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Forum: Lens Clubs 08-12-2013, 05:16 PM  
SIGMA 10-20mm CLUB
Posted By GvilleRick
Replies: 3,844
Views: 936,122
A shot taken outside the Homeplace Restaurant in Catawba, VA.



I had the 10-20 on to take some wide shots and took this one of my granddaughter running towards me.

Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 03-19-2013, 01:16 PM  
:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots
Posted By Swift1
Replies: 26,422
Views: 3,336,961

Pentax KM, SMC Pentax 35/3.5, Fujicolor 200
Forum: General Talk 02-16-2013, 01:09 PM  
Your latest acquisition
Posted By Racer X 69
Replies: 27,222
Views: 2,108,431
Yes they are!



Forum: General Talk 12-07-2012, 02:18 PM  
Skin in the Game
Posted By Nesster
Replies: 11
Views: 1,283
Well, two points here: 1) why would I want my children to have a worse deal than me and 2) first they come for the welfare queens, then they come for the young ones, and then they come for the old folk. Domino theory. Foot in the door. The NRA doctrine. Why should I believe they'll leave me alone for long?

SS is not the biggest problem, and is manageable for many years into the future.
SS is a political swerve by Republicans who have ideas about it, and the topic seems simple enough for most people to grasp. What the Republicans want to distract us from, the real ticking budget bomb, is health care cost. There the Republicans don't have much to offer, and are against their own plan. So you see, the budget problem has to be in welfare, SS and keeping tax rates low.
Forum: General Talk 04-01-2012, 09:18 PM  
Children's proverbs
Posted By SpecialK
Replies: 6
Views: 1,669
I don't think I've posted these before. Hope not. Supposedly the beginning of the proverbs were completed by first grade school children.

1. Don't change horses...until they stop running.

2. Strike while the...bug is close.

3. It's always darkest before...Daylight Saving Time.

4. Never underestimate the power of...termites.

5. You can lead a horse to water but...How?

6. Don't bite the hand that...looks dirty.

7. No news is...impossible

8. A miss is as good as a...Mr.

9. You can't teach an old dog new...Math

10. If you lie down with dogs, you'll ...stink in the morning.

11. Love all, trust...Me.

12. The pen is mightier than the...pigs.

13. An idle mind is...the best way to relax.

14. Where there's smoke there's...pollution.

15. Happy the bride who...gets all the presents.

16. A penny saved is...not much.

17. Two's company, three's...the Musketeers.

18. Don't put off till tomorrow what...you put on to go to bed

19. Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and...You have to blow your nose.

20. There are none so blind as...Stevie Wonder.

21. Children should be seen and not...spanked or grounded.

22. If at first you don't succeed...get new batteries.

23. You get out of something only what you...see in the picture on the box

24. When the blind lead the blind... get out of the way.

25. A bird in the hand...is going to poop on you

26. Better late than...pregnant
Forum: General Talk 03-12-2012, 07:02 PM  
Heartland Institute Climate Denial Fraud leaked:
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 57
Views: 5,276
I think you're thinking of 'Infallible Prophecy' when you think that way.

A robust theory can withstand errors. Absolutist claims cannot.

Science is not your idea of 'religion.' It's *science.* It's *designed* to do what it does, accounting for error and uncertainty, ...not claim to be 'unverifiable commandments that demand to be accepted as perfection, or else divils are involved.'

Neither opinion alters a shred of data.

People claiming absolutes are rightly called on the fact that their absolutes are always flawed.

A body of observation doesn't go away the moment someone doesn't carry a one to the tens column.







All of this science denial isn't about two 'rival theories,' it's about certain absolutist *beliefs* claiming the rest of the world and all observations of it are nothing *more* than a rival dogma, claiming to be more absolutist than it ever did... then using that claim to think that arguments from ignorance "prove" elaborate conspiracy theories which themselves are supposed to ...what... Be about *you?*


Gods, man. You won't understand anything sacred, never mind practical, any better by refusing to even understand what we can look at repeatably. The problem here is you believe there's a conflict where none needs to be. The only conflict is what someone taught you to bring with you.

Why?
Forum: General Talk 03-11-2012, 11:58 PM  
AAAARGGHHH!!!! My brand new USB drive just died!!!! :(
Posted By Alliecat
Replies: 28
Views: 3,326
*Rant alert*

AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

I hate computer gadgets! I hate the techy crap required with digital photo anything. It's 3:45 a.m. & I am once again wasting time thanks to stupid technical problems.
So I have this potentially great opportunity, my first contract with a stock photo agency, & I am preparing my first batch of photos to send them. Well, the first half of the first batch since it's taking so long. I have to scan them all from my (perfectly safe & storage-stable) negatives, then touch up all the specks, & in all that will be probably 250 hours' work.
I bought a brand new Verbatim 500GB "Store & Go Superspeed 3.0" drive to back all these pix up... supposed to be this brilliant wonderful product, hot-pluggable, blah blah blah... so I've backed up files onto it somewhere between 4 & 6 times, total, & tonight it died. Froze my computer, the drive is inaccessible, when I do (after about 5 minutes) get the "properties" window, it says there is no free space on it. (I used a few % of the 500GB so far.)
I have to get some of these files off my laptop since it's getting full. Now it has taken me 3 hours to back up the pix, 1GB at a time, on my trusty li'l old 1GB flash drive, onto the old old computer which still runs WinME, because that's currently the only place to put them.
I'm just livid. Of course it's past the store's 30-day return period so now I'll have to phone Verbatim & do battle with their bureaucracy, probably have to ship the frelling thing to the States so they can decide whether there's anything wrong with it.
There goes tomorrow's free time.
I understand that any digital storage device you buy can/will fail, which makes me think I should just say WTF & buy the first one I come across on eBay for a few bucks instead of wasting all the time I did choosing this one, & I was looking for a little flash drive as a 2nd backup. Now my backup is just as likely to be CDs. Tons of them. (And yes, I know they aren't fail-proof either, which further heightens my frustration.) A digital friend was telling me about his backups; 2 external hard drives, 4 portable hard drives, something like that, & this strikes me as so ridiculous. I am not a techie; I am not going to be building network systems, RAID boxes or whatever... Yes, I am old fashioned & like simple processes because I have better things to do with my time than mess with computer glitches. I'm just disgusted with the whole thing & the next person who tells me I should switch to digital is going to get a smack upside the head.
Film was so SIMPLE. Photo album, box of negatives. They are not going to evaporate when I take the elastic off the box. :mad:
*rant alert light*OFF*

Sorry, guys. Had to vent somewhere. :(
Forum: General Talk 03-05-2012, 03:26 PM  
Cardinal Dolan : "You ought to visit a prostitute to help you.’ ”
Posted By Wheatfield
Replies: 211
Views: 13,446
I was speaking pretty specifically to this, which you posted prior:
"Show me an industry that is getting rich and I will show you an industry that is heavily regulated by the federal government."
However, it appears we are saying much the same thing regarding large corporations writing their own legislation, where we differ is that you don't see any options other than to do away with regulations entirely, whereas I am living in a country that is making regulations work for the good of the population.
If your government is screwed up, you need to fix your government, not just bleat about how they can't do anything right.
When my truck breaks, I fix it, when my dog misbehaves, I train it. This is how grown ups deal with things.
Forum: General Talk 01-29-2012, 02:06 PM  
Separation of Church and State:
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 69
Views: 5,089
"Under God" was added in the 50's....... sad it say it has not been eliminated yet.........

On July 11, 1954, just one month after the phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance,[10] the U.S. Congress enacted Public Law 84-140, which required the motto on all coins and currency. The law was approved by President Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, and the motto was progressively added to paper money over a period from 1957 to 1966.[6] In 1956 the phrase was legally adopted as the United States' national motto by a law passed by the 84th United States Congress.(Public Law 84-851)",[11] and the United States Code at 36 U.S.C. § 302, now states: "'In God we trust' is the national motto."

In 2006, on the 50th anniversary of its adoption, the Senate reaffirmed "In God We Trust" as the official national motto of the United States of America.[12] In 2011 the House of Representatives passed an additional resolution reaffirming "In God We Trust" as the official motto of the United States, in a 396-9 vote.[13][14] According to a 2003 joint poll by USA Today, CNN, and Gallup, 90% of Americans support the inscription "In God We Trust" on U.S. coins...................

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves.. where are all the tea party Constitutionalists when you need them......or right, in church....... ;)

my own 2 cents.. nothing "federal" should have any of this.. it should be left to the states...... which brings up a interesting point.

seems to me we could have "The Christian State of S. Carolina" for example but it would not be allowed to "discriminate" based on religion...or they would not be part of the US.

somehow we got it all sort of arse backwards........at least as I understand it.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel05.html
O/T.... sigh...............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine



In this cartoon, Paine sleeps on a straw pillow wrapped in an American flag, inscribed "Vive L' America." In his pocket is a copy of Common Sense. On the headboard are his two "Guardian Angels": Charles James Fox and Joseph Priestley. An imp drops a French Revolutionary song as he flees through a window, draped in curtains decorated with the fleur-de-lis. Confronting Paine are the spirits of three judges who will try him. The presiding judge declares that Paine will die like a dog on the gallows. .............

Thomas Paine had passed the legendary limit of life. One by one most of his old friends and acquaintances had deserted him. Maligned on every side, execrated, shunned and abhorred – his virtues denounced as vices – his services forgotten – his character blackened, he preserved the poise and balance of his soul. He was a victim of the people, but his convictions remained unshaken. He was still a soldier in the army of freedom, and still tried to enlighten and civilize those who were impatiently waiting for his death. Even those who loved their enemies hated him, their friend – the friend of the whole world – with all their hearts. On the 8th of June, 1809, death came – Death, almost his only friend. At his funeral no pomp, no pageantry, no civic procession, no military display. In a carriage, a woman and her son who had lived on the bounty of the dead – on horseback, a Quaker, the humanity of whose heart dominated the creed of his head – and, following on foot, two negroes filled with gratitude – constituted the funeral cortege of Thomas Paine






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In October, 1992 the legislation was signed into law (PL102-407 & PL102-459) by President George H. W. Bush authorizing the construction, using private funds, of a memorial to Thomas Paine in "Area 1" of the grounds of the US Capitol. As of January 2011, the memorial has not yet been built.



Forum: General Talk 01-14-2012, 06:26 PM  
Bring on the Aristocrats..
Posted By jheu02
Replies: 17
Views: 1,981
I think they have the spelling wrong...shouldn't it be Bane Capital? ;)
Forum: General Talk 01-22-2012, 03:08 PM  
Made in America : Americans have their head stuck in the sand
Posted By stanleyk
Replies: 74
Views: 7,272
I've spent most of my life working in higher ed, my father was a college professor, my mother worked in Higher Ed, and my sister is a retired middle school teacher. I'd look at the parents. Grading is a joke, especially in middle class and upper middle class school districts. If a kid makes an F because they don't know the material it's the teacher's fault. It's not because they don't do homework or they don't study. Then the parents complain they are too busy. It's pretty comical. The kids know this so they work the system. Give it another 10 years and we'll be ranked even lower. Kid are kids. They would rather be playing their video games and texting their friends than studying. The last college I was at was an upscale 4 year private. Tuition was approx. $20K per year. A very large number of our students who scored high on their entrance exams because the parents paid upwards from $5k to coach them for the exam had to be placed in remedial Math and English courses. We used to laugh about it because...well there's just nothing else you can do. It's an extremely flawed system. One part of the problem is grades are viewed a meal tickets not as actually having amassed some kind of knowledge. Therefore the parents are only concerned about how much money their kid is going to make with his or her education. I gave up a long time ago in thinking this problem would ever be fixed. It will get worse.

I always laugh when I see this blamed on the teachers. Try giving some middle class kid in a lilly white suburb an F because he or she didn't crack the books before an exam. She how far that gets you. First of all the kid will probably get the grade changed and secondly you probably will be disciplined.

The first thing that needs to be done to fix this problem is to take local property taxes out of school funding. It gives the parents too much control over school boards and principals. I'd love to say our society needs to view education as a worthwhile goal itself exclusive of money, but wow....that would really be impossible.
Forum: General Talk 09-23-2011, 10:58 AM  
Anyone talking about Troy Davis execution last night?
Posted By les3547
Replies: 29
Views: 4,000
You are right of course.




Most people posting here seem more aware of the impact of specific policies than I am, and therefore are more qualified to analyze the effects of something like the three strikes law. I tend to focus on root causes over specifics, yet I think it is safe to say that even before the three strikes law the U.S. had more people in prison than just about any other developed country.

There are many formal philosophies of the world, America can claim sole authorship of just one: pragmatism. Though not exactly the principle of inquiry and account (applied principally to science) C.S. Peirce had in mind when he coined the term, some thinkers have generalized pramatist philosophy for broader application as “what works.”

It is a supremely relevant, and profound, question. Everything we do is meant to “work” in some way. You can see too that whatever we try, how we’ve imagined it will work is contrasted with what actually occurs; that with what actually occurs, there is what occurs in the short term and locally, and what occurs over time and broadly; also with what occurs there is what degree we honestly acknowledge how well what worked and didn’t work; finally, and maybe most importantly, there is how much we sincerely want what truly works broadly and over time over versus how much we want to do what we want to do whether it or not really works.

As I said, the thing that tends to capture my attention is root causes, including the most fundamental basis of what works. It seems clear that which works best is what is most in harmony with, or corresponds to, the way reality actually is. So the task for someone wanting to develop a long term, broadly beneficial course of action must also understand the foundations of reality. I say “foundations” because courses of action based on that are on the most solid ground, whereas (as law making and politics are today) courses of action that are based on (and often merely a reaction to) superficial conditions are far more likely to work in some limited way but cause as many or more other problems.

Many of the medicines drug companies provide come to mind. Beating your wife to relieve pent up anger works a little too, but is devastating in other ways. Shooting heroin “works” in that it does make one feel very, very good, but down the road it injures a person and others, and has broad consequences to happiness.

So does imprisoning people in barbaric conditions and/or executing them work? It does get them off the street, it does eliminate some evil-doers from society . . . but the overall consequences of our prison system does not indicate it works precisely because, as I claim, we are dealing with superficial conditions and haven’t grasped either root causes of crime or foundational solutions.

The most important part of the fix is to keep people from prison in the first place; that is where America can’t admit we have shamefully failed to grasp which of our courses of action do not correspond to reality’s roots. Understanding the steps that have led us to believe we are doing what works when really we are ruining our country is not easy to see.

Yes America stands for freedom, a great and wonderful thing that has made many think all America stands for is perfect. America is relatively rich with a powerful military, and that too has made many think all we do is right. But another very significant force in our society encourages and trains people to be competitive over being cooperative, and also to base one’s self worth on wealth and status (and sadly, race is still a factor). The long term and broad consequences of these beliefs are the issue.

A TV series here on a news channel (CNBC I think) called “American Greed” profiles cases that epitomize the American selfish-interest value which is causing us so much harm in broader ways. Some actually say greed and selfish (i.e., versus enlightened) self-interest is good, that it is practical, and have become expert sophists at cherry picking facts while obscuring the broader/long term consequences. They preach to a poorly educated citizenry (growing evermore ignorant as education declines in the US) who understand little about root conditions or what history has shown works or what the rest of the world is proving works socially. These Americans who live in this little bubble of delusion reject or ignore any fact that gets in the way of their exalted view of the “American Way” also get to vote, and that is a HUGE problem for the more enlightened minority.



So what would work to keep people out of prison in the first place? Americans who believe in greed and competition above service to and cooperation with fellow humans have to admit it does not pragmatically work for a society. We have to recognize the plight of the poor cannot be solved without an education program that teaches students to believe in themselves, and teaches them how to learn (because many poor doubt themselves and have not been exposed to good learning habits before they get to school age). We need a very, very powerful program that sets up in inner city and other poverty areas which works with kids from grades perschool through 8 . . . full attention, full protection, the very highest standards of education, massive funds and education materials, the very best teachers, after school programs, tutoring, meals, medical care . . . i.e., teach them before and more powerfully than the neighborhood (and sometimes home life) influences which are competing for their minds and souls.

This investment is proven to work (such as demonstrated by the Freedom Writers Foundation, and there the repairs started relatively late at the high school level). It “works” to instill good learning skills and self confidence, it graduates educated students more likely to go on to higher education. That in turn means rather than selling drugs or joining gangs or taking frustration out on society, we have productive, contributing citizens; we produce creators, builders, and caregivers instead of non-productive, destructive, self-absorbed or apathetic citizens who do nothing but cost us a fortune to police, institutionalize, and insure against.

Will the selfish greedy me-first Americans wake up to see, before our culture comes crashing down, that we must, through good efficient government investment/private donations, set up that which lifts all citizens up to productivity? I still have hopes, yet . . .
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