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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-22-2012, 03:11 PM  
Lens prices and our channel strategy in the U.S. - Ned Responses
Posted By StevenM
Replies: 716
Views: 65,091
This is my first post,

I just read on Ned's blog that "ALL" comments have been posted, NOT TRUE!
I just read on Ned's blog that "ALL" comments have been posted, even those critical of Pentax's new pricing policy... That is not remotely true!!!!!!

I submitted the following three times last week and it was not posted! Only slightly critical entries seem to appear!

"You might not see it as a "price increase", but the bottom line is that the price I must pay now is as much as double for a Pentax lens. My bottom line is now I can not afford to purchase Pentax lenses and Sigma now is looking damn good. I had been methodically building up my Pentax gear, but being disabled and on a very limited income I have been priced right out of the Pentax lens market. Besides why should I pay more for a product with an inferior warranty and often inferior performance?

If a camera store can not be competitive, why should the customer get the shaft by "subsidizing" their lack of competitiveness. You talk about making the Pentax product more available... I live 166 miles from the nearest camera store, which is in Boise and I'm unable to drive, plus live in a very small town in the mountains.... so how does this help me? So now I not only do I have to pay the same price online, but shipping charges on top of that!

If it had not been for B&H's fantastic service and prices, prior to this "price increase" I would not have taken the chance on purchasing Pentax in the first place with the often "spotty" quality control issues, along with poor warranty period.

Pentax has lost a customer and I'm sure that I'm not the only one in the same boat! There is no reason for a camera shop to make such a huge profit and it is rewarding both non-competitiveness and greed!"


Where did I even once name Ned as the source of:

"I just read on Ned's blog that "ALL" comments have been posted, even those critical of Pentax's new pricing policy... That is not remotely true!!!!!!"

In fact I re-posted to make sure it was very clear that not only was Ned not the source of the statement in the blog, but in fact it was and I quote myself, "the source is the last current entry made by "dgcom" making this claim.... I do not know if Ned has been making this claim himself.... I went to "dgcom" Twitter page to correct him, but it has not been active since the 25th of January. This is "dgcom" complete post, cut and pasted from Ned's blog, which I made it very clear that I was referring to:

"Hi, Ned. Appreciate that you approved all comments (even critical ones) and even found time to respond to them. I guess, you have better statistics on the requests for Pentax gear in retail compared to online, so I hope you know what you are doing.
But if people, who shop online, see significant price increase (relative to B&H, let's use it as "gold standard") it will make really bad impression...

I did though in fact claim my post had been censored by Ned, which is only obvious since it was never posted after 3 attempts the same day. If you read the statement made by/after pushing the "submit button" it states that "the post will not be made until after the OWNER of the blog, e.g. Ned, approves it"

So... if other posts were approved and posted way after my three attempts were made, besides being many days later now.... the one and only logical assumption which can be made is "Ned both censored and deleted my post... and/or he did not like my post as it showed how bad it actually effected the "Common Man" and/or Pentaxian."

Each attempt was the same exact post, which I cut and pasted from a document file... which is the exact same post I cut and pasted on this blog. Period! Case closed.

Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-22-2012, 01:11 PM  
Lens prices and our channel strategy in the U.S. - Ned Responses
Posted By StevenM
Replies: 716
Views: 65,091
I never once said that Ned had ever made the statement "he had posted all the he accepted all the comments".... in fact I clarified myself in a second post stating that it came from someone using the handle of "dgcom" and did not know his source.

You are the one making "assumptions" by stating "and he definitely approved polite "negative" posts", calling me a liar! So, what is your source? Did all of the posts made to Ned go thru You? So what are you saying? If I do not agree with Ned's or your opinion, I am not polite, a liar and my opinion should not be printed? Have you ever read the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution?

I was only trying to show the extreme hardship he had caused me personally... I had to both save for months and sell my Pentax 67 system to invest in the K-5 system, only to have the lenses put out of reach for me. I wish the drunk who ran me over as I walked down the sidewalk had insurance, but then there are a lot of people in dire hardship from the economy and such a radical price increase during a bad economy is not to anyone's benefit, period!!!!

The truth is that Ned's policies have hurt a lot of people who put their trust into Pentax to supply a quality reasonably price product......... with both Pentax's quality control issues and IQ issues being what they are, that is where Pentax should be focusing first if they want to increase sales.... that alone hurts sales severely and dealers wanting to handle Pentax.... bribing dealers with massive profits on each sale to look the other way is definitely not good for any company's future, let alone in the customer's benefit.

Telling retailers they have to sell at a specific price is illegal.... just ask "Apple". "MSRP" stands for "Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price", the key word is "Suggested"! Not a fixed price!

Oh by the way... censorship is a form of lying to the public.... and I am not the only one who was censored. My 3 "attempted" posts were made at the beginning of his blog and he has added many posts dated later than mine!

The bottom line... no matter how you rationalize the price fixing.... there are a lot of "devoted Pentaxians" who are hurt by it, period!
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-21-2012, 10:03 PM  
Lens prices and our channel strategy in the U.S. - Ned Responses
Posted By StevenM
Replies: 716
Views: 65,091
Hello, I should have been clearer about the source "that all comments were posted including the ones critical of the new policy".... the source is the last current entry made by "dgcom" making this claim.... I do not know if Ned has been making this claim himself, but the fact that Ned has been censoring the "critical of the new pricing policy" comments is a lie in itself by Ned! I went to "dgcom" Twitter page to correct him, but it has not been active since the 25th of January.

I hate in accurate "brown nosing"! I was already upset with Ned's lame theories that "I should be happy to pay twice as much"!!!!!

I have shot with a Pentax 67 since the early 80s, just switching over to K-5s recently. I was until this point was a devoted "Pentaxian", but when the "President" of a company does not feel an obligation to bother replying to critical comments made because of his new policies... it shows that he does not even value the customers or care about their opinions!

Maybe Ken has not noticed the major law suit filed against "Apple" last week for price fixing by the US Department of Justice... this at least comes damn close to price fixing, if not price fixing!

In the last 5 months I have bought K-5s and 3 DA* lenses... I was going to buy a 4th DA* the end of the month, but guess what... after it sky rocketed almost $800 at the strike of mid-night on "April Fools Day".... Sigma has my business now! But then I could just sell my DA*s at a huge profit after the "non-existent price increase" and my K-5s to go either full frame Canon or Nikon..... something Ned should have thought about first, too!

No customer loyalty... no brand loyalty! That is what I have to say..... but I could wait a year or two and "maybe" get a hundred dollar rebate on the lens that just went up over $800 in price! But then I have worked for Ricoh in the past and know their business practices.... they love to re-brand and then massive price increases for the exact same product from the original manufacturer such as Toshiba (I've work for Toshiba and know this for fact!)
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-21-2012, 08:19 PM  
Lens prices and our channel strategy in the U.S. - Ned Responses
Posted By StevenM
Replies: 716
Views: 65,091
I just read on Ned's blog that "ALL" comments have been posted, even those critical of Pentax's new pricing policy... That is not remotely true!!!!!!

I submitted the following three times last week and it was not posted! Only slightly critical entries seem to appear!

"You might not see it as a "price increase", but the bottom line is that the price I must pay now is as much as double for a Pentax lens. My bottom line is now I can not afford to purchase Pentax lenses and Sigma now is looking damn good. I had been methodically building up my Pentax gear, but being disabled and on a very limited income I have been priced right out of the Pentax lens market. Besides why should I pay more for a product with an inferior warranty and often inferior performance?

If a camera store can not be competitive, why should the customer get the shaft by "subsidizing" their lack of competitiveness. You talk about making the Pentax product more available... I live 166 miles from the nearest camera store, which is in Boise and I'm unable to drive, plus live in a very small town in the mountains.... so how does this help me? So now I not only do I have to pay the same price online, but shipping charges on top of that!

If it had not been for B&H's fantastic service and prices, prior to this "price increase" I would not have taken the chance on purchasing Pentax in the first place with the often "spotty" quality control issues, along with poor warranty period.

Pentax has lost a customer and I'm sure that I'm not the only one in the same boat! There is no reason for a camera shop to make such a huge profit and it is rewarding both non-competitiveness and greed!"
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