Pentax K-5 Officially Announced

gawan · 10-12-2010, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

My prediction of $1399 US street price is looking ever more likely.

Yes, and thinking of historical real prices it could well be even less

But in the case of K-5 competition might dictate the actual price. We have here quite similar prices for both D7000 and K-5..

Rite · 10-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by gawan

No! You forgot to exclude the VAT and import duties!

EDIT: I just found out that importing just one camera body (+ max one lens with it) does not require import duty, just the VAT, so the doller price would actually be like this:

1289 € (incl. VAT) / 1.23 * 1.3854 = ca. $1420 (excl. taxes)

For every additional lens we would have pay a 6.7% duty.

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1289€ / $1,420 would be a much more realistic intro price.

Thanks

Rite · 10-12-2010, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by gawan

Yes, and thinking of historical real prices it could well be even less

But in the case of K-5 competition might dictate the actual price. We have here quite similar prices for both D7000 and K-5..

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Branding is problematic when pricing the K5 compared to the D7000. IF Pentax wants to compete head-to-head, it can't price the K5 more than the D7000, IMO.

Nikon just has too much market influence. Pentax can overcome that with competitive pricing and market penetration.

janneman · 10-14-2010, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Rite

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Branding is problematic when pricing the K5 compared to the D7000. IF Pentax wants to compete head-to-head, it can't price the K5 more than the D7000, IMO.

Nikon just has too much market influence. Pentax can overcome that with competitive pricing and market penetration.

To penetrate the market Pentax must do something.... Competitive pricing hasn't done much in the past, or so it seems...

Rite · 10-14-2010, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by janneman

To penetrate the market Pentax must do something.... Competitive pricing hasn't done much in the past, or so it seems...

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The K5 IS an excellent product. It has great features, and the weather resistance one is second-to-none.

But how many potential camera buyers will be swayed to purchase a camera costing several hundred more for weather resistance?

This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO.

It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them.

janneman · 10-14-2010, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Rite

This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO.

It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them.

Make it more expensive than it is and call it "exclusive".... Contrary to popular belief and the current economic situation, that will sell a lot, maybe not really as much as "cheap"but with far more profit overall.

falconeye · 10-14-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Rite

This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression

The world market does fine.

dopeytree · 10-14-2010, 01:16 PM

Has anyone specifically asked a pentax employee about the possibility of turning off sdm and using screwdrive instead?

I don't really understand the improvements to autofocus if my most expensive lens can't make use of the improvements...

melander · 10-14-2010, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Rite

=====================================

The K5 IS an excellent product. It has great features, and the weather resistance one is second-to-none.

But how many potential camera buyers will be swayed to purchase a camera costing several hundred more for weather resistance?

This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO.

It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them.

Depression and high prices in america dosent mean that we got a problem in our economy. The world is not USA

deadwolfbones · 10-14-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by melander

Depression and high prices in america dosent mean that we got a problem in our economy. The world is not USA

There's also quite a lot of trouble in the European economy, to be fair—PIGS and all that, plus Hungary.

melander · 10-14-2010, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

There's also quite a lot of trouble in the European economy, to be fair—PIGS and all that, plus Hungary.

Difference is, these countries are doing things to get there economy on track, what are FED doing? Printing more money...

Rite · 10-14-2010, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Pentax K-7 | MZ-5n | Super Program | MX | Nikon D700

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The acceptance (and success) of the K5 really does come down to how well it is received in the United States, at least for us Americans.

I see you have feet in both camps with the K-7 and D700.

If the K5 is more than $200 than the D7000, which way would you lean if you decided to upgrade from the K-7?

deadwolfbones · 10-14-2010, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Rite

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The acceptance (and success) of the K5 really does come down to how well it is received in the United States, at least for us Americans.

I see you have feet in both camps with the K-7 and D700.

If the K5 is more than $200 than the D7000, which way would you lean if you decided to upgrade from the K-7?

K-5's already on the way.

Rite · 10-14-2010, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

K-5's already on the way.

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OK. I am not going to be an early tester, but would appreciate a few pings as you get your first impressions.

Are you keeping your K-7?

deadwolfbones · 10-14-2010, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Rite

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OK. I am not going to be an early tester, but would appreciate a few pings as you get your first impressions.

Are you keeping your K-7?

Depends on how well I like the K-5, but based on the spec sheet I see no reason to keep it with the K-5 in the stable.

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10-12-2010, 09:57 AM	#466
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400	Originally posted by deadwolfbones My prediction of $1399 US street price is looking ever more likely. Yes, and thinking of historical real prices it could well be even less But in the case of K-5 competition might dictate the actual price. We have here quite similar prices for both D7000 and K-5..

10-12-2010, 10:07 AM	#467
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by gawan No! You forgot to exclude the VAT and import duties! EDIT: I just found out that importing just one camera body (+ max one lens with it) does not require import duty, just the VAT, so the doller price would actually be like this: *1289 € (incl. VAT) / 1.23 1.3854 = ca. $1420 (excl. taxes)** For every additional lens we would have pay a 6.7% duty. =============================== 1289€ / $1,420 would be a much more realistic intro price. Thanks

10-12-2010, 10:10 AM	#468
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by gawan Yes, and thinking of historical real prices it could well be even less But in the case of K-5 competition might dictate the actual price. We have here quite similar prices for both D7000 and K-5.. =================================== Branding is problematic when pricing the K5 compared to the D7000. IF Pentax wants to compete head-to-head, it can't price the K5 more than the D7000, IMO. Nikon just has too much market influence. Pentax can overcome that with competitive pricing and market penetration.

10-14-2010, 01:40 AM	#469
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Rite =================================== Branding is problematic when pricing the K5 compared to the D7000. IF Pentax wants to compete head-to-head, it can't price the K5 more than the D7000, IMO. Nikon just has too much market influence. Pentax can overcome that with competitive pricing and market penetration. To penetrate the market Pentax must do something.... Competitive pricing hasn't done much in the past, or so it seems...

10-14-2010, 03:36 AM	#470
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by janneman To penetrate the market Pentax must do something.... Competitive pricing hasn't done much in the past, or so it seems... ===================================== The K5 IS an excellent product. It has great features, and the weather resistance one is second-to-none. But how many potential camera buyers will be swayed to purchase a camera costing several hundred more for weather resistance? This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO. It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them.

10-14-2010, 09:12 AM	#471
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Rite This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO. It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them. Make it more expensive than it is and call it "exclusive".... Contrary to popular belief and the current economic situation, that will sell a lot, maybe not really as much as "cheap"but with far more profit overall.

10-14-2010, 11:45 AM	#472
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Rite This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression The world market does fine.

10-14-2010, 01:16 PM	#473
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	Has anyone specifically asked a pentax employee about the possibility of turning off sdm and using screwdrive instead? I don't really understand the improvements to autofocus if my most expensive lens can't make use of the improvements...

10-14-2010, 01:24 PM	#474
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	Originally posted by Rite ===================================== The K5 IS an excellent product. It has great features, and the weather resistance one is second-to-none. But how many potential camera buyers will be swayed to purchase a camera costing several hundred more for weather resistance? This is the toughest world market since the Great Depression, and the $100~$250 (depending on the market) Pentax will charge for the K5 over it's direct competition (we know who that is) is enough to sink the K5, IMO. It comes down to keeping your doors open, or closing them. Depression and high prices in america dosent mean that we got a problem in our economy. The world is not USA

10-14-2010, 02:02 PM	#475
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by melander Depression and high prices in america dosent mean that we got a problem in our economy. The world is not USA There's also quite a lot of trouble in the European economy, to be fair—PIGS and all that, plus Hungary.

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10-14-2010, 02:12 PM	#476
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	Originally posted by deadwolfbones There's also quite a lot of trouble in the European economy, to be fair—PIGS and all that, plus Hungary. Difference is, these countries are doing things to get there economy on track, what are FED doing? Printing more money...

10-14-2010, 11:07 PM	#477
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Pentax K-7 \| MZ-5n \| Super Program \| MX \| Nikon D700 ================================== The acceptance (and success) of the K5 really does come down to how well it is received in the United States, at least for us Americans. I see you have feet in both camps with the K-7 and D700. If the K5 is more than $200 than the D7000, which way would you lean if you decided to upgrade from the K-7?

10-14-2010, 11:17 PM	#478
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Rite ================================== The acceptance (and success) of the K5 really does come down to how well it is received in the United States, at least for us Americans. I see you have feet in both camps with the K-7 and D700. If the K5 is more than $200 than the D7000, which way would you lean if you decided to upgrade from the K-7? K-5's already on the way.

10-14-2010, 11:23 PM	#479
Rite Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 337	Originally posted by deadwolfbones K-5's already on the way. =============================== OK. I am not going to be an early tester, but would appreciate a few pings as you get your first impressions. Are you keeping your K-7?

10-14-2010, 11:37 PM	#480
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Rite =============================== OK. I am not going to be an early tester, but would appreciate a few pings as you get your first impressions. Are you keeping your K-7? Depends on how well I like the K-5, but based on the spec sheet I see no reason to keep it with the K-5 in the stable.