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Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 02:21 PM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
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I agree.
WIll try some tests with matrix but I really don't like matrix.
I want my subject to be in focus and well exposed.
Normally I don't shoot things like canals and is center weighted probably the best setting for me.
This is the cleanest pic so far, shot a week ago.
This pic was also to dark. Yes, I know that it's a difficult picture again, maybe even more because of the dark car and the harsh gray sky but still....I feel that the Ricoh is to scared with exposure. I am pleased by the edges of the car which are still great despite the high contrast of the sky.
My Nikon D90 exposed to the right which gives clean images because you have to make it darker in post processing and the little bit of noise is gone after that.
But ,oke, I will stop wining about my Nikon because I almost never carried it with me because of the weight!
I found on another forum that others feel the same (that ricoh is overprotecting against higlights) and recomment to shoot +0,7 all the time.
Overexposure indicator on GR: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Well anyway, here's my best pic so far but still under exposed :-(
I wish all readers a good night!
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 01:23 PM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
Views: 3,949
I will try that :-)
For the record, here's a pic shot with my Samsung S7, in 8 bit jpeg and then converted it to B/W by just desaturation and add some contrast on my pc.
I think it looks pretty good for a converted 8 bit phone jpeg.
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 11:15 AM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
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Hmm...now I took a closer look at the pics, I came up with an explanation myself...
The white clouds maybe in the center according to the camera.
Maybe, it will protect against highlight clipping to much.

---------- Post added 03-25-17 at 11:18 AM ----------



This one doesn't have much noise. But if it's very cloudy, it's shows more often when I adjust the exposure.
I cannot talk anymore today, I'm sorry.
Have to give the children some attention :-)
I will do some other tests tomorrow!
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 11:00 AM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
Views: 3,949
And here's a picture when I opened the DNG file.
As you can see, my exposure is +0,3EV but the histogram shows an exposure that is mostly on the left side.
Most of the images are coming out this way.
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 10:47 AM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
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I tried to post an example but my messages don't show up anymore :-)
Try one last time while I'm cooking dinner.
This was shot in normal daylight, Av mode F8, iso 100 center weighted exposure and +0,3EV
Looks to dark to me!
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 09:59 AM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
Views: 3,949
Thanx for the quick replies!
Side by side I didn't do but I already can tell about some problems.
First of all, EV.
I used to have an DSLR and exposure was always correct.
When I open a DNG file on the pc, it is most of the time 2 EV to dark!!
When I correct this, I see lots of noise and the picture doensn't look sharp anymore.
When I decide to over expose 2 EV while shooting, much area's are over exposed.
I use the camera in Av mode like I used to do on my DSLR.
I never use auto iso. Always try to start at 100 iso and if shutter is below 1/60, I use 200 iso etc...
Exposure set on center weighted. I never use matrix because in my opinion, with matrix nothing is exposed right.
I use pinpoint focus. Seems to me it's the safest option to get the thing you really want to be in focus actually in focus.
I don't use the dynamic range tool, because it raises the basic iso to 320 iso and makes the camera a little slower.
I don't use JPG because the JPG engine also slows down the camera a lot.
But I did some testshots in JPG and especially skintones didn't look right. This was tested inhouse with normal daylight and whitebalance set on AUTO.
When I use flash (set on auto), the camera is again way off and pictures look ugly.

I know I am spoiled bij Nikon's metering and flash accuracy but I have compacts 10 years old which much better exposure metering than the Ricoh.
Can not trust the metering, cannot trust the auto flashpower.
Have to make every indoor shot at least 2 or 3 times by different manually chosen flash settings.
I know this is not just a point and shoot but if you cannot even trust the metering, where to start?
Forum: Ricoh GR 03-25-2017, 05:54 AM  
Couple of weeks with GR
Posted By ericzwerft
Replies: 18
Views: 3,949
Good afternoon! My name is Eric and I live in the Netherlands. Just registered here! NewBee Ricoh GR owner and so far I don't like it. (Again)
Last year I bought one but got frustrated because of the results. Sold it after having it a couple of weeks. Now bought one again because of the reviews and beautiful pics I've seen from other owners.
For now...same frustration :-)
Can't outclass my mobile phone with the Ricoh.
Colours don't look good, so I only try black and white.
Clean shot seems impossable even at 100 iso.
Only thing I can do is make the pics smaller, crop a lot and use heavy contrasts to hide the poor quality of the pics.
I see others shoot pics that look bright and clear and sharp!!
Even in colour, with beautiful colours!! Can hardly believe they use the same camera :-(
I don't know if they are using very heavy post processing with expensive noise removing software.

Anyway...I decided to try one more time to see if I could come home with a pic that with post processing looks better than a pic taken with my phone.
If not, I will sell it again and never buy a Ricoh again :-D
I will starting to follow fora this time and try to learn and practice...
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