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Forum: General Talk 09-26-2023, 08:19 AM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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Based on what I often hear from the posts, I thought the favorite snack would've been gripes.
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 07-22-2023, 02:55 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
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Forum: General Talk 07-15-2023, 08:15 AM  
The Joke Thread
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Not a joke but funny, or is it?

DAZ51021 by Dean Zierman, on Flickr
Forum: General Talk 04-01-2023, 10:41 AM  
The Joke Thread
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Electrifying the mules seems cruel to me.

DAZ
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 02-25-2022, 06:24 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
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3DAZ0678 -1 by Dean Zierman, on Flickr

Sunrise over Mt. Rainier.
Forum: General Talk 12-17-2021, 02:04 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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It is still better to be the chicken at breakfast, than the pig. The chickens is involved, but the pig is committed.
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 08-16-2021, 03:56 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
Posted By DAZ
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Heart light.

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Forum: Lens Clubs 02-23-2016, 07:49 PM  
SIGMA 8-16mm CLUB
Posted By DAZ
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As you asked so nicely MRCDH I guess I can wade in and see what I can stir up. 1st up a little light reading for you to do that range from the technical to the more photogenic. The following should acquaint you with the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_%28photography%29
A Guide to Perspective Distortion Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews
Portrait Lenses, Beauty and Perspective - digital Artform
Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance? (a tutorial) -- General Photography Talk in photography-on-the.net forums

The most important thing to realize here is it’s all based on the perspective of where your camera is looking and the distances between the various objects in the field of view. When you understand perspective and perspective distortion you understand why a normal lens is called a normal lens and why some photographers prefer certain focal lengths for portrait photography. It really starts become simple and obvious when you understand it.

The reason it is so important with this particular lens is because as you get farther from normal (and this lens is just about as far from normal as you can get in the wide direction) the more apparent perspective distortion becomes. This lens is so wide that the simple rules of just don’t do “X” almost don’t apply. It is imperative that you always are totally aware of the distances to all your subjects and the angle your cameras is at and how these angles change these distances.

As I am limited to the photos I can post to this forum (as in I can’t post anymore photos) I am limited to showing you examples from my Flickr site. This should be more than enough photos to get your eyes blurry. All of these photos were taken at 8 mm and if I remember correctly I made no effort to correct Keystone distortion. If you hover your mouse over these photos you should see a double ended line up in the right corner. If you click on that the photos should size down and you should be able to see the other information that Flickr will give you.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/24149779562/in/datetaken/lightbox/
In this photo you can see there is a little bit of convergence with some of the objects near the edge of the frame. But as this room was actually around it is very difficult for me to determine where the straight lines were.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/24149775042/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Again another round room but easier to see the straight lines. This is over 110° wide.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/20838537531/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here is readily apparent the convergent effect.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/16599768277/in/datetaken/lightbox/


Here even though there are people relatively close to the edge of the frame they look for the most part normal. The reason is the importance of distance. If the people are too close to the camera and at the edge of the frame different parts of them will be significantly different distances and will generate the distortions. The person furthest away is actually the tallest at over 6 feet the person closest is only about 5’ 6”. More on that later.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/14238693063/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Another example of the convergence of the distance.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/13673991663/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here I can make my shadow look much longer than it really is.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/13673997384/in/datetaken/lightbox/
More people at the edge of the frame. There is some distortion to the person closest to the camera but almost none in the distance.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/13673873694/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Technically the ramp is keyhole distorted here. In this case the distortion helps to increase the apparent size of the airplane.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/13673943844/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here the people are too close to the camera and it does generate some unpleasant distortions. This is mostly apparent in people since we are very conscience of what people are supposed to look like. In this case it was unavoidable as there is no place else for me to go in the relatively small cockpit of a C-17. Without a lens as wide as this I would not have been able to of captured the cockpit as a whole.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/9533615204/in/datetaken/lightbox/
This view looks relatively normal. This is deceiving as if you are actually standing here you would’ve naturally have turned your head slightly one direction to the other to looked on the 2 different paths. They are over 90° apart. As you can see though the trees all look like they’re standing relatively straight up.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/8254380334/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here by going portrait orientation I was able to keep the buildings in view with a minimum of keyhole distortion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/8254374426/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here going back to horizontal orientation and keeping the camera close to horizontal (it still pointed up slightly) I was again able to keep the buildings relatively square and capture both edges of the fountain.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/8253293835/in/datetaken/lightbox/
By moving up to the 2nd floor and standing at the edge of the balcony I was able to keep everything square and capture the entire room.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/8254112398/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Even though everything is relatively square here (except that which was naturally damaged in the storm) both the clouds and the wave lines on the sand still generate convergent lines.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/7483619908/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here the perspective distortion makes the plane look like a tunnel.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/5905926177/in/datetaken/lightbox/
By cropping out the top and the bottom of the photo gives you a more panoramic feel and essentially eliminates the perspective distortion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/5569714413/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here the perspective distortion makes the slight path loop look much greater than it really is.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/5570259904/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here you don’t really see the perspective distortion unless you realize that the flowers are all planted in a perfect square.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dazt/5167457490/in/datetaken/lightbox/
Here again I kept the camera perfectly perpendicular to all of the vertical structures. The perspective distortion is in the shadows and the sun light. One of these days I intend to make better use of this effect I just haven’t found a subject better than this yet.

All of the above should give you enough to chew on with this new lens for a while. Remember pick your perspective 1st, then choose your framing for what subject matter you wish to include, this then will dictate your field-of-view angle and that will let you pick the lens length to use.

DAZ
Forum: Lens Clubs 02-22-2016, 04:15 PM  
SIGMA 8-16mm CLUB
Posted By DAZ
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Probably one of the 1st things you should learn about is perspective, perspective distortion and the different ways that perspective distortion can present itself, for example keystone distortion. For a lens as wide as this understanding where to stand with how and where to point the lens is paramount in getting the best out of this lens.


DAZ
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 06-07-2021, 06:06 PM  
Contest Something special about that lens - round 5 - NIFTY 50
Posted By DAZ
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I wanted to take a relatively long exposer night photo of the Seattle skyline. For this I would need both high resolution and very low internal lens reflections. My Pentax M 50MM 1.7 lens seemed perfect for this. The resulting photo is a stitch of 2 separate exposures on a Pentax K20 ISO 100, 15 seconds and I believe f8. I liked this photo so much I had it printed on 2 three-foot wide aluminum panels that take up over 6 feet of wall space.


https://live.staticflickr.com/4042/5183474388_3e02e6d35b_o_d.jpg
Forum: Pentax K-3 III 06-12-2021, 03:52 PM  
External power
Posted By DAZ
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That is a good question. As I have access to both the camera and a portable battery power supply I decided to investigate.


BLUF answer is no. The camera will only charge when the camera is off. It will only run from its internal battery and will not draw power from the USB went on.

Anker PowerCore Speed 20000, 20000mAh Qualcomm Quick Charge3.0 & PowerIQ Portable Charger. The Powercore has blue lights that give the state of the charge of its battery and that it is providing power to an external device. These blue lights will only be on continuously when it is providing power to another device.
Normal output on both ports 5V 2A.
On both Quick Charge ports 5-8V 3A, 8-10V 2.4A, 10-12V 2A. One port is Qualcomm Quick Charge3.0 & the other port is PowerIQ.


All of the following is the same for both ports.


As I had just updated the camera to firmware 1.02 and it had a new fully charged battery in the camera. With the camera off and plugged into the portable charger the red light on the back of the camera and the blue lights will illuminate for a few moments. The lights will then turn off. This indicates that the battery pack in the camera is fully charged.

I turned on the camera, unplugged from the battery pack,and have it run continuously for about 45 minutes with the back screen as the viewfinder on to drain the camera battery some. Even after 45 minutes the battery indicator on the camera did not even show one bar of depletion. I then plugged in the USB on the camera into the battery pack. The camera had the blinking stuttering red light on and the battery pack had continuous blue lights on.

I verified that it was continuing to charge for about 15minutes. At which point I turned the camera on and the blue indicator lights on the battery pack would then go off. This indicates that the camera will only run off of its internal battery and not draw any power from the USB to run the camera.

I continued charging the camera from the battery pack for a total time of approximately one hour. At which point the camera battery was fully charged and all the indicator lights went off. The camera battery was not even half depleted and it probably would’ve been faster to remove the battery from the camera and put it on its dedicated charger.
Forum: General Talk 09-13-2020, 10:15 AM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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Wouldn't that be "never dare an idiot until you have your camera ready"?
Forum: Photographic Technique 03-17-2019, 11:55 AM  
Using monochrome to better note contrasts/tones/etc.
Posted By DAZ
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I too am very much in agreement with Wheatfield’s opinion on B&W. I have not shot anywhere near as much B&W as he has, but I did also start mostly shooting B&W. Color is mostly eye candy to the eye. It can very easily distract from some of the more important photographic compositional elements in the photo. This is part of the reason why it is somewhat difficult for photographers who start in color to transition to B&W. It can also make it more difficult for these photographers to progress beyond these limitations. There is some logic to saying that photographers should start with B&W and then progress to color, but that’s is not going to happen anymore.

Probably everybody here has heard the phrase; the photographer needs to see with the camera sees. In this case, the photographer needs to learn to see in B&W. Part of the problem is that even if we are born colorblind, we can’t help but see in color. The other part of the problem is even though B&W is by definition no color; color is extremely important in B&W. What I mean by this last part is color is not in the final photo, but different colors in the real world have different contrast levels. A red and blue color may look sharply different to our eye but could have an identical gray level in the final product. If these two colors are side-by-side, you could end up with just one gray blob.

If you’ve ever seen photos of a director or art director from the old silent film days, you may have noticed some things hanging around their neck. One of these items you might recognize was something called the Director’s viewfinder. The Director’s viewfinder was a lens to help the directors frame his possible shots. But the other device you may have mistaken for a monocle. Monocles were a popular quasi-fashion item at the time. But more likely it was a device like this.


Tiffen #1 Black and White Viewing Filter BWVF B&H Photo Video


What you would do is hold this filter up to your eye and close your other eye. You would look at the scene for several seconds; this would allow your brain to adapt and somewhat mute out some of the colors. You would then quickly remove the device from your eye and look at the scene again. This would help you determine if there were items in the scene that would not have enough black and white contrast. For example, you would not want the actress sitting on the couch in her dress and the dress on the couch blend together. So the director could order up changes before the scene was shot and not need to waste miles of film. It could also be used to check out the makeup on the actors to ensure they did not look too ghostly.



http://hair-and-makeup-artist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Elaine-Shepard-BW.jpg


The makeup artists at the time would apply makeup with highly contrasting colors without regard to how the actors might look if seen in color.

This helps explain why B&W photographers used to use different colored filters to help bring out the contrast between different colored portions of a photo. We don’t need to do that now nor is it advised as we have much more control over the process by shooting in RAW and manipulating the colored filters in postprocessing. Wheatfield was probably very good at choosing his colored filters, but it most likely took him more than a few years to develop his eye for this.

Although the colored filter I mentioned above is one tool to help one see contrasting colors in B&W another way was what was mentioned in the opening post to shoot a JPEG in B&W. I don’t recommend either of these methods. The use of the filter was mainly a last-minute check that there wasn’t a contrast problem before shooting and wasting miles of film. It doesn’t help you learn to see in B&W. Shooting a JPEG in B&W can very easily turn into a crutch, and one will never learn to truly see the scene correctly. One needs to follow the process from beginning to end concentrating on each step of the process.

I start by carefully looking at the scene. I then either imagine myself or move around until I found the perspective point I wish to photograph. I deconstruct each of the photographic elements to choose my framing. At this point, I start contemplating color and B&W. If I think that this is going to make a good B&W photo, I then contemplate what the scene might look like if I exaggerate the colors. I do this because that is most likely what I’ll end up doing in postprocessing. So in postprocessing, my 1st step is to process the photo as if I was trying to make a good color photo. My next step is then usually to start boosting the color contrasts all out of whack and then comparing this to what it would look like when I turn it into B&W. I might go back and forth a few times until I have a somewhat good contrasty B&W photo. I’m still not finished with this photo though. I now convert the photo to B&W, but I apply various color filters as I used to when I was shooting with B&W film. The advantage of doing all of this in the computer postprocessing is I can very easily go back and forth learning how one part affects another part. Other than the order is reversed from the way we used to do it in B&W it is very much the same process. I do have some photos that I can point to if anybody’s interested in seeing some of the intermediate steps.


DAZ
Forum: General Talk 10-19-2019, 01:24 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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“A pun is the lowest form of humor—when you don't think of it first.” ― Oscar Levant

DAZ
Forum: General Talk 09-01-2019, 07:49 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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It is a good thing he didn't bring his friend nine, but that would have been odd.

DAZ
Forum: General Talk 05-30-2019, 03:49 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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We all need to be less resistant and mho conductive like Siemens.


DAZ
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 01-06-2019, 07:20 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
Posted By DAZ
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DAZ51095 -1 by Dean Zierman, on Flickr

From my drive home visiting the relatives.

DAZ
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 12-02-2018, 08:16 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
Posted By DAZ
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I've been traveling quite a bit of late. Traveling by airplane is a bit like being a pack dog on a dogsled team. Unless you're the lead dog the view doesn't change much. All I get is the same old boring views out the window.


DAZ50827 -1-1-Edit by Dean Zierman, on Flickr

DAZ50756 -2-1-Edit by Dean Zierman, on Flickr

DAZ
Forum: Post Your Photos! 02-03-2018, 10:23 AM  
Backyard Wild Animals Contest Crab apple squirrel.
Posted By DAZ
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Thanks, it truly was inspired by Rupert.

Normally yes, they aresomewhat difficult to shoot but in this particular case no. When I took this photo, it also helped solve a minor mystery. In my yard,there is a crabapple tree. Every year Iwould see it grow if you crabapple’s, butI would never see them on the ground. Not that I one of the crabapples but the mystery was what was happeningto them? Part of the reason for metaking this photo is I wanted to see what it was eating. When I got the photo blown up on my computer screen, I could see that it was one of themissing crab apples. Otis and hisfriends were eating them all!

Rupert liked to point out that the best way to get Otis tohold still and not act so “squirrely” was to give him something to do,preferably by bribing him. A lot ofpeople use something like peanuts, but Iwouldn’t recommend that as it’s not good for Otis. Just about anything that can hold theirattention for a moment or 2 and make them predictable can be used. Something like dried corn or fruit may be preferable to something like nuts. The corn or the fruit they’re more likely towant to eat immediately whereas the nuts they may just scamper off and squirrelaway for later.

DAZ
Forum: Post Your Photos! 02-02-2018, 08:12 PM  
Backyard Wild Animals Contest Crab apple squirrel.
Posted By DAZ
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Views: 1,059
DAZ_2595 by Dean Zierman, on Flickr
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 01-19-2018, 05:55 PM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
Posted By DAZ
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DAZ58860 -1_stitch by Dean Zierman, on Flickr


Crater. Really really big.



DAZ
Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 01-21-2018, 10:46 AM  
Thematic A Flair for Flare
Posted By DAZ
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That is correct WPRESTO; it is the Barringe crater. For those that don’t know it is named Barringe crater after the man who 1st correctly identified it as a meteor crater. And when I refer to it as “really really big” it was not my intent to say it is the biggest. One of the things that is lacking in a photo,without something in the photo to give it a sense of scale, is the size of something. Other craters are larger and older, but this is considered the best-preserved crater. In this case, it comes down to that it is easiest to see that it is a crater. But even standing on the rim viewing it with your own eyes you don’t even get a sense of its scale then. I used a Sigma 8-16mm at 8 mm on an APS C camera to try to capture the crater. And even at 8 mm (about 120°), I couldn’t get it all in one frame. I’ve never had that problem before with this lens (said with a slightly sad and puzzled expression). Using your own eyes, you need to turn your head quite a bit to see the whole thing, and that is still not giving you a sense of scale. A few things to possibly help you put this into perspective. To the left of the lens flare on the crater rim is a large boulder. This is called “house boulder” because is said to be the size of a standard American house. But even that only helps a little bit. If you look extremely carefully at the crater floor, you will see that there are a few abandoned structures. Near one of those, they have placed an American flag the same size as the flag that was placed on the moon. Next to this flag is a life-size (6 foottall) white plywood cutout of an astronaut. Without this being pointed out most people (without optical aids) can not identify these objects nor even notice them.



DAZ
Forum: General Talk 11-01-2017, 07:57 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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So 1+1=10?

DAZ
Forum: General Talk 08-23-2017, 05:27 PM  
The Joke Thread
Posted By DAZ
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I decided to go see the eclipse. As it was predicted that so many people would be going to see this eclipse I decided to go 2 days early so I could be rested on the day of the eclipse. After driving most of the day I finally set up camp just before the sun was setting. Too tired to do almost anything else I crawled into my sleeping bag and looked up at my tent thinking I would at least have all day tomorrow to relax and rest.

In the middle of the night as the wind was lightly blowing across my face I looked up and saw the most glorious sight. It was so dark I could not see my hand in front of my face but I could see the sky was full of stars. I could see the Milky Way and all the constellations.

With all the awe-inspiring splendor above me, one and only one all-encompassing question came to my mind. Where did my tent go?































The answer, to this important and relevant question, was the gentle breeze had blown the tent flap back that I’d forgotten to zipper and my head was hanging out the door.

DAZ
Forum: General Photography 07-08-2017, 07:28 PM  
So you wanna photograph the Eclipse - what you need to know in (sorta) a nutshell
Posted By DAZ
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I've been practicing and trying different techniques. This is about my best so far, about a 50% crop. It really is annoying when you're subject won't hold still! Definitely still need to do more work. There won't be time to work out anything on the day it happens.


DAZ57163 -1 by Dean Zierman, on Flickr
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