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Forum: General Talk 06-25-2012, 12:40 PM  
Corporate Profits Just Hit An All-Time High, Wages Just Hit An All-Time Low Read mor
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 7
Views: 1,656
as our ole twice elected gov. said.. Divide and Conquer..... ;)
John Nichols: Scott Walker's Divide-and-Conquer Strategy | The Nation

Pretty good for a college drop out eh..........
Forum: General Talk 06-25-2012, 08:11 AM  
Corporate Profits Just Hit An All-Time High, Wages Just Hit An All-Time Low Read mor
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 7
Views: 1,656
Corporate Profits Just Hit An All-Time High, Wages Just Hit An All-Time Low - Business Insider

In short, our current system and philosophy is creating a country of a few million overlords and 300+ million serfs.

That's not what has made America a great country. It's also not what most people think America is supposed to be about.

So we might want to rethink that.

Meanwhile, if you want to know more about what's wrong with the economy, flip through these charts:

Read more: Corporate Profits Just Hit An All-Time High, Wages Just Hit An All-Time Low - Business Insider
Okay, Folks, Let's Put Aside Politics And Look At The Facts... [CHARTS] - Business Insider




Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-08-2009, 08:35 PM  
RiceHigh's Pentax Blog
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 194
Views: 33,253
You know 1/10th of the story...... at best.
http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh/A_Letter_to_the_CEO_of_Pentax_Corporation.html


Now explain to me how someone can get banned from 3 forums (dp review, steves digicams and here) and asked to leave a 4th (Photozone) without somehow bringing this on himself.... He's a pariah created from his own stubbornness to listen to facts.. I spent over 2 years trying to convince him a light meter should not produce a grey card peak at 126 RGB but refused to recognize his own mistake nor correct it.. eventually the best I got is "so what"...
You have a very limited understanding of the history of RH. He now has his censored world. Leave him to it....

this whole "thesis" is, though interesting, is garbage since it's based on entirely wrong premises..
http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh/home.html
Now, we can get all the measurbation data that we, the measurbators, want. In the above screenshot, we can learn that the grey's peak is at 133. The peak of the central "peak" can be interpreted as the majority of value in the range (or the "mode" in statistical term). So, I would regard the exposure result is highly accurate, i.e. only 5 levels brighter than the absolute correct value of 128.
Sorry, he's just wrong and will never admit it.....
http://www.libraw.org/articles/zone-v-in-digital.html
Forum: General Talk 12-18-2012, 02:14 PM  
Who does NRA work for?
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 6
Views: 1,578
Just depend what you call "history".............






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Yet we’ve also always had gun control. The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.

For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the “individual mandate” that has proved so controversial in President Obama’s health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musters—where their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls.

Opposition to gun control was what drove the black militants to visit the California capitol with loaded weapons in hand. The Black Panther Party had been formed six months earlier, in Oakland, by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Like many young African Americans, Newton and Seale were frustrated with the failed promise of the civil-rights movement. Brown v. Board of Education, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were legal landmarks, but they had yet to deliver equal opportunity. In Newton and Seale’s view, the only tangible outcome of the civil-rights movement had been more violence and oppression, much of it committed by the very entity meant to protect and serve the public: the police.

Inspired by the teachings of Malcolm X, Newton and Seale decided to fight back. Before he was assassinated in 1965, Malcolm X had preached against Martin Luther King Jr.’s brand of nonviolent resistance. Because the government was “either unable or unwilling to protect the lives and property” of blacks, he said, they had to defend themselves “by whatever means necessary.” Malcolm X illustrated the idea for Ebony magazine by posing for photographs in suit and tie, peering out a window with an M-1 carbine semiautomatic in hand. Malcolm X and the Panthers described their right to use guns in self-defense in constitutional terms. “Article number two of the constitutional amendments,” Malcolm X argued, “provides you and me the right to own a rifle or a shotgun.”

Guns became central to the Panthers’ identity, as they taught their early recruits that “the gun is the only thing that will free us—gain us our liberation.” They bought some of their first guns with earnings from selling copies of Mao Zedong’s Little Red Book to students at the University of California at Berkeley. In time, the Panther arsenal included machine guns; an assortment of rifles, handguns, explosives, and grenade launchers; and “boxes and boxes of ammunition,” recalled Elaine Brown, one of the party’s first female members, in her 1992 memoir. Some of this matériel came from the federal government: one member claimed he had connections at Camp Pendleton, in Southern California, who would sell the Panthers anything for the right price. One Panther bragged that, if they wanted, they could have bought an M48 tank and driven it right up the freeway.

Along with providing classes on black nationalism and socialism, Newton made sure recruits learned how to clean, handle, and shoot guns. Their instructors were sympathetic black veterans, recently home from Vietnam. For their “righteous revolutionary struggle,” the Panthers were trained, as well as armed, however indirectly, by the U.S. government.

Civil-rights activists, even those committed to nonviolent resistance, had long appreciated the value of guns for self-protection. Martin Luther King Jr. applied for a permit to carry a concealed firearm in 1956, after his house was bombed. His application was denied,



The Secret History of Guns - Adam Winkler - The Atlantic

timing is IRONIC isn't it...........



(The Gun Control Act of 1968)

SEEMS we were deciding WHO should have their 2nd amendment rights... doesn't it......





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Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He called guns a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” In a later press conference, Reagan said he didn’t “know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded.” The Mulford Act, he said, “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”




LOL..................





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Indisputably, for much of American history, gun-control measures, like many other laws, were used to oppress African Americans. The South had long prohibited blacks, both slave and free, from owning guns. In the North, however, at the end of the Civil War, the Union army allowed soldiers of any color to take home their rifles. Even blacks who hadn’t served could buy guns in the North, amid the glut of firearms produced for the war. President Lincoln had promised a “new birth of freedom,” but many blacks knew that white Southerners were not going to go along easily with such a vision. As one freedman in Louisiana recalled, “I would say to every colored soldier, ‘Bring your gun home.’”

After losing the Civil War, Southern states quickly adopted the Black Codes, laws designed to reestablish white supremacy by dictating what the freedmen could and couldn’t do. One common provision barred blacks from possessing firearms. To enforce the gun ban, white men riding in posses began terrorizing black communities. In January 1866, Harper’s Weekly reported that in Mississippi, such groups had “seized every gun and pistol found in the hands of the (so called) freedmen” in parts of the state. The most infamous of these disarmament posses, of course, was the Ku Klux Klan.








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The Fourteenth Amendment illustrates a common dynamic in America’s gun culture: extremism stirs a strong reaction. The aggressive Southern effort to disarm the freedmen prompted a constitutional amendment to better protect their rights. A hundred years later, the Black Panthers’ brazen insistence on the right to bear arms led whites, including conservative Republicans, to support new gun control. Then the pendulum swung back. The gun-control laws of the late 1960s, designed to restrict the use of guns by urban black leftist radicals, fueled the rise of the present-day gun-rights movement—one that, in an ironic reversal, is predominantly white, rural, and politically conservative.



In the 1920s and ’30s, the NRA was at the forefront of legislative efforts to enact gun control. The organization’s president at the time was Karl T. Frederick, a Princeton- and Harvard-educated lawyer known as “the best shot in America”—a title he earned by winning three gold medals in pistol-shooting at the 1920 Summer Olympic Games. As a special consultant to the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws, Frederick helped draft the Uniform Firearms Act, a model of state-level gun-control legislation. (Since the turn of the century, lawyers and public officials had increasingly sought to standardize the patchwork of state laws. The new measure imposed more order—and, in most cases, far more restrictions.)

Frederick’s model law had three basic elements. The first required that no one carry a concealed handgun in public without a permit from the local police. A permit would be granted only to a “suitable” person with a “proper reason for carrying” a firearm. Second, the law required gun dealers to report to law enforcement every sale of a handgun, in essence creating a registry of small arms. Finally, the law imposed a two-day waiting period on handgun sales.

The NRA today condemns every one of these provisions as a burdensome and ineffective infringement on the right to bear arms. Frederick, however, said in 1934 that he did “not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” The NRA’s executive vice president at the time, Milton A. Reckord, told a congressional committee that his organization was “absolutely favorable to reasonable legislation.” According to Frederick, the NRA “sponsored” the Uniform Firearms Act and promoted it nationwide. Highlighting the political strength of the NRA even back then, a 1932 Virginia Law Review article reported that laws requiring a license to carry a concealed weapon were already “in effect in practically every jurisdiction.”

When Congress was considering the first significant federal gun law of the 20th century—the National Firearms Act of 1934, which imposed a steep tax and registration requirements on “gangster guns” like machine guns and sawed-off shotguns—the NRA endorsed the law. Karl Frederick and the NRA did not blindly support gun control; indeed, they successfully pushed to have similar prohibitive taxes on handguns stripped from the final bill, arguing that people needed such weapons to protect their homes. Yet the organization stood firmly behind what Frederick called “reasonable, sensible, and fair legislation.”

One thing conspicuously missing from Frederick’s comments about gun control was the Second Amendment. When asked during his testimony on the National Firearms Act whether the proposed law violated “any constitutional provision,” he responded, “I have not given it any study from that point of view.” In other words, the president of the NRA hadn’t even considered whether the most far-reaching federal gun-control legislation in history conflicted with the Second Amendment. Preserving the ability of law-abiding people to have guns, Frederick would write elsewhere, “lies in an enlightened public sentiment and in intelligent legislative action. It is not to be found in the Constitution.”

In the 1960s, the NRA once again supported the push for new federal gun laws. After the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963 by Lee Harvey Oswald, who had bought his gun through a mail-order ad in the NRA’s American Rifleman magazine, Franklin Orth, then the NRA’s executive vice president, testified in favor of banning mail-order rifle sales. “We do not think that any sane American, who calls himself an American, can object to placing into this bill the instrument which killed the president of the United States.” Orth and the NRA didn’t favor stricter proposals, like national gun registration, but when the final version of the Gun Control Act was adopted in 1968, Orth stood behind the legislation. While certain features of the law, he said, “appear unduly restrictive and unjustified in their application to law-abiding citizens, the measure as a whole appears to be one that the sportsmen of America can live with.”



BACK TO Scalia............and judicial activism........

This paragraph from the pen of Justice Scalia, the foremost proponent of constitutional originalism, was astounding. True, the Founders imposed gun control, but they had no laws resembling Scalia’s list of Second Amendment exceptions. They had no laws banning guns in sensitive places, or laws prohibiting the mentally ill from possessing guns, or laws requiring commercial gun dealers to be licensed. Such restrictions are products of the 20th century. Justice Scalia, in other words, embraced a living Constitution. In this, Heller is a fine reflection of the ironies and contradictions—and the selective use of the past—that run throughout America’s long history with guns.

Stick a fork in it it's done.............. ;)
Forum: General Talk 12-14-2012, 07:03 AM  
Where will you go when P&R closes?
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 102
Views: 7,255
Thanks btw.........

Problem usually is is you either are 1)preaching to the choir or 2)fighting semantics and ideology tooth and nail.. Places like this where p/r is a sideshow are just more fun and usually more enlightening..

not to mention in a sense the group has a "common bond" to wrap uncommon ideas around.........


Like the difference between talking to an extended family vs a street corner soapbox........... ;)

also is sort of a "resting place" (as others have pointed out) for those just not in to discussion the latest Pentax camera related "crisis".........

As most may have noticed I have been here since 2006 .... and joined for camera and related discussions.. I currently just use my *ist-D (care to reopen discussions on the stupidest camera name...:)) for home snaps and a K200 for work related purposes.. i.e. advertising..

But current tech discussions and the ENDLESS discussion on FF has lost most relevence nd importance to me.. And like politics can be equal to hitting ones head against a wall..

Ther is no differnce but subject..........

Adam can do what he wants.. his sandbox.. Just hope it is his choice..or his idea of the right thing..

I'm certainly not going to go completely away.. never been a quiiter.. and there are too many that I consider relevant to me. for one reason or another..

But photography has to become more important in MY life.. not being blessed w/ gobs of discretionary money to buy the latest toy.. or to buy the latest overpriced lens (assembled in some low wage 3rd world) and compare it to someone elses overpriced lens..
I've never posted to win a popularity contest.. just to bring ideas/facts/theories to light and to HOPE to make things just a teeny tiny bit different..I certainly never expect miracles.. (except maybe the cold fusion thing)

Pentax was special because they were "Japanese old school" and had history..and were the perennial overachiever and under-hyped...and different.

Anyone know if the Pentax Museum has been sold off?? Does anyone care???

From my dpreview comment;





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Re: Pentax museum closing after 40 years
In reply to markolw, Jun 30, 2009

If true, as it seems to be, that is very sad. Though not unexpected from the bean counting HOYA organization.
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360 minutes from the prime meridian. (-5375min, 3.55sec) 1093' above sea level.
(my favorite quote)
'The exposure meter is calibrated to some clearly defined standards and the user needs to adjust his working method and his subject matter to these values. It does not help to suppose all kinds of assumptions that do not exist.'
Erwin Puts



Funny though.. when I bought my first NEW camera I had limited my choice between a Ricoh (Kr-5 I believe) and Pentax Super Program. Picked the SP.. Circle of life??

It's not all about cameras, and religion, and politics.. but how we perceive it.. but perception should be based on facts.. throw in a dash of ideology/history and that's ok. It is how we function best.. ;)

blah blah blah for the morning........ ;)

Economics for the 99%

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/content/article/81-more-blog-posts-from-...ics-for-the-99





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You think to yourself, this guy is getting ridiculous. Sure, the massive network of expressways, airports and public buildings may in principle be assets and worth far more

than the federal debt. But a house you can sell. To whom would the federal government sell Kennedy Airport in New York City or the 2500 mile I-40 expressway from North Carolina to southern California? Well, quite a queue of buyers would show up double quick, as the airport privatizations in Britain demonstrated. We do not usually think of these public structures as assets because federal, state and local governments do not in most cases charge us to use them. We can be confident that the Massachusetts Turnpike, which does charge, would attract corporate buyers like bees to honey, eager to snatch up that asset, jack up the tolls and drive home with a tidy profit.

A federally built and owned road is an asset (like a private home), and it could be sold to a private buyer ("privatized"). But, even when the government borrows for a sound purpose, the debt that results represents a burden for future generations, does it not? Actually, no. The present debt does not represent a burden on future generations. How can that be? No future burden because every debt is simultaneously a credit, and every asset also a liability (Accounting 101). A US federal government bond, the form our public debt takes, is an asset for he or she that buys it. Interest payments on the public debt (or any debt) involve an income transfer, not between generations, but between those who pay taxes and those who receive the interest payments funded by those taxes.

Consider the simple, if slightly silly case, in which we distribute the federal debt among households proportionally to the taxes households pay. Each tax paying household receives interest to compensate for the tax that funds the interest. No burden there, on future generations or anyone. The example is not totally silly, because this was close to the situation at the end of World War II, a conflict financed by sales of "war bonds" across income classes.

Even today, over twenty percent of federal bonds can be found in the Social Security Fund (bought by our compulsory contributions), and these pay incomes to the retired. Federal government agencies hold another twenty percent. The interest on this second twenty percent of the debt merely shifts funds from one federal pocket to another. "Off the top", so to speak, forty percent of the debt involves no burden. More important, the income distribution effect of the interest on that forty percent is progressive (Social Security has been called the largest poverty reduction program in American history). As for the remaining sixty percent, that requires a Heresy column of its own. Does it follow that governments should only borrow to invest? If so, the federal government currently acts in a very irresponsible manner. The budget deficit subtracting out investment expenditure is about five percent national income. Should we demand that the federal government behave like a responsible household with its finances? Strange as it may seem, that current expenditure deficit does not differ from what households do.



Forum: General Talk 12-13-2012, 03:39 PM  
Where will you go when P&R closes?
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 102
Views: 7,255
Not sure.. facebook bores me............
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.seussalias

This is not THE ONLY place but it WAS the nicest............. (APPARENTLY that is a matter of opinion)

Political forums are always sooo one sided......................

Politics is like discussing "BIG" pixels vs little pixels.. and just as mis-understood.......

John Sheey
Forum: General Talk 12-10-2012, 10:28 AM  
5 biggest threats to the middle class
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 10
Views: 1,357
worth a look see..............

5 biggest threats to the middle class - Salon.com
Forum: General Talk 11-21-2012, 04:04 PM  
China's Ghost Cities
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 26
Views: 2,921
I agree.. substitute US for China and military spending for malls...you can substitue "civil works" for anything you want except a casino.. ;)
Forum: General Talk 11-18-2012, 08:36 PM  
It’s four years after the crimes
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 15
Views: 2,154
Maybe Bush should have just invaded Congress........at least he would have a legitimate WMD story...........

too little to late for baby bush........








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Substantially increase by at least $440 billion, the financial commitment made by the government sponsored enterprises involved in the secondary mortgage market, specifically targeted toward the minority market;

Launching twenty-five different local initiatives across the nation, geared toward eliminating the specific homeownership barriers faced by minority families in those communities;

Raising $750 million in below-market-rate investments by 2007, which will work in collaboration with local homeownership initiatives and be targeted to heavily minority program areas;

Pursuing strategic partnerships in 20 top housing markets between homebuilders, lenders, local officials, and community leaders to develop approaches that address the local challenges to building homes for minority families living in urban centers;

Establishing faith-based housing partnerships between the participants and at least 100 churches, mosques, synagogues, and other faith-based institutions;

Aggressively developing new mortgage products so that conventional market alternatives are available to combat the predatory loan products that are disproportionately targeted to minorities;

Creating new mortgage products to meet the unique needs of recent immigrants;



Soo what happened???





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Bush said" That's why I've challenged the industry leaders all across the country to get after it for this goal, to stay focused, to make sure that we achieve a more secure America, by achieving the goal of 5.5 million new minority home owners. I call it America's home ownership challenge.

And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system -- I introduced two of the leaders here today -- they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It's a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts."

(please note that bush appoints Leland and Franklin to their jobs at fannie mae and freddie mac so when he asks for 440 BILLION that is basically a presidential order)

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gruss gut...let me correct you. 1) fannie mae does not make loans. They buy loans that banks have already made. 2) barney frank does not work as a loan officer at a bank so he is not to blame. 3) The govt can not force a bank to make a bad loan or a risky loan.

3 years ago
RJC, When state attorney generals started to crack down on mortgage fraud and predatory lending, the bush treasury dept stepped in and declared "only the federal govt can police/regulate banks". Then all 50 states sued the bush treasury dept and their OCC - office of comproller of the currency - and lost. Bush ORDERED all 50 states to stop arresting and prosecuting people for illegal mortgage activity. Here is an article called "Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime - How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers" which said "Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02



Forum: General Talk 11-16-2012, 09:02 AM  
Russia rules the air once again
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 21
Views: 2,381
apparently Russia is following Mittens "economic stimulus" plan...............
Forum: General Talk 11-16-2012, 07:29 AM  
Hostess Closing
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 144
Views: 9,162
Best you read the whole story...............funny thing.. Teamsters "conceded".. then (not even MENTIONED in the August 13, 2012 issue of Fortune.) the bakers took a whack...
so your global "union bashing" holds no water really..


And the meat;





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MEPPs, which grew in popularity back in the union glory days of the 1950s and '60s, were designed for companies within an industry to share pension burdens. There are nearly 1,500 MEPPs in the country, covering more than 10 million workers. These mammoth defined-benefit plans -- employers, not workers, make the contributions -- were especially attractive to unions, as they allowed workers to move easily between companies.

Trouble with MEPPs is, if some employers go out of business, the remaining companies have to pick up the shortfall in funding benefits. When there are too few employers left standing, the fund is in trouble. According to a March research report by Credit Suisse, MEPPs are now underfunded by $369 billion. A third of the 40 MEPPs to which Hostess contributes are among the most underfunded plans in the country.

At the bargaining table, week after week, Hostess and the Teamsters have gone at it over the MEPPs, which Hostess contends are at the heart of its woes. Perella Weinberg's Michael Kramer has squared up against Harry Wilson, the financial adviser retained by the Teamsters. Monarch's Herenstein has been there. So has a representative from Silver Point. Though all are cordial -- somebody once served Hostess snacks -- they've yet to achieve a middle ground.
Gregory Rayburn, Hostess CEO

Gregory Rayburn, Hostess CEO

Hostess has proposed having workers themselves contribute to a single pension plan or, alternatively, switching to a pension arrangement in which Hostess would contribute to only a handful of MEPPs. In the latter proposal, Hostess's annual contributions would go down from the required $100 million to $25 million or so. (If Hostess is allowed to pull out of the MEPPs, the plans would have claims against the company, but as unsecured creditors they would come away with little or nothing.)

While the Teamsters have rejected that proposal, they've indicated a willingness to accept reduced contributions -- but only with the current MEPP structure in place. In April the Teamsters offered a pension holiday until next spring, and then a contribution level of 45% to 60% over the remaining three years of the collective-bargaining agreement. Hostess says that even that half a loaf is untenable. In May the bankruptcy judge appeared to share that view, ruling the current pension arrangement "creates too much uncertainty for any entity willing to commit substantial amounts of capital … to turn this company around."



75 mil per year= how many overpriced executives that , pretty obviously, couldn't do their job?????
i'm beginning to believe "uncertainty" is code for NOT A SURE THING.. not not likely to happen.......
Forum: General Talk 11-15-2012, 09:48 AM  
What have the Republicans learned?
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 215
Views: 13,888
Actually lets put a face on the "perceived" differences using coffee...

A liberal .. who wants a cup of coffee brews a pot.. leaves pot for others..
A conservative brews pot.. says he "built it" and takes it into his office..

:)


It is that simple... ;)

You can argue all day on who gets the beans.. who opened the borders to allow them who grew them ect.. and all the "systems" in place to bring the infrastructure to the pot...
Forum: General Talk 11-14-2012, 07:22 AM  
Donald Trump: 465,000 Sign Petition for Macy's to Fire Him
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 12
Views: 1,290
Forum: General Talk 11-13-2012, 03:59 PM  
Face it: Mitt Romney was a crappy Christmas sweater
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 2
Views: 986
Forum: General Talk 11-11-2012, 06:37 AM  
The Good News Is......................
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 72
Views: 5,008
"Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House. After all, while Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt and George W. Bush doubled it again, each Republican was rewarded with a second term in office. But as the Gallup polling data show, concern over the federal deficit hasn't been this high since Democratic budget balancer Bill Clinton was in office. All of which suggest the Republicans' born-again disdain for deficits ranks among the greatest - and most successful - political double-standards in recent memory.

Reagan Proved Deficits Don't Matter* | Crooks and Liars
Forum: General Talk 11-06-2012, 12:12 PM  
Enjoy Your ACA Paycut
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 520
Views: 27,804
It depends.. a coworker of mine stopped working when between him and his wife he ended up only clearing about $30 for a week of full time work...because of daycare costs..
My boss though he was a slacker.. I thought he made a lot of sense..

So ..it depends... IF you give up say.. $200/mo just because you would lose $100 taxes I'd just consider them a bit touched...........especially if it was a "desk job".. nowe if they were a steel worker or a high risk job I may change my opinion ;)

Of course there choice is weighted by what they consider their self worth.,..
Forum: General Talk 11-02-2012, 03:45 PM  
Barack Obama vs James Buchanan
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 50
Views: 5,017
Could it be Congress blocked every (or most) proposals that Obama thought would be a shoe in???

Whether or not you like the man???? Actually I've learned to dislike the Boehner/O'Connell/Ryan/Cantors of the world a lot more than I "like" Obama............though I certainly don't dislike him, nor think he hasn't tried to be a centrist.

from my POV Obama is a compromise but one has to draw a line somewhere................
Forum: General Talk 11-02-2012, 12:21 PM  
Barack Obama vs James Buchanan
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 50
Views: 5,017
there is no "inability to pay it back" .. Technically the US doesn't have to "borrow" at all.. You can argue the "foreign borrowers" may not want our money.. but there never is not a way to generate a payment.. when you print your own..

debt ownership:





See the teeny tiny slice of "foreign ownership".............. ;)

China best estimate .. 23% of 57%

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22331.pdf

FUNNY:
Forum: General Talk 11-02-2012, 07:52 AM  
Republicans vs. Math
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 19
Views: 2,441
Forum: General Talk 10-29-2012, 07:00 AM  
Why No Criticism of Obama
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 125
Views: 9,331
More like a narrow band of tolerance.. but fair enough please do define your "broad" political parameters..

But to me you do seem to have narrow political parameters .. and do not really care to define them..

i'll start.. Bush/Cheney are war criminals
Romney is a flip flopping out of touch rich white guy who's business experience actually disqualify him from being a president (US is NOT nor for the sake of citizens should EVER be run as such)

Obama is a centrist and too pragmatic for my taste..Romney (and most of the current rep. party) are just to much in favor of a plutocracy.and are selling snake oil to the masses (i.e tea party)

70% of our economy is based on consumer spending and neither "gets it" though Romny/Ryan policies will make it worse..

Prejudice plays into the current election.

Based on a reading or the Mormon "prophecies" and it's basic tenants I do not trust him.. and neither does one of his own.. Mr. Reid (which definitely transcends pure party affiliation and is therefore more "scarey"). Theocracy is NOT a founding principal of this country..

Gov. doesn't need to tax to spend, there is no bankruptcy, QE targeted the wrong segment of the problem.

Medicare/soc sec can never actually go broke... any more than can the military spending (5 trillion and not one cent paid for in over 10 years tells ME something)

Romneys "moral directive" is for the 30's not the 2030's..

The current trouble and polarization is due to the fact both parties are half wrong.. yet one must choose which is more likely to cause the least amount of pain

On foreign policy Romney exhibits the "ugly American syndrome" and is therefore unqualified for the most important part of a presidents job.

He was gov. of Mass. and they will not vote for him in the majority.. He was born in MI and most likely the same thing there.. Says something to me..

I could go on expanding my "narrow parameters" but I believe it is your turn.............

current silly idea......

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/mitt-romney-in-2011-we-c...relief/264206/

Mitt Romney said America shouldn't be in the business of providing federal disaster relief and that it would be better for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's functions to be handled by individual states or even the private sector.






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Queried directly on the topic by CNN's John King during the June 13, 2011 Republican presidential primary debate at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire, Romney said the federal government "cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids."



IF the Fed.. with it's money printing machine can't afford it HOW are states and priv. going to solve this? Charge per rescue.. Check credit histories before "helping" rely on the Mormon "storehouses"?.. THIS is INSANITY....in my narrow parameter of thinking.........
Forum: General Talk 10-28-2012, 07:31 PM  
Why No Criticism of Obama
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 125
Views: 9,331
That is the most whiny bs I've ever read here.......................... Remember gingeM? AFAIKT they left on their own.. but who knows..
When I read stuff like the above it all looks like cop out.. or a whine because you apparently think you "can't win" i.e to get everyone to believe like you...
I personally prefer everyone think for themselves.. or LOOK deeper into it.. regardless whether they agree w/ me or not.. BUT it certainly wouldn't stop me from presenting what I think interesting from my perspective.. and throwing a bit of 2 cents into it..

I've posted articles from all over the political/social spectrum...... I just avoid those that lack facts or are a bunch of rah rah jingoism crap... IF it eliminates "conservative sources" best to ask why than shooting the messenger.. :)


so lets take a look .. just for fun.. Random pick (just went to redstate........

The Man Without A Mandate | RedState

My take WHO CARES.. what does it mean?? Nothing. Just a bunch of cheap statistics that mean nothing to the more educated...

Just because something never happened (a re-election w/ a minority (and currently it certainly is poll wise not only iffy but if true a very very very statistically small outlier) doesn't "make it bad" as they imply.........



Weinermobile Ryan......... I'm sorry he is from my state..and is still an idiot..............from my point of view.
Forum: General Talk 10-26-2012, 12:11 PM  
The single biggest issue in the coming Presidential election
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 11
Views: 1,171
Like Scalia completely throwing out the Constitution because he found it "embarrassing" that we couldn't immediately declare a new president.. with the rule of law OR "principal" e getting in the way.......



Retgardles of who would or wouldn't have won... his decision is generally accepted to violate his own principals .. for whatever reason.. supporting Bush or just supporting no "inconvience" in an election.. A tragedy no matter how you look at it...........
Forum: General Talk 10-17-2012, 04:54 PM  
Debate 2 to the incumbent
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 64
Views: 5,194
don't forget his idea of "letting taxpayers choose which deductions they will use".. and call it "simplification".....
Forum: General Talk 10-14-2012, 02:59 PM  
Sheriff Joe Arpaio suggests Obama's birth certificate is a forgery
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 26
Views: 2,691
Who cares.. After the "fake" WMD's.. loss of personal liberties w/ the "Patriot Act" (worst name EVER) and continuation of the "emergency powers" there are MORE IMPORTANT things to discuss..

Tell me again how "Mittens" will fix this "stuff"???

All I here is crickets.. chirp chirp.. or sabres rattling..........






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Many variants of this exist, but the earliest known incident of such a comment appears to be a partial quote from James Waterman Wise, Jr., reported in a 1936 issue of The Christian Century that in a recent address here before the liberal John Reed club said that Hearst and Coughlin are the two chief exponents of fascism in America. If fascism comes, he added, it will not be identified with any "shirt" movement, nor with an "insignia," but it will probably be "wrapped up in the American flag and heralded as a plea for liberty and preservation of the constitution."[1]



The Christian Century, Volume 53, Feb 5, 1936, p 245
Throw in the Mormon "Bible" and all is complete.............Theocracy.........
Forum: General Talk 09-16-2012, 08:19 AM  
Policies, Not Mitt, Are Their Biggest Problem
Posted By jeffkrol
Replies: 30
Views: 3,187
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