
The revised 25 supposed to match the quality of the amazing 21 (!).

blende8 · 09-08-2010, 02:33 AM

I have been told by Zeiss that they will decide in 2011 if the K version of the 35/1.4 will be produced.
They will "observe the market closely".

09-03-2010, 05:20 PM	#113
khaki8 Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: new york city Posts: 6	Zeiss Zk All the Zeiss for Pentax lenses are being sold off. Check Ebay there are many sellers but Popflash has been appointed one of the dealers to sell them at about 25% off..nice saving...I've bought 2..the 35/2 and the 21/2.8 crazy nice...and large.

09-03-2010, 06:33 PM	#114
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens). My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock. The ZK lenses are available from BH and Adorama. I have news for you, most of the people posting in this thread have some substantial lenses & bodies so I can't imagine who you are referring to. Last edited by Blue; 09-03-2010 at 07:51 PM.

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09-02-2010, 11:38 AM - 1 Like	#106
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by Shashinki I heard that Zeiss and Voigtlander are discontinuing their lenses in K-mount. If that's the case, I'd seriously contemplate switching brands. I was attracted to Pentax because of all the good primes available for the K-mount - both OEM and third party.

09-02-2010, 12:01 PM	#107
Shashinki Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 355	Originally posted by Blue Source? Voigtlander just released the new version (SL II) of the 90mm Lanthar in PKA. It really doesn't make a lot of sense for them to not offer the mount given the registration distance of the Nikon and Pentax are very close. I guess they want to keep expanding Leitax's business. There maybe some truth to that. Especially if you factor in the D FA WR. I spoke with a person employed in a big Scandinavian company who are currently talking about taking over CZ lens distribution over here. If it is true or not, I don't know.

09-02-2010, 01:01 PM	#108
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ewalk If that's the case, I'd seriously contemplate switching brands. I was attracted to Pentax because of all the good primes available for the K-mount - both OEM and third party. Wich lenses have you bought up to today? Or is it a support with closed wallet?

09-02-2010, 05:42 PM	#109
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Wich lenses have you bought up to today? Or is it a support with closed wallet? I ordered the 58mm f/1.4 just two days ago. I also bought the Sigma 30mm in the K-mount. Next on the list is/was the Zeiss 85mm. I have no problem putting my wallet where my mouth is. I have no issues spending money to support the sale and development of third party lenses - Pentax users need to show that the demand is there to justify the investment. What's your point? I'm not going to switch brands because of a different sized sensor. But if third party OEMs start dropping K mount support, it's not a good sign. There was talk that Tamron was going to halt development of new K-mount lenses. Last edited by ewalk; 09-02-2010 at 05:46 PM. Reason: additional info

09-03-2010, 02:07 AM	#110
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ewalk What's your point? That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens). My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock.

09-03-2010, 02:25 AM	#111
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens). My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock. Zeiss in K mount are no special order. ZK Lenses are not uncommon and except for this 35 f1,4, every Zeiss lens available for Canon and Nikon is available for Pentax.

09-03-2010, 04:04 AM	#112
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 That you are a great poster in the topic! I see a lot of complainers that want someting from Pentax camera (like a zillion things on a new camera while they still walk around with a K10D or older) or lenses (like 400-500mm prime in the DA* section while only owning a DA-L 50-200 lens). I definitely understand - and I hope my reply didn't come across as too aggressive. Quote: My guess to Zeiss is that the K-mount's are on special order because of the low demand. They have al the technics so it's not so hard to make them. In Germany in Aachen there is a shop where they have some of the Zeiss lenses for Pentax in stock. It's funny - I got my first hands-on use of the Voigtlander and Zeiss series for Pentax during the 2008 Photokina when I was living in Köln!!

09-03-2010, 07:27 PM	#115
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Well I have 4 Zeiss lenses on order. Regular and Polarized sets for the left and right eye. They are about the only ones able to grind my Rx. So I can afford them for my eyes, just not for my camera.

09-07-2010, 05:23 AM	#116
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by blende8 Regarding the mentioned "accessories": Perhaps split image screens? No. They will give us UV- and Polfilters and a strap. Welcome to Carl Zeiss Camera Lenses

09-07-2010, 06:04 AM	#117
andi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Original Poster	So it seems not only there won't be any "Zeiss ZK updates", but they are really being phased out. Sad, kind of shows how much confidence Zeiss have in Pentax... If anyone wanted the new 35 f1.4 lens for Pentax - no luck.

09-07-2010, 06:24 AM	#118
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by andi Sad, kind of shows how much confidence Zeiss have in Pentax... If the information is reliable at all ... then it is just a sign of sales volume, I'm pretty sure. I'll ask them at Photokina.

09-07-2010, 06:51 AM	#119
andi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Original Poster	Originally posted by falconeye I'll ask them at Photokina. Please do. It would be great to get some direct info from Zeiss. Can you also ask about the revised 25mm lens (also for Canon)? It's been promised for years almost and pretty much a given right now and suddenly no sign of it. They just released the updated electronic version for Nikon, but this is still the old design, not as good as other Zeiss lenses. The revised 25 supposed to match the quality of the amazing 21 (!).

09-08-2010, 02:33 AM	#120
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	I have been told by Zeiss that they will decide in 2011 if the K version of the 35/1.4 will be produced. They will "observe the market closely".