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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-21-2017, 07:56 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
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Thanks to the comments on this forum and Twitter, I was able to release a new version.
I thank a lot of people who gave me comments.

[Large Image]
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFLspnwUAAIrdX8.jpg:orig

[Change]
- Integrated "SPEC" and "SERIES"
- I narrowed the target to 645 and K mount. (Omit the Q series)
- Color coding with combination of image processing engine and sensor
- Classified APS-C into "Adv", "Mid" and "Entry".
- A prototype of 645D was posted.
* Every generation, 645 was made! Awesome obsession. For the design plan in 2005, B is MZ-S, C is based on * istD.
- I compiled my brothers into one box. (K100D & K110D, K-50 & K-500)
- Organize K200D as a child of K10D
- Designer's models K-01 and K-S1 are categorized into the new category "Design".
- KP was positioned between K-3II and K-70.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-18-2017, 07:13 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
Thanks for your comment.

Your comment is correct. I have created two genealogy diagrams. "Series" represents motifs of model names, and "specs" show genealogies of models. That is, "spec" is the main genealogy diagram.

I also think that K100D and K110D are brothers like you are thinking, and this brother is not considered a child of K10D. Also written on the left side of genealogy chart, K100D is on May, K110D is on Aug, K10D is on Nov. It is a child of * istDL2. Manufacturers also answer in an interview as follows. "The basic part is common with *istDL 2"

When writing this brother to the genealogy chart, it may have been good to put it in one square like K - 5 II and K - 5 IIs. (This can also be said for K - 50 and K - 500)

Releases a version that reflects comments received nearby.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-16-2017, 07:17 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
Thank you for a wonderful comment.

In order to know the difference between the model compatible with KAF4 and the model which is not so, I organized the model focusing on the imaging engine. So, the sensor was no check.

I added a sensor to the printed lineage chart. Basically it was almost the same as the classification of imaging sensors, but I also found out something new.

As you say, K10D's child is K200D, its grandchildren are K-m. When looking back at the developers interview at the time, he said that "K200D is not a successor to K100D."
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I would like to make a version reflecting sensor information. However, I am worried whether it will become complicated.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-14-2017, 05:12 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
It is an interesting way of thinking. Mathematics!
I figured, is that what you say?
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-14-2017, 04:49 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
Thank you. I am pleased to receive comments that accurately pointed out my troubles.

I am also worrying about the positioning of KP and K-01. In fact, in the past version these treatments are changing every time. In this version, I refer to the price range of Japan. (K-01 is entries, KP is the same price as K-3II.)

As I also believe that K-S2, K-70, KP will be in sequence as a genealogy, I can connect with the line in the table of "SPEC".

Mark Newson called K - 01 "photography equipment for semi - professional applications clearly used". Even in that sense, I think that the positioning of K-01 is one class with one piece.

I heard that K-3II was a K-1 test machine. With GPS instead of loading a flash, pixel shifting, etc. K - 3 II has the same features as K - 1. So, I think that the successor to K-3 II is K-1, and that the successor in the price range is KP.

Should I return the positioning of KP and K-01 to the old version I attached?

---------- Post added 07-14-17 at 04:53 AM ----------


At first, I thought that there was no law as you said.

However, when I was making the table of SPEC,
I realized that there was a motif of name on the film camera,
and I made a table of SERIES.

---------- Post added 07-14-17 at 04:55 AM ----------


Thank you for your comment.

I released the first version of this article on January 25th.
After that, we have further thought and it is now the current version.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-13-2017, 08:51 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
Thank you for your comment. You can see the big picture by pressing the URL.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEn8Xb_VwAANxVE.jpg:orig

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEn8XcGUAAAPISH.jpg:orig
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-13-2017, 08:19 AM  
Fan made pentax dslr genealogy
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 18
Views: 3,165
I was interested in the history of PENTAX DSLR. So, I made a genealogy diagram.
There are two viewpoint, one on the series, the other on the spec.

- FAN MADE PENTAX DSLR GENEALOGY: SERIES

- FAN MADE PENTAX DSLR GENEALOGY: SPEC

The series viewpoint, I also explained the series of film cameras that became the motif of the series.
ex) The motifs of K2000, K-m, K-x, K-r are K1000, KM, KX, K2.
I think the name K2000 has two meanings, Kdigital's second generation series and K1000 a motif.
Also, K-r would have changed the number "2" to "r”.

The series spec viewpoint, I organized it according to the following rules.
- The base color represents the generations of the imaging engine.
ex) K10D, K20D, K200D, K-m are the same generation of PRIME.
- Arrows represent genealogies, annotations represent improvement points.
ex) Successor of K-m is K-x, changes to Sony sensor and order color
- The lower left number represents the firmware number.
It is a unique number given for each firmware of each model.

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If my idea is correct, it will be as follows.
- The countdown started from K-7 ended with K-1.
- Genealogies starting from K-01 (MZ series motif) also ended with K-70.
Therefore, I have no idea what the naming convention of the future Pentax camera will be.

However, by making these genealogy diagram,
I was able to establish some predictions about what will happen in the future.
- There may be 645 successive models next year or the next year.
- The successor of KP may eventually become the successor of K-3ii.
※ If S1, S2, SP is a motif, KPII based on SPII may be released.
- Variable angle machine which cut out function from K-70 may become an entry model.
※ However, it may be good to continue selling K-S2 for a while.

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In the future, I would like to increase the these degree of completion.
I'm happy if you can comment on this thread.
- Do you know the firmware number of the following models?
KP, K-50P, K-30P, 645D, K-XW, K-7W, K-7IR, K200D-W, K20D-W, K100 Super
- Do you know the version of Milbaut that will be the basis of PRIME MII and PRIME IV?

Best Regards.
Forum: Pentax K-30 & K-50 06-09-2017, 09:16 PM  
Running K-50 firmware on K-30
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 241
Views: 75,775
Thank you very much, ABel. I'm all ready for this dangerous experimentation.
Forum: Pentax K-30 & K-50 06-09-2017, 07:26 AM  
Running K-50 firmware on K-30
Posted By bv0000
Replies: 241
Views: 75,775
Does this firmware version 1.10 work in K-01(214)?

Not only K-30(215) ,K-50(222) and K-500(223) but also K-01 can be felt as brothers.
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