Originally posted by Marc Sabatella First, if you don't have the version I or "regular" version II, how can your tests prove or disprove anything about the relationship of the "L" version to either?
Second, I don't think it is true that the improvements form version I to II were primarily at the tele end, or that anything was "much" improved. My recollection of the Pentax literature, as well as what I saw in comparisons posted by others and the ones I did myself, that the differences mostly had to do with corner performance at all focal lengths.
Anyhow, I agree with your overall conclusion that as a wide-normal (18-35, say), it's a very good lens, although it does get noticeably weaker (and another stop slower) between 35 and 55. Shoot, if they made another version of this lens as an 18-35/3.5-4 that was correspondingly smaller, I'd buy it too! Interesting concept, now that I think about it. Unfortunately the existing FA-J 18-35 is actually bigger (to fit FF) but also half a stop slower and probably not as good...
I am not claiming to prove/disprove anything, only posting documented observations, which while meager are still something. Refuting them with your "recollections" is even weaker!
My comparisons are interpolating my own (subjective) findings of the characteristics of the DAL compared against the characteristics of both the DA and DA II versions in various published tests (subjective and objective) and marketing claims of Pentax.
As far as I know, no one has made an extensive head-to-head test of the DA, DAII and DAL 18-55 lenses, despite the gripping nature of such a heavyweight showdown.
However, I did offer an extensive collection and analysis of every known (to me) published test result of these 3 lenses here:
Compilation of Reviews (Re: Tests of the the DA 18-55 Mk II?): Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
The only objective tests I found were on the version I.
Yes, soft corners of version I were another weakness in addition to the tele-end softness. It seems to vary from review to review (out of 4 reviews listed there).
Version I was from the era of 6MP sensors. Version II was claimed by Pentax to improve the resolving power for the K20D's high-res sensor, but Pentax never mentioned specifics. It stands to reason that they improved either the corners or tele-end or both.
Later when I posted my own observations of the DAL I compared them to those published results mentioned above as well as some newer published test results. The discussion evolves in this thread:
Kit lens ver II continued [Page 1]: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
Specifically:
DA-II vs. DAL objective comparision: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Re: DA-II vs. DAL objective comparision (not vs. DA(I) ): Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
(Interestingly, the dubious Australian test results show that the DAL outperforms the DAII at the corners.)
Now, while a head-to-head-to-head comparison would clear things up once and for all, getting back on topic I stand by my main point that all 3 are good at 18mm. If my DAL should be the worst of the 3 and it's still good, then it stands to reason that the DA and DAII should also be good if not better.
The original poster wanted something 18mm and cheap and decent at f/8 for occasional use, either the original DA or DAII could suffice. Compared to the 16-45, the 18-55's are much smaller and lighter, which could be important if they are kept in the gear bag for occasional use.
I'm thinking of changing my my DAL to an 18-35 by driving a wood screw into the zoom to prevent it from going past 35mm and using some liquid paper to change the "-55" on the front to "-35".