K-3 pictures: front, side and back (aka it definitely is a headphone jack)

Vylen · 10-07-2013, 04:31 AM

Might be a good idea to point people to https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238970-so-anyone-posted-yet.html .... or we might end up having even more parallel discussions... geez things are going to get crazy around here!

audiobomber · 10-07-2013, 05:09 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Vylen

Might be a good idea to point people to https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238970-so-anyone-posted-yet.html .... or we might end up having even more parallel discussions

I hate thread titles that give no indication of what they're about.

VoiceOfReason · 10-07-2013, 05:39 AM

Surprised they took ISO 80 away.

Steve.Ledger · 10-07-2013, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

Surprised they took ISO 80 away.

Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80?

TenZ.NL · 10-07-2013, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80?

K5 and upward.

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

Surprised they took ISO 80 away.

I don`t think the specs are complete, there are a lot of comma`s in the specs if you look closely.

Class A · 10-07-2013, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80?

K-5, K-5 II, K-5 IIs.

Their ISO 80 helped them trump the competition in DxOMark tests.

VoiceOfReason · 10-07-2013, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80?

The K5

I was hoping for ISO 50 maybe.

Last edited by VoiceOfReason; 10-07-2013 at 06:15 AM.

Steve.Ledger · 10-07-2013, 06:21 AM

OK, thanks.. Obviously you must be right as you have a K-5. But I did check dpr before I posted the question and found that their published specs don't support this, they list 100 ISO as the lowest for the K5 range.

D1N0 · 10-07-2013, 06:37 AM

Probably has something to do with smaller pixels due to 24mp. The K-5 has 80-51200 in expanded mode.

VoiceOfReason · 10-07-2013, 06:38 AM

Digital SLR Cameras - DSLR Cameras - RICOH Cameras

That shows the ISO 80-51,200 on the site itself. I do hope things are updated giving lower ISO.

cream · 10-07-2013, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by sledger

OK, thanks.. Obviously you must be right as you have a K-5. But I did check dpr before I posted the question and found that their published specs don't support this, they list 100 ISO as the lowest for the K5 range.

the ISO 80 and ISO above 12800 are called "extended" but they are available in every mode. You have to enable them from the menu. Just turn the option on and it is enabled. Maybe some sites list 100-12800 because they think some ISO are not available in every mode or somehow restricted. They are. Not restricted.

Steve.Ledger · 10-07-2013, 07:08 AM

Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all

('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating).

cream · 10-07-2013, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all

('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating).

I am not sure... I think the iso 80 is not native but "stepped down" from ISO 100... but i think ISO 51200 is native to k-5... but i am not sure. please ask someone who knows about this... ^^

Ishpuini · 10-07-2013, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by sledger

Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all

('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating).

It's hard to tell, but the general consensus seems to be that ISO80 does have a slightly larger DR than ISO100 on the K-5's sensor. So it's not really trickery to enable slightly longer exposures. I for one always have my K-5 on ISO80 per default.

Wim

Steve.Ledger · 10-07-2013, 07:19 AM

Found an article which explains it better than I can

► ISO: Native Vs Extended | Roberts Raw! Camera News, Advice, And Learning

10-07-2013, 06:21 AM	#548
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	OK, thanks.. Obviously you must be right as you have a K-5. But I did check dpr before I posted the question and found that their published specs don't support this, they list 100 ISO as the lowest for the K5 range. Last edited by Steve.Ledger; 10-25-2013 at 06:31 AM.

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10-07-2013, 04:31 AM	#541
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Might be a good idea to point people to https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238970-so-anyone-posted-yet.html .... or we might end up having even more parallel discussions... geez things are going to get crazy around here!

10-07-2013, 05:09 AM - 2 Likes	#542
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Vylen Might be a good idea to point people to https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238970-so-anyone-posted-yet.html .... or we might end up having even more parallel discussions I hate thread titles that give no indication of what they're about.

10-07-2013, 05:39 AM	#543
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	Surprised they took ISO 80 away.

10-07-2013, 05:44 AM	#544
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason Surprised they took ISO 80 away. Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80?

10-07-2013, 05:47 AM	#545
TenZ.NL Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Below sealevel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,100	Originally posted by sledger Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80? K5 and upward. Originally posted by VoiceOfReason Surprised they took ISO 80 away. I don`t think the specs are complete, there are a lot of comma`s in the specs if you look closely.

10-07-2013, 05:47 AM	#546
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by sledger Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80? K-5, K-5 II, K-5 IIs. Their ISO 80 helped them trump the competition in DxOMark tests.

10-07-2013, 06:08 AM	#547
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	Originally posted by sledger Which Pentax dSLR has ISO 80? The K5 I was hoping for ISO 50 maybe. Last edited by VoiceOfReason; 10-07-2013 at 06:15 AM.

10-07-2013, 06:37 AM	#549
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Probably has something to do with smaller pixels due to 24mp. The K-5 has 80-51200 in expanded mode.

10-07-2013, 06:38 AM	#550
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	Digital SLR Cameras - DSLR Cameras - RICOH Cameras That shows the ISO 80-51,200 on the site itself. I do hope things are updated giving lower ISO.

10-07-2013, 06:44 AM	#551
cream Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 91	Originally posted by sledger OK, thanks.. Obviously you must be right as you have a K-5. But I did check dpr before I posted the question and found that their published specs don't support this, they list 100 ISO as the lowest for the K5 range. the ISO 80 and ISO above 12800 are called "extended" but they are available in every mode. You have to enable them from the menu. Just turn the option on and it is enabled. Maybe some sites list 100-12800 because they think some ISO are not available in every mode or somehow restricted. They are. Not restricted.

10-07-2013, 07:08 AM	#552
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all ('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating).

10-07-2013, 07:11 AM	#553
cream Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 91	Originally posted by sledger Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all ('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating). I am not sure... I think the iso 80 is not native but "stepped down" from ISO 100... but i think ISO 51200 is native to k-5... but i am not sure. please ask someone who knows about this... ^^

10-07-2013, 07:14 AM	#554
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by sledger Right, so you're talking about 'pull ISO' which is in camera trickery, not real native ISO at all ('Push ISO' is extended ISO above the maximum native rating). It's hard to tell, but the general consensus seems to be that ISO80 does have a slightly larger DR than ISO100 on the K-5's sensor. So it's not really trickery to enable slightly longer exposures. I for one always have my K-5 on ISO80 per default. Wim

10-07-2013, 07:19 AM	#555
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	Found an article which explains it better than I can ► ISO: Native Vs Extended \| Roberts Raw! Camera News, Advice, And Learning