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Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II
07-08-2016, 04:40 PM
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But there is no defence if the images and text have been altered in any way (without suitable acknowledgement).
To do so is absolutely dishonest.
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Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II
07-08-2016, 04:16 PM
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
10-08-2015, 08:35 AM
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Depends on your viewpoint and a lot of other factors that all need to be considered. Some like me have no need for a FF camera, so we are not a target for Ricoh.
I am old.....born the same year fire was discovered.....and almost burned down my cave dwelling.....so I don't have a long future ahead where I might become a famous Pro. APS-C suits me well. There are others like me that for various reasons are content as things are.
However, a couple of years ago when I had my little downtown studio, I would have bought a Pentax FF without a doubt. So they missed one sale, and many I know have gone to Canon or Nikon since. Sometimes you just need to stop the bleeding.
Damn those were fun times! Did I need a FF? Not really, but I would have bought one if it was a Pentax.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35763648@N05/albums/72157631360478088
Others want to have the best, either for need or greed. Bragging rights are very important to some.:D If I was younger it would be an advantage to go FF and build a system, and no doubt any here will do just that in the coming years. I think Ricoh is thinking ahead and even if sales don't skyrocket, they will certainly add to future sales in both cameras and lenses.
I tend to think of what a wise old guy told me when I was a kid in High School and worked part time in a shoe store. It was the best shoe store in town and carried a wide and popular selection that others couldn't match. The owner was very aggressive and business oriented and when I mentioned one day that "we have no real competition".....he replied..."If a man in China buys a pair of shoes from some other store, it is a pair of shoes we didn't sell."
In today's world that is even more significant...that guy in China can buy from anywhere on the globe. It is important to have what he wants or needs.
Regards!:)
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
10-08-2015, 08:26 AM
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I probably should stay out of this, but...
1st, to Norm's point about mirrorless, I'm with him. I don't want one. I can see the case for one, though, and I'd disagree it's about a fashion statement. A very good fried of mine, and he's a respected professional, shoots an A7R because he gets great impages with it, and it's very compact for travel. He also has a Nikon D800 and a Canon APS-C so he's basically running 3 systems (he can afford to because he gets his lenses free as a rep for a third-party lens maker). Mirroless seems the domain of Sony, Fuji and Olympus right now. Pentax dipped their toe with the K-01 and a follow-on might work, provided they choose a camera design instead of a fashion designer next time.
2nd, people WILL switch if the right gear is available. This same pro loved Pentax in the film days and would consider switching, I think, if his sugar daddy made k-mount lenses. They don't right now but that may change if Pentax market share starts moving up again. Other pros will switch in a minute if it's a better tool that helps them make money, and when the pros start switching, others will follow. My guess is it's going to be awhile, though, as the first iteration sounds geared towards landscape photography, maybe architectural/product photography, not the cameras consumers see (i.e. sidelines of the Superbowl).
3rd, having a ff upgrade option will, IMHO, help drive up APS-C sales as some buyers aspire to upgrade at some point and don't want to invest in glass in a system that doesn't allow it. When I returned to photography after several years in the wilderness, I had to think pretty hard about what system to buy. I finally chose the K-10 because I already had legacy glass from the film days. Had I not, I very likely would have gone Canon BECAUSE they offer a ff option that I could upgrade to later without obsoleting heavy investments in glass. I'm glad I chose Pentax, but I have a hard time believing I'm the first and only buyer who struggled with this decision and most of the others had no motivation to choose Pentax so went the other way.
None of this may matter in the long run. The market is changing. Phone cameras continue to improve. The number of images being captured is astronomical compared to just 15 years ago. Everyone and their mother is snapping away and maybe the whole DSLR market will disappear due to pocketable cameras. I'm betting not, and I think Pentax is doing the right thing to position themselves for the long haul.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
10-08-2015, 08:11 AM
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I can think of a few reasons...
- Because the professionals are where the money is -- how many people buying low- to mid-range APS-C DSLRs never buy any new bodies or any more lenses beyond the kit? Especially important with the ILC market as a whole in decline
- Because going after the bigger crowd requires more resources devoted to marketing and distribution that Ricoh may not want to commit -- at least here in the USA, they don't seem to run advertisements for their cameras and they're no longer physically present in the big-box stores, or even in any of the smaller camera stores by me -- Canon/Nikon/Sony have a huge advantage there (someone upthread already mentioned Ricoh doesn't want to play the "high volume, low margins" game)
- Because getting professionals on board now should help build their brand recognition to the point where marketing to the masses becomes easier later on, should they decide to (get them out of "they still make cameras?" status in the collective consciousness)
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
10-08-2015, 06:32 AM
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People will spend their money on a Pentax FF instead of moving to Canon or Nikon, although a good number have already done that. As for they aren't going to make any money, Pentax makes money on smaller volumes than an other camera companies. They seem to decide how many they can sell, start up production line, pick a magic point to stop production, and then sell off what they have left, and they seem to be able to make money on relatively small numbers of cameras. And people already migrate from Nikon and Canon to Pentax, so why wouldn't they continue to do that with the FF? You're assertion that no one but current Pentax users will buy the Pentax FF, I guess you didn't notice what happened when Pentax released the 645z. And how do you know the FF isn't going to be "state of the art,industry leading"... there are many things like faster AF that seem to be possible on FF and not on APS-c.
Your point seems to be that Pentax is going to make the same thing that's out there. That's funny because, Pentax has always said, they aren't going to release an FF unless it has some industry leading unique features. So, you're a year or two behind the news cycle in your analysis.
If you start from the view point that Pentax or anyone else is going to release something not as good as what others release, then insert any company not just Pentax, where can you go from that? I fully expect Pentax to release an FF with pixel shift, that in the right circumstances will blow even the 645z out of the water. You just wait and see.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
10-08-2015, 05:56 AM
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I'm relatively new to photography so maybe it's just my lack of experience and knowledge talking, but I really don't understand why ricoh is wasting any time and money at all on a FF. pentax FF isn't going to be groundbreaking to where canikons will switch. I'm just speculating here but how many aps-c users will upgrade to the FF? Maybe half? And I think that's a very optimistic guess. Pentax has some of the best apsc cameras available, an the best MF camera available so why not focus on what they're good at? Maybe work on an affordable MF camera priced the same as canikons FF cameras. A camera like that can be pentaxs offer to the professional photographers instead of another option for a FF.
its almost 2016. people like spending money on new technology. why not work on something like a stellar mirrorless camera that wirelessly tethers with a tab? something where you can edit your pictures on the spot.
Offer a pro package where you can control your whole system, flashes, camera, editing- all on the tab- on location. Maybe it's just me but I don't see a point in playing follow the leader when you can be the leader. Why play catch up with companies like canikon? And who cares about a pentax ff anyhow? The people on here. Maybe a few thousand people? Seems like a big waste to me.
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Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II
07-12-2014, 11:33 PM
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