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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 12-03-2012, 05:39 PM  
*PETITION* Lets put an end to the crazy online Pentax lens prices in the US!
Posted By Adam
Replies: 550
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It's time to put the online MSRP thing to an end. Back in April, through a "Unilateral Pricing Policy" (UPP), Pentax USA forced online retailers to start selling Pentax lenses at full MSRP rather than the then-lower MAP prices. Refer to the article below for an overview of the price jumps. Some lenses nearly doubled in price!

Brutal Pentax Lens Price Increase: 15-90% - Pentax Camera News & Rumors - PentaxForums.com

Since this change, online sales of Pentax lenses have virtually come to a standstill because of the high, artificially-inflated prices. I'm sure you guys can testify to that, especially if you opted to use the Marketplace or get Sigma lenses rather than new Pentax ones. Just because the DA* 16-50mm has an MSRP of $1500 doesn't mean that anyone in the right mind will buy a used copy at the new high price: in fact, used Pentax lens prices are generally lower than the old MAP prices.

All of a sudden, this Black Friday weekend, the UPP restriction was temporarily lifted, and Pentax lens prices fell sharply for a few days (but some were still higher than the old prices). Here's a little insight into what gear really started moving:



In just one day, well over 100 new Pentax lenses were sold to PF members alone. That's more that the total number sold to PF members after the introduction of the UPP but before Black Friday.

So what good is this UPP thing doing? None at all. When it originally came about, Ned Bunnell, former President of Pentax USA, blogged about the UPP, saying that the main goal of the policy was to protect smaller brick-and-mortar stores so that they don't have to compete with really low online prices. Well, that's great and all, but you can count on your fingers how many such stores there are. And the funny thing is that if you walk into any one of these stores, you'll see the old prices. The same applies if you call B&H or Adorama: you'll generally get the old prices as long as you mention it (and if you walk in to the store, there's no question about it) ;) On top of all this, rumors have it the Pentax USA distributor requires retailers to place large orders, which causes smaller stores to lose interest in carrying the brand, given the tiny demand that there is for Pentax to begin with.

The UPP isn't going to change the fact that the largest audience for Pentax lenses is found online, because of the fact that Pentax users are few and far between. This means that the new policy has done nothing but prevented users otherwise interested in Pentax lenses from buying them.


Above: the Pentax DA* 50-135mm is the star of the UPP, jumping from $749 to $1599

I was on the phone with B&H again today, and after I mentioned the recent Adorama deals, their buyer agreed to drop the price of the 15mm limited to $539 when in cart. B&H said that if this deal ends up getting more copies of the lens sold, they will do their best to post similar deals in the future, even if Pentax doesn't get rid of the UPP. Lowering prices after adding to cart, without advertising them, is a gray area: Pentax can't really say that it's a violation of the UPP, but they certainly won't be happy about it. B&H admitted that it was nice to see some stock get cleared out during Black Friday, so hopefully they'll be giving Pentax stuff a little bit more attention from now on.

While I'm sure B&H will be the first to offer the best online Pentax lens prices, they alone won't be able to change the way things work, because Pentax lenses and cameras are dwarfed by all other DSLR brands.

Almost all other camera brands have unilateral pricing policies. The difference, however, is that in-store prices are the same as online prices, and that no lenses doubled in price from one day to the next. This keeps prices constant across the board and successfully protects the market, unlike the Pentax policy, which one might say was late to the game. So, Pentax, consider this a petition on behalf of our entire community asking you to rethink your online marketing strategy.

If the UPP has prevented or discouraged you from buying a Pentax lens, or even forced you to switch brands, and if you want prices to go back to normal, sign the petition by replying to this thread. Let's make this the biggest thread in the whole lens forum: hopefully it'll send a strong message!


And if you want, I can go on with more reasons for why the UPP is bad:
  • Competitors have similarly-priced full-frame glass

  • Sigma has cheaper lenses and also offers premium lenses

  • People will avoid new lenses in favor of cheap manual lenses

As much as I hate to do it, I'd like to ask that the replies be limited to members based in the US, or who regularly import Pentax lenses from US online retailers.
Forum: Photographic Technique 09-25-2012, 05:05 PM  
Ever just have one of those shooting days where everything goes to crap?
Posted By maxfield_photo
Replies: 18
Views: 3,014
This is where you should start.



This is not


The problem with pTTL is the camera is doing all the work for you. That sounds like a good thing, but let me say it another way: You are surrendering control to the camera and letting it make the decisions. You want to be in charge. At first you're going to fail. Don't give up, that's one of the most important parts of the process. Think of it like eating your vegetables, it's good for you!

Practice, when the pressure isn't on. Go to the park with a sucker patient friend. Take your camera out of auto mode, and take your flash out of auto mode. Full manual is the best way to learn, and thanks to digital you now have instant feedback. Get a light meter. Can't afford one? Get a gray card. Spot meter off of it, you'll be astonished at your new found accuracy. If there's something wrong with the frame that you just shot, you can adjust because the settings won't change unless you change them. Use a scientific approach. Adjust one variable at a time until you have it where you want it.

Remember that with flash you are taking two pictures at once, a flash exposure and an ambient exposure. Shutter speed, aperture and ISO control the ambient exposure; get that where you want it first. Aperture, ISO, flash output [edit: and flash-to-subject distance] control the flash exposure. Notice that aperture and ISO will affect both flash and ambient, so if you aren't happy with the balance between them, fiddling with those settings won't help.

Is the ambient light under exposed? Then slow the shutter speed. Is the flash exposure too hot? Then reduce the flash power. There really is no one correct balance as long as your subject is properly exposed (i.e. the flash exposure), it's just a matter of taste. Some people like a little bit of flash, some like a lot.

Just don't be afraid to make mistakes. As long as you're willing to learn from them, they'll teach you at least as much as your successes. Back in the days of film this would have been an expensive endeavor, and you would have had to take careful notes, now you can't use that excuse. Good luck, and don't hesitate to post your questions.
Forum: General Talk 03-10-2012, 11:41 AM  
Update Number *Two* from my Afghan Deployment
Posted By Heie
Replies: 24
Views: 11,876
CONTENT REMOVED

Not anymore ;)

Alex Jansen Photography | Afghan Deployment Series, Update Two

A link to the index of the published updates (as they are being re-uploaded in sequential order) can be found at the above update.

-Heie

I won't be making any other "bumps" to this thread, I just wanted to update the initial post and let those who were subscribed to this be made aware.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 10-13-2011, 08:47 PM  
Post your B&W Film shots
Posted By doskopanda
Replies: 12,667
Views: 1,437,362
this is my first time using this film, and I really love the tone it produces.
Developed in D-76(1:1) for 10 1/2 minutes @ 22°C







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