Show me one comment from this thread where someone said that you can't get excellent results with Pentax gear.
Hello, what this has to do with the need of third party lenses in Pentax mount??? If Tamron/Sigma will return to Pentax, then a K3 or a K1 with a Sigma/Tamron lens can be way cheaper than a K3 or a K1 with a Pentax lens. So, again, forget about your endless debate about Pentax vs others.
Again, what this has to do with the need for third party lenses in Pentax mount??? But since you mention that, you can't deny that for the price you paid for 150-450mm I bought a camera and a lens and I still have 500$ in my pocket, while you have to spend another 1800$ to buy the camera for that lens. Yes, you will have more details in the images taken with K1 given the fact that you have more resolution and no AA filter, but, this advantage is noticeable if you like to pixel peep or if you want to print at the size of an wall. Otherwise... read the little story from bellow.
And if you do the math, a K1 with the Tamron 15-30mm lens, the Tamron 24-70mm lens, the Tamron 70-200mm lens and the Tamron 150-600mm lens would be WAY CHEAPER than a K1 with the Pentax 15-30mm lens, the Pentax 24-70mm lens, the Pentax 70-200mm lens and the Pentax 150-600mm lens. You do realise this, don't you? All I want (and some others too, as you realised by reading some comments from this thread) is to have choices and Sigma/Tamron would give us choices if they choose to come back to Pentax.
Why you're justify your purchases? No one said anything about which system is better than the other. This thread is about the need of third party support for Pentax (not for other brand), 150-600mm lenses included.
If you are a professional photographer then I agree that genuine lenses are the best solution on the short and also on the long term. But again, having support from third party lenses it's a bad thing?
Let me tell you a story since it happened 2 days ago, in my vacation (I'm in the south of Italy now). There was an english guy with 2 kids (12 or 13 years old) at a terace and the kids were fighing about which phone is better as general purpose but also about which is better for taking pictures. Next to them (and also next to me) there was an asian guy (he had an Olympus camera) with his wife. He heard those 2 kids fighting and at some point he said to the kids:
- Excuse me, why do you fighting about?
One of the kids said: - My brother doesn't understand that my phone is better and has a better camera than his phone.
The asian guy said: - Can we make a bet? I will take an image of the harbour with your brother's phone, you take an image with your phone and we ask some random people from the street which one is better. We are not allowed to go 2 feet away from the table. If I win, you make peace with your brother and also you will shake hands. If I lose, I will give you 20 euro.
The kid said OK, and then the asian guy ask the kid's father for permision to procede with the bet and he promised him it won't take more than 5-6 minutes. The father was hilarious, saying: - My wife is shopping, so you can "borrow" the kids for at least 2 hours. :D
Anyway, the asian guy took an image with the harbour by framing the harbour in between 2 little palm trees and the kid took a simple image of the harbour. They asked about 5 random people which image is better. All of them said that the asian guy's image was the better one because of the composition, despite the fact that the difference in IQ was visible between those 2 images (this reminds me about the fact that only us, photographers, are looking at noise, sharp and other technical things; regular people are not interested in technical things). The asian guy took 20 euro out from this wallet and gave it to the kid. And then he said that he has to go, but before that, he gave to the kid an email adress and told him that he is certain that he will send him a better image of the harbour.
The father of the kid ask the asian guy why he gave to his kid 20 euro if the kid lost the bet. The asian guy said:
- Well, look at what we accomplished:
1. You don't have to yell at them anymore to be quite
2. You can drink your beer without seeing them fighting over not important things.
3. If you look at your kid you can see that he is focused on being creative rather than being focused on the phone specs.
That being said, why do I have to spend more money if I love the IQ of the Sigma 150-600mm lens? Am I a professional photographer? No, I'm not. Am I printing my images larger than 80-90cm? No, I'm not. Does my images with Sigma 150-600mm are so bad that I can not show them? No, they are sharp, with good colors (at least in my opinion). :)
So, again, why Sigma and Tamron lenses can't be a good option for Pentax users? Just because there is a Pentax 150-450mm lens on the market?
Let me put it another way. Pentax has the 360 FGZ flash and the 540FGZ flash. What your reaction would be if Metz and Sigma decides that starting from tomorow they will not release anymore in Pentax mount the Metz 44 flash, or the Metz 52 flash, or Metz 58 flash, o Metz 64 flash, or Sigma 610 flash? You will say that you don't care because you have Pentax flashes? If you do say this, what others have to say? I think they would be upset and not because the Pentax flashes aren't good, but because the lack of choices is not as good as you think.
I really don't care the name of the camera or the name of the lens or the name of the flash I use, as long as they give me good result with less money to spend. I'm not married with Canon, Pentax, Sony or whatever... It's about having choices and Sigma/Tamron can have a big impact for Pentaxians if they come back to Pentax.
My same conclution? I do want to see in the next 2 or 3 years Tamron and Sigma coming back to Pentax so that us (the consumers) can have more choices.
