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Forum: Repairs and Warranty Service 03-14-2022, 10:29 PM  
Carl Zeiss Flektogon 20mm F/4
Posted By Joetitch
Replies: 5
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I am going to suggest something to do at your own peril.
Use a soldering iron to heat up the screws on the mount. Leave to cool then try undoing them. This might "break" the bond. Provided nothing is plastic at the mount end.
Only a suggestion.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 04:52 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By Davep
Replies: 20
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You specify vintage wide angle, however, if you want to consider current lenses, I've got the Zeiss Loxia 21mm F2.8 and it partners with the Sony A7 series incredibly well. (I also have the Loxia 50 f2.0, and plan to buy the 85 f2.4. My body is the original A7.) There is a Loxia 24mm if the 21 is a little too wide for you. However used Loxia's can be pricey.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 04:48 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By zapp
Replies: 20
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Define vintage. What does that mean to you? Price, image look, …
Zeiss 21 will do the job. Available for Contax mount and in newer mounts.
There are many threads about image drawing capabilities of older lenses - sharp from edge to edge is a fairly new criterion. Flektogon was old 20 years ago, no 30 years ago, will it be sharp edge to edge on digital, I doubt it.
Voigtländer has some nice vintage looking lenses for E-mount.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 03:01 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By BigMackCam
Replies: 20
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I have the reissued Russar+ MP-2 and it's a lovely lens (not the sharpest, and it vignettes like crazy, but it's very nice all the same), but on my A7 MkII it tends to produce magenta colour shifting in the borders and corners - due to the interaction between the sensor and the angle of light from that bulbous rear element :o I've seen the same effect on Leica digital photos posted online. It's fine for B&W, but rather limiting otherwise. I keep meaning to try it on a good film rangefinder. I'm sure it would be wonderful...
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 02:54 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By BigMackCam
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
A quick look on eBay shows numerous examples in Poland, Czech Republic, Latvia, Italy, the USA and even Japan... but, my, the prices have shot up 100%+ since I bought mine :eek: I paid GBP £130 including shipping a few years back for a mint, allegedly unused example, and I deliberated for quite a while even at that price - though in retrospect I'd say it was worth it. Now, though, it seems sellers are asking "collector" money for them :o It's a very good lens, but you can probably do just as well with something else and spend a lot less...
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 02:37 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By kypfer
Replies: 20
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Another vote for the Orion-15 … one of the (few) reasons I also use a mirrorless system :)
The 20mm Russar MP-2 worked well, but collector prices finally tempted me to sell it!
The Fujinon 19mm f/3.5 was highly rated in it's day … mine is in M42 and I'm hanging on to it ;)
The Sigma 21-35mm was also well rated, again mine is the original, with the built-in lens hood, in M42!
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 02:01 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By Fogel70
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
Are you sure you want a vintage lens? Vintage UWA lenses are often rare and can be expensive.
An adavantage of the shorter register distance of E-mount is that UWA lenses do not have to be as complex design as lenses designed for SLR.

There are some nice UWA lenses for E-mount that may cost less than old vintage UWA.

Tamron 20/2.8 is often is sold at below $300. (B&H has it for $249 right now) It also has some interesting features with 1:2 Macro and weather sealing.
Review Tamron 20mm F/2.8 Di III OSD M1:2 (Model F050) for Sony FE - CameraStuff Review
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-13-2022, 12:47 AM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By BigMackCam
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
If 28mm is wide enough, you might consider an Orion-15 6/28 rangefinder lens in Russian L39 mount. It's superb for landscape and architectural photography - and properly vintage, with the first versions dating back to the 1940s. Of all my Soviet lenses, it's one of my favourites. Small, very nicely built, and optically excellent, especially considering its age.

According to allphotolenses.com:
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-12-2022, 10:37 PM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By UncleVanya
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-12-2022, 10:14 PM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By surfar
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-12-2022, 08:58 PM  
Best vintage wideangle lens to adapt?
Posted By UncleVanya
Replies: 20
Views: 3,795
28/3.5 K is well liked. See Phillip Reeve review.

20 is to my mind, not wide but ultra wide. So perhaps I misunderstand your goals.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 02-20-2022, 07:51 PM  
Used lens, does it look ok?
Posted By luftfluss
Replies: 11
Views: 733
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 02-20-2022, 07:51 PM  
Used lens, does it look ok?
Posted By bertwert
Replies: 11
Views: 733
Ah whoops, serves me right for just reading the thread title and going from there :lol:


To the OP, I'm not seeing anything wrong with the lens from the photos - but that's very very little to go by, and assuming the focus is working well, nothing wrong with electronics, checking there's no optical issues with your camera, etc etc.

I really like the 21mm focal length on APS-C for landscapes, and I've heard it's good on FF too being a fair bit wider. As far as is the price worth it? At $450 it's around 64% of the new price at B&H, which for me, if it's a relatively new lens I'm looking for (and in good condition) is certainly a decent price. I can't say any experience with this specific lens, so I'll let someone else answer that, or suggest you check out online reviews. Have fun!
Forum: General Photography 12-20-2021, 12:22 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By redpit
Replies: 7
Views: 617
Minolta is the winner here...
Forum: General Photography 12-14-2021, 08:07 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By FozzFoster
Replies: 7
Views: 617
+1 for B!
Forum: General Photography 12-14-2021, 03:30 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By reynb
Replies: 7
Views: 617
I prefer B also!
Forum: General Photography 12-14-2021, 03:08 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By Michail_P
Replies: 7
Views: 617
I think B is closer to the idea of bokeh for my taste. It's a little softer, while A gives a crispier rendering of the background. That , of course when talking about blurry elements. If I would make a bokeh-centred shot, I would like it clearer .
Forum: General Photography 12-14-2021, 01:37 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By redpit
Replies: 7
Views: 617
B for me too. Better bokeh to my taste and also better all around IQ and rendering.
Forum: General Photography 12-14-2021, 12:48 AM  
Bokeh comparison 2.
Posted By DamienW
Replies: 7
Views: 617
In both cases...B appears to have better 'bokeh' for my tastes. There are tonal differences that I thought may be tricking my eye (contrast in bokeh can make it look a bit harsh), but B still has good contrast where it counts and yet the bokeh remains slightly softer.

That's my take anyway.
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 10:04 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By luckylu
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
For me Picture B. I think it is slightly easier on the eye and less harsh. Whether that is a judgement based on the bokeh or my subconscious being influenced by the whole image I find it hard to say however like I say B for me
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 09:54 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By othar
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
As the exposure in picture A seems to be brighter and the sun is also more intense, it is hard to judge bokeh only.

I like image B more as more details are visible on the subjects (more DOF) and it is less busy than the other image, but as I said bokeh is hard to judge with these two examples.
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 06:46 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By Lev
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
to me, B is better isolated with subject. Their colors are different though.
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 03:50 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By DamienW
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
Totally B for me. They look like such very different shots though. I could be getting swayed by the sharpness of B (may provide more impact for the out of focus areas)...but it appears to me that the specular highlights are more pleasing too (they are obvious cats eyes...but that doesn't bother me...they are relatively smooth).
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 02:55 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By reynb
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
B for me also!
Forum: General Photography 12-07-2021, 02:29 AM  
Bokeh comparison.
Posted By officiousbystander
Replies: 31
Views: 1,346
Is it really bokeh test or a depth of field test? To my (old) eyes in A only the centre foreground is in focus whereas in B most of the foreground is sharp. B is preferred but doesn't have what could be described as creamy bokeh.
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