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Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-15-2012, 01:24 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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From now on I'm going to pay special attention to whom I hand my Neopan over and who gets the c41 b&w, at least until I get to developing them on my own :)

Oh and thanks Eddie and Steve for the changing bag tip, that will come quite useful.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-13-2012, 09:09 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Our toilet has windows too ;)

I suppose some heavy black curtain solution + doing it in the night might do the trick.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-13-2012, 08:58 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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I'm already on it :) been planning it ever since I got my hands on a couple of 70's cameras, this Spotmatic F included.

My only issue at the moment is that there isn't a single room in this house that wouldn't have a window in it. Even the basement and the bathrooms have windows, so need to get that taken care of first. After that...well, that's when the fun starts :D
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-13-2012, 08:26 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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I'm slowly starting to think that's exactly what happened. Considering that they only sold C-41 b/w film themselves and dismissed the existence of ISO100 b/w...

Would at least explain why the film roll had absolutely no markings on it at all and was see-through, pretty much clear as sky.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-13-2012, 12:28 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Hah, yeah. Actually I was talking to the lab guy when handing the film over and we came to the topic of b/w film and ISO. He claimed that ISO 100 doesn't exist, it's all 125 or higher, at which point I pointed at the film roll I had just given him and said "...but, that's ISO 100". And his reply was "Oh, but that's fuji". I suppose I should have left the place at that point :D

The film was Neopan 100 Acros.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 08:48 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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*phew* thanks for confirming my lab error suspicions :)

It was the first time developing there, it was a local small "pro" shop and I only went there because I was in a hurry. Not going to go there anymore in near future.

Going to stick to my usual photo service from now on! And also going to shoot a test roll on the same camera just to be sure...
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 06:18 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Yeah, "the machine does it all" where his words, not mine :)

I'm pretty sure that I didn't expose the film to light, especially not all of it! Unless, well, the backside of the camera was open all this time (which it wasn't), or if the backside has a hole in it or the seals leak... Would have had to be a recent issue, since the last film I got developed (just a week ago) was still ok.

And anyway, if it were exposed to light, wouldn't the frames be all black? I saw the film myself and it really was empty, not a single spot or a darker patch anywhere to be seen.

I think I'll write this off on the lab guys though.

Unless the next roll turns up empty as well..
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 05:52 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Unfortunately I forgot to take it with me.

I can't remember having seen any markings when I had it in my hands at the store, so I called them (they're slowly starting to get annoyed, I've called already quite a few times today) and they too said "no markings on the film". I took a look at the other (colour) film I got developed there at the same time and it does have the markings ("fuji" and frame numbers).

The guy insisted that there's no error on their part, "the machine does it all" and with no errors.

But he did admit that there are no markings at all... So I'm not so sure I trust him in this case.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 03:52 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Ah, that makes it easier :)

Tried it, first with the lens on (the blades opened as supposed to) and then without the lens. I saw the mirror fold up and the film behind it for about a second, so I assume that the shutter still works as it's supposed to.
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 03:44 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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Well, the camera has worked correctly so far, I've done a few dozen rolls and they all came out fine. But I'll check the shutter anyway (just have to remove the film I have in there).

The negative was completely empty though, there was not a single exposed frame in there, so developing error is also high on my list of suspects :(
Forum: Film SLRs and Compact Film Cameras 07-12-2012, 02:19 AM  
Probably a beginner's mistake, but why was my roll of film empty?
Posted By ergates
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I've had this Spotmatic F for a while now and I just "shot" through 36 frame b/w film. Brought it to get developed and they told me it was empty :( even showed me the film, it really had nothing on it.

I'm (relatively) sure I did everything as usual. I once stumbled upon this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-film-slr-discussion/173380-i-screw...etty-hard.html, and ever since then I've made sure that the rewind knob winds :D

Anyway, here's what I did:

- Put in ASA100 b/w film, made sure asa selector was set to 100
- Advanced the film a few frames, made sure the rewind knob turned
- Shot 36 frames, after which the film refused to wind further (so I'm pretty sure it actually moved that whole time)
- Rewound it, which took a while

So I'm fairly certain that the film was advancing all the time. What could have gone wrong then? Why was there nothing on it? I asked the guy at the store if he could see whether it had been exposed at all or not, but he couldn't tell, they just ran it through the machine and it came out empty.
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