50-135mm SDM Motor dies

egordon99 · 01-30-2008, 02:55 PM

So I go put my beloved 50-135mm on my K10D to go out and take some shots of my doggie in the backyard. I go outside, half-press the shutter button, whhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
What is that? Oh, the freakin' screw-drive focus

If that isn't bad enough, my K10D can't lock focus outside in good light, it just whirls back and forth. You can sorta hear the SDM motor try to start up, but it seems like the camera senses this failure and kicks off the screw drive.
Ughhhhhhh......

I've cleaned the contacts, verified I am still using V1.3 of the firmware, the M/A switch on the lens does work as it puts the body into manual focus so I'm not sure if it's the contacts. Last thing I'm going to try is a freshly charged battery (in the charger now)

At least I bought it at a nice local camera shop, so I'm going to bring it there tommorow along with my body; that way I can rule out the body by trying another DA* lens in the shop (maybe I'll give the 16-50mm a try?) If it does have to go back to Pentax, I hope they get it back to me quickly; maybe the shop will give me a loaner

Any other "Death of SDM" stories out there? Any words to console me? At least it's a somewhat slow time for photography for me; thank god it didn't happen during the holidays last month!

Gooshin · 01-30-2008, 02:57 PM

my power zoom 28-105 fell off a table one time and i got a focal length of something like 16mm ... never was the same after that....

egordon99 · 01-30-2008, 02:59 PM

That's what was reported (16mm), or that was the FOV you got? If the latter, that's not too bad

No dropped my 50-135mm, I used it last week, and then took it off and stuck it in my Lowepro backpack where it rested until this afternoon.

Gooshin · 01-30-2008, 03:04 PM

basicaly what happened when it fell is the zooming mechanism got stuck at some magical focal length below the minimum of 28

in fact the number slider bar (which is hidden beneath a plastic window on all the typical "plastic fantastic" FA lenses) turned into a line with a big black DOT on the end...

i ended up taking the stupid thing apart

i lost 1 screw and 2 copper cylinders for the contacts, but i put it all back together

i got the thing zooming through brute force, it made the most horrible grinding noises ever, then i realized i got some dust specs in one of the lens elements, so i just gave up and shoved it into the back of my shelf

maybe one day i'll build something cool out of it...

egordon99 · 01-30-2008, 05:50 PM

Well I'm not as bummed now because of the Sigma announcement......

Tbear · 01-30-2008, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by egordon99

So I go put my beloved 50-135mm on my K10D to go out and take some shots of my doggie in the backyard. I go outside, half-press the shutter button, whhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
What is that? Oh, the freakin' screw-drive focus

If that isn't bad enough, my K10D can't lock focus outside in good light, it just whirls back and forth. You can sorta hear the SDM motor try to start up, but it seems like the camera senses this failure and kicks off the screw drive.
Ughhhhhhh......

I've cleaned the contacts, verified I am still using V1.3 of the firmware, the M/A switch on the lens does work as it puts the body into manual focus so I'm not sure if it's the contacts. Last thing I'm going to try is a freshly charged battery (in the charger now)

At least I bought it at a nice local camera shop, so I'm going to bring it there tommorow along with my body; that way I can rule out the body by trying another DA* lens in the shop (maybe I'll give the 16-50mm a try?) If it does have to go back to Pentax, I hope they get it back to me quickly; maybe the shop will give me a loaner

Any other "Death of SDM" stories out there? Any words to console me? At least it's a somewhat slow time for photography for me; thank god it didn't happen during the holidays last month!

Sorry to hear about your troubles with the SDM. Hopefully, this is not the beginning of a trend, based on cheap internal plastic parts that wear out prematurely.

Ted

nicholashan · 01-30-2008, 09:36 PM

Ya Ha......... your are right, plastic combine with high speed motor, the life cycle maybe become a big concern. ^_^
don't know penatx has this kind of test report or MTBF information or not. ^_^

christinelandon · 01-31-2008, 07:00 AM

Here's hoping for the best, egordon. So far, mine's been a sweetie, and I haven't heard of other 50-135 owners with the problem you've encountered.

little laker · 01-31-2008, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Tbear

Sorry to hear about your troubles with the SDM. Hopefully, this is not the beginning of a trend, based on cheap internal plastic parts that wear out prematurely.

Ted

I sort of disagree with you here Ted,

If Pentax has a serious QC problem with these lenses I'd like to see the problems fixed before they pump too many out.

It'll either cost them a couple million now, or big time later

Tbear · 01-31-2008, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by little laker

I sort of disagree with you here Ted,

If Pentax has a serious QC problem with these lenses I'd like to see the problems fixed before they pump too many out.

It'll either cost them a couple million now, or big time later

Stu, where did I say or imply that Pentax should pump out a bunch of garbage before fixing the QC problems?

Ted

little laker · 01-31-2008, 08:45 AM

I guess that you didn't, I've just seen too many companies continue to pump out garbage apparently thinking that no-one would find the problem. Or they could fix it at a later date.
I've lost faith in some of these companies, and refuse to give them any more of my $

If there's going to be a string of problems I'd sure like to see them happen now. And hopefully see Pentax do the right thing.

I'm actually surprised at their problems with these lenses. They know how to build a lens that'll last, and they should stick with that practice. Especially when they're their more or less top $ lenses.

Tbear · 01-31-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by little laker

I guess that you didn't, I've just seen too many companies continue to pump out garbage apparently thinking that no-one would find the problem. Or they could fix it at a later date.
I've lost faith in some of these companies, and refuse to give them any more of my $

If there's going to be a string of problems I'd sure like to see them happen now. And hopefully see Pentax do the right thing.

I'm actually surprised at their problems with these lenses. They know how to build a lens that'll last, and they should stick with that practice. Especially when they're their more or less top $ lenses.

I couldn't agree more with you, Stu.

Ted

egordon99 · 01-31-2008, 10:14 AM

Well I thought I'd come back and update everyone.....First off, it seems to be the body

(I wished it was the lens) that is busted. I went to the camera store, and we put the lens on a K100D Super, and it focused fast and silent. We also put it on another K10D (after upgrading it to 1.3) and it was fine. We tried cleaning the contacts on my body mount, as well as re-install 1.3, no dice. Not only does it use the screw drive, but it also has lot of problems locking focus/hunting.

So back to Pentax my K10D goes......I tried out a used D200 they had ($999) and man that thing was blazingly fast (they put a 24-120mm VR SWM on it), so I'm going to seriously look inside my soul and (yikes, please forgive me) consider switching to Nikon, as much as I LOVE the optics of my Pentax kit, for the type of work I'm getting into (weddings/events) it seems like the Nikon would be much better.

Thanks for all your kind thoughts during my moment of crisis.....

blende8 · 01-31-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by egordon99

it seems like the Nikon would be much better.

Put the emphasis on "it seems".
I work with the D200 a lot and I can assure you that in practice it is not any better.
The only thing I like on the D200 and which I love to get implemented into the K10D or a later model is that you can set the shutter time at which Auto-ISO jumps.

01-30-2008, 02:55 PM	#1
egordon99 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Outside of Philly Posts: 1,561	50-135mm SDM Motor dies So I go put my beloved 50-135mm on my K10D to go out and take some shots of my doggie in the backyard. I go outside, half-press the shutter button, whhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr What is that? Oh, the freakin' screw-drive focus If that isn't bad enough, my K10D can't lock focus outside in good light, it just whirls back and forth. You can sorta hear the SDM motor try to start up, but it seems like the camera senses this failure and kicks off the screw drive. Ughhhhhhh...... I've cleaned the contacts, verified I am still using V1.3 of the firmware, the M/A switch on the lens does work as it puts the body into manual focus so I'm not sure if it's the contacts. Last thing I'm going to try is a freshly charged battery (in the charger now) At least I bought it at a nice local camera shop, so I'm going to bring it there tommorow along with my body; that way I can rule out the body by trying another DA* lens in the shop (maybe I'll give the 16-50mm a try?) If it does have to go back to Pentax, I hope they get it back to me quickly; maybe the shop will give me a loaner Any other "Death of SDM" stories out there? Any words to console me? At least it's a somewhat slow time for photography for me; thank god it didn't happen during the holidays last month!

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01-30-2008, 02:57 PM	#2
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	my power zoom 28-105 fell off a table one time and i got a focal length of something like 16mm ... never was the same after that....

01-30-2008, 02:59 PM	#3
egordon99 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Outside of Philly Posts: 1,561 Original Poster	That's what was reported (16mm), or that was the FOV you got? If the latter, that's not too bad No dropped my 50-135mm, I used it last week, and then took it off and stuck it in my Lowepro backpack where it rested until this afternoon.

01-30-2008, 03:04 PM	#4
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	basicaly what happened when it fell is the zooming mechanism got stuck at some magical focal length below the minimum of 28 in fact the number slider bar (which is hidden beneath a plastic window on all the typical "plastic fantastic" FA lenses) turned into a line with a big black DOT on the end... i ended up taking the stupid thing apart i lost 1 screw and 2 copper cylinders for the contacts, but i put it all back together i got the thing zooming through brute force, it made the most horrible grinding noises ever, then i realized i got some dust specs in one of the lens elements, so i just gave up and shoved it into the back of my shelf maybe one day i'll build something cool out of it...

01-30-2008, 05:50 PM	#5
egordon99 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Outside of Philly Posts: 1,561 Original Poster	Well I'm not as bummed now because of the Sigma announcement......

01-30-2008, 05:56 PM	#6
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by egordon99 So I go put my beloved 50-135mm on my K10D to go out and take some shots of my doggie in the backyard. I go outside, half-press the shutter button, whhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr What is that? Oh, the freakin' screw-drive focus If that isn't bad enough, my K10D can't lock focus outside in good light, it just whirls back and forth. You can sorta hear the SDM motor try to start up, but it seems like the camera senses this failure and kicks off the screw drive. Ughhhhhhh...... I've cleaned the contacts, verified I am still using V1.3 of the firmware, the M/A switch on the lens does work as it puts the body into manual focus so I'm not sure if it's the contacts. Last thing I'm going to try is a freshly charged battery (in the charger now) At least I bought it at a nice local camera shop, so I'm going to bring it there tommorow along with my body; that way I can rule out the body by trying another DA* lens in the shop (maybe I'll give the 16-50mm a try?) If it does have to go back to Pentax, I hope they get it back to me quickly; maybe the shop will give me a loaner Any other "Death of SDM" stories out there? Any words to console me? At least it's a somewhat slow time for photography for me; thank god it didn't happen during the holidays last month! Sorry to hear about your troubles with the SDM. Hopefully, this is not the beginning of a trend, based on cheap internal plastic parts that wear out prematurely. Ted

01-30-2008, 09:36 PM	#7
nicholashan New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Taiwan Photos: Gallery Posts: 5	Ya Ha......... your are right, plastic combine with high speed motor, the life cycle maybe become a big concern. ^_^ don't know penatx has this kind of test report or MTBF information or not. ^_^

01-31-2008, 07:00 AM	#8
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	Here's hoping for the best, egordon. So far, mine's been a sweetie, and I haven't heard of other 50-135 owners with the problem you've encountered.

01-31-2008, 08:28 AM	#9
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Originally posted by Tbear Sorry to hear about your troubles with the SDM. Hopefully, this is not the beginning of a trend, based on cheap internal plastic parts that wear out prematurely. Ted I sort of disagree with you here Ted, If Pentax has a serious QC problem with these lenses I'd like to see the problems fixed before they pump too many out. It'll either cost them a couple million now, or big time later

01-31-2008, 08:31 AM	#10
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by little laker I sort of disagree with you here Ted, If Pentax has a serious QC problem with these lenses I'd like to see the problems fixed before they pump too many out. It'll either cost them a couple million now, or big time later Stu, where did I say or imply that Pentax should pump out a bunch of garbage before fixing the QC problems? Ted

01-31-2008, 08:45 AM	#11
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	I guess that you didn't, I've just seen too many companies continue to pump out garbage apparently thinking that no-one would find the problem. Or they could fix it at a later date. I've lost faith in some of these companies, and refuse to give them any more of my $ If there's going to be a string of problems I'd sure like to see them happen now. And hopefully see Pentax do the right thing. I'm actually surprised at their problems with these lenses. They know how to build a lens that'll last, and they should stick with that practice. Especially when they're their more or less top $ lenses.

01-31-2008, 09:10 AM	#12
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by little laker I guess that you didn't, I've just seen too many companies continue to pump out garbage apparently thinking that no-one would find the problem. Or they could fix it at a later date. I've lost faith in some of these companies, and refuse to give them any more of my $ If there's going to be a string of problems I'd sure like to see them happen now. And hopefully see Pentax do the right thing. I'm actually surprised at their problems with these lenses. They know how to build a lens that'll last, and they should stick with that practice. Especially when they're their more or less top $ lenses. I couldn't agree more with you, Stu. Ted

01-31-2008, 10:14 AM	#13
egordon99 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Outside of Philly Posts: 1,561 Original Poster	Well I thought I'd come back and update everyone.....First off, it seems to be the body (I wished it was the lens) that is busted. I went to the camera store, and we put the lens on a K100D Super, and it focused fast and silent. We also put it on another K10D (after upgrading it to 1.3) and it was fine. We tried cleaning the contacts on my body mount, as well as re-install 1.3, no dice. Not only does it use the screw drive, but it also has lot of problems locking focus/hunting. So back to Pentax my K10D goes......I tried out a used D200 they had ($999) and man that thing was blazingly fast (they put a 24-120mm VR SWM on it), so I'm going to seriously look inside my soul and (yikes, please forgive me) consider switching to Nikon, as much as I LOVE the optics of my Pentax kit, for the type of work I'm getting into (weddings/events) it seems like the Nikon would be much better. Thanks for all your kind thoughts during my moment of crisis.....

01-31-2008, 11:08 AM	#14
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by egordon99 it seems like the Nikon would be much better. Put the emphasis on "it seems". I work with the D200 a lot and I can assure you that in practice it is not any better. The only thing I like on the D200 and which I love to get implemented into the K10D or a later model is that you can set the shutter time at which Auto-ISO jumps.