Sigma 85mm 1.4, A game changer???

yeatzee · 03-28-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

send me the other one.

sorry, they are on 50mm duty..... and I have a lot of 50mm's

GeneV · 03-28-2011, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by hoanpham

$300 ?? Can't be. There are several buy-it-now on ebay
- takumar 85 f1.9 for approx $300
- M85 $245

That one M85 is much lower than anything I've seen lately, and I was tempted when I saw it. They are usually over $300 as BIN. You can check out Buy & Sell New & Used Cameras ? Canon, Nikon, Hasselblad, Leica & More - KEH.com if you don't believe me about their price.

outsider · 03-28-2011, 04:24 PM

I've been reading a lot about this Sigma 85mm and from what i've seen, i'm pretty damn impressed. I've never really favored Sigmas for many reasons, but there's too much to like about this lens. By accident I found this review of the Sigma 85mm 1.4. It's quite a revelation. Extensive testing of the sigma on full frame AND aps-c, compared to the canon 85 1.2 and nikon 85 1.4 G. Sigma bests or equals BOTH in several areas. These guys are european and the english is a little off at times, but still clear. From this hard, cold data, it would seem that the Sigma may have stirred things up a bit...

Sigma 85 mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM review - Introduction - Lenstip.com

yeatzee · 03-28-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

That one M85 is much lower than anything I've seen lately, and I was tempted when I saw it. They are usually over $300 as BIN. You can check out Buy & Sell New & Used Cameras ? Canon, Nikon, Hasselblad, Leica & More - KEH.com if you don't believe me about their price.

I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced

eddie1960 · 03-28-2011, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced

Bronica MC40 f4.0 - $30
MC150 f3.5 $50

rated bargain, but anywhere else they would have been exc-

I love KEH, just shop the BGN grade
Exc with them may as well be new

yeatzee · 03-28-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

Bronica MC40 f4.0 - $30
MC150 f3.5 $50

rated bargain, but anywhere else they would have been exc-

I love KEH, just shop the BGN grade
Exc with them may as well be new

never heard of either of those examples

Im a pentax man

eddie1960 · 03-28-2011, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

never heard of either of those examples

Im a pentax man

so am i for my 35, but on MF the bronica is more compact and has interchangeable backs as well as some pretty damn good glass, it was a staple of wedding guys for years

Pentaxor · 03-28-2011, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced

it's KEH, not eBAY.

eddie1960 · 03-29-2011, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

it's KEH, not eBAY.

yep which gives you a damn good chance of it being in better shape than described as opposed to the other way round

GeneV · 03-29-2011, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by yeatzee

I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced

Funny, I see KEH prices as being about average compared to Ebay. You may snag something at auction for less, but I've also seen half the BIN at any given time be higher than KEH.

yeatzee · 03-29-2011, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

Funny, I see KEH prices as being about average compared to Ebay. You may snag something at auction for less, but I've also seen half the BIN at any given time be higher than KEH.

Where am I when this stuff happens than?

eddie1960 · 03-29-2011, 12:28 PM

Like i said Yeatzee the trick to KEH is the Bargain and one level up, they are very conservative in the rating of a lens. my $50 150 for the Bronica the focus grip was slipping. took me about 3 minutes to repair it
the 40mm had a small ding in the filter ring, same thing fixed in minutes. a little brassing on the 40 but no issues. anything that has seen use and is not close to perfect will likely end up bargain. most items i've seen off ebay people call excellent, minty etc would in reality be bargain at keh
you can get better deals on a no reserve auction that doesn't get bidders without a doubt, but i've seen lots of stuff sell well above keh prices YMMV of course. when i am looking though I am always certain to check KEH regularly (their stuff turns over pretty quickly in some categories)

Pentaxor · 03-29-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

Where am I when this stuff happens than?

while you were sleeping.

Class A · 03-31-2011, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by Adam

We'll be doing a side-by-side comparison of the sigma and FA* 85 within a month or so- hopefully the sigma will set a new standard!

Can't wait to read the comparison.
Can you throw in an FA 77/1.8 as well?

Originally posted by yyyzzz

Samyang wins for overall value, for f1.4, and for people can live with MF. K85 wins for me as a K collector, as a portrait shooter and as someone who likes to shoot f1.8 (can function as aperture priority at f1.8). FA77 wins for the rest.

Thanks for this. Any chance you could post comparison pics?

hoanpham · 03-31-2011, 05:58 AM

And if it's not so much more work, please throw in the K85f1.8 and perhaps the M85f2 as well.
All tests/samples in one place.

03-28-2011, 04:24 PM	#123
outsider Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 416 Original Poster	A promising review of the Sigma 85mm 1.4 I've been reading a lot about this Sigma 85mm and from what i've seen, i'm pretty damn impressed. I've never really favored Sigmas for many reasons, but there's too much to like about this lens. By accident I found this review of the Sigma 85mm 1.4. It's quite a revelation. Extensive testing of the sigma on full frame AND aps-c, compared to the canon 85 1.2 and nikon 85 1.4 G. Sigma bests or equals BOTH in several areas. These guys are european and the english is a little off at times, but still clear. From this hard, cold data, it would seem that the Sigma may have stirred things up a bit... Sigma 85 mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM review - Introduction - Lenstip.com

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03-28-2011, 03:35 PM	#121
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by Pentaxor send me the other one. sorry, they are on 50mm duty..... and I have a lot of 50mm's

03-28-2011, 03:53 PM	#122
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by hoanpham $300 ?? Can't be. There are several buy-it-now on ebay - takumar 85 f1.9 for approx $300 - M85 $245 That one M85 is much lower than anything I've seen lately, and I was tempted when I saw it. They are usually over $300 as BIN. You can check out Buy & Sell New & Used Cameras ? Canon, Nikon, Hasselblad, Leica & More - KEH.com if you don't believe me about their price.

03-28-2011, 06:04 PM	#124
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by GeneV That one M85 is much lower than anything I've seen lately, and I was tempted when I saw it. They are usually over $300 as BIN. You can check out Buy & Sell New & Used Cameras ? Canon, Nikon, Hasselblad, Leica & More - KEH.com if you don't believe me about their price. I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced

03-28-2011, 06:08 PM	#125
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by yeatzee I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced Bronica MC40 f4.0 - $30 MC150 f3.5 $50 rated bargain, but anywhere else they would have been exc- I love KEH, just shop the BGN grade Exc with them may as well be new

03-28-2011, 06:12 PM	#126
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 Bronica MC40 f4.0 - $30 MC150 f3.5 $50 rated bargain, but anywhere else they would have been exc- I love KEH, just shop the BGN grade Exc with them may as well be new never heard of either of those examples Im a pentax man

03-28-2011, 06:41 PM	#127
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by yeatzee never heard of either of those examples Im a pentax man so am i for my 35, but on MF the bronica is more compact and has interchangeable backs as well as some pretty damn good glass, it was a staple of wedding guys for years

03-28-2011, 11:12 PM	#128
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by yeatzee I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced it's KEH, not eBAY.

03-29-2011, 05:40 AM	#129
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Pentaxor it's KEH, not eBAY. yep which gives you a damn good chance of it being in better shape than described as opposed to the other way round

03-29-2011, 11:57 AM	#130
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by yeatzee I've yet to see an example where KEH wasn't vastly overpriced Funny, I see KEH prices as being about average compared to Ebay. You may snag something at auction for less, but I've also seen half the BIN at any given time be higher than KEH.

03-29-2011, 12:17 PM	#131
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by GeneV Funny, I see KEH prices as being about average compared to Ebay. You may snag something at auction for less, but I've also seen half the BIN at any given time be higher than KEH. Where am I when this stuff happens than?

03-29-2011, 12:28 PM	#132
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Like i said Yeatzee the trick to KEH is the Bargain and one level up, they are very conservative in the rating of a lens. my $50 150 for the Bronica the focus grip was slipping. took me about 3 minutes to repair it the 40mm had a small ding in the filter ring, same thing fixed in minutes. a little brassing on the 40 but no issues. anything that has seen use and is not close to perfect will likely end up bargain. most items i've seen off ebay people call excellent, minty etc would in reality be bargain at keh you can get better deals on a no reserve auction that doesn't get bidders without a doubt, but i've seen lots of stuff sell well above keh prices YMMV of course. when i am looking though I am always certain to check KEH regularly (their stuff turns over pretty quickly in some categories)

03-29-2011, 12:38 PM	#133
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by yeatzee Where am I when this stuff happens than? while you were sleeping.

03-31-2011, 05:26 AM	#134
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Adam We'll be doing a side-by-side comparison of the sigma and FA* 85 within a month or so- hopefully the sigma will set a new standard! Can't wait to read the comparison. Can you throw in an FA 77/1.8 as well? Originally posted by yyyzzz Samyang wins for overall value, for f1.4, and for people can live with MF. K85 wins for me as a K collector, as a portrait shooter and as someone who likes to shoot f1.8 (can function as aperture priority at f1.8). FA77 wins for the rest. Thanks for this. Any chance you could post comparison pics?

03-31-2011, 05:58 AM	#135
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	And if it's not so much more work, please throw in the K85f1.8 and perhaps the M85f2 as well. All tests/samples in one place.