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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-06-2013, 07:52 AM
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Read my mind, but seriously, I'm currently shooting photography as a volunteer to spread awareness about causes that I care about and am not big on receiving credit at the moment (besides, as I said before, we're both [she and I] amateurs). I mainly want to be able to showcase some pictures of myself that I spent time and effort making and feel good about.
Well I'm most definitely not a drama person, but i don't like giving in to someone who I believe is completely wrong.
If I were someone else that I cared about, I wouldn't let that person give in to another person's selfishness if they were proud of a picture they directed and edited.
Class is this Thursday.
Also, thanks, everyone, for taking the time to read through my stuff and give me your opinions.
I do appreciate it and am doing my best to view this from different angles.
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-06-2013, 07:24 AM
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I don't mind giving her credit even after directing the pictures.
And I've already given her the original versions of the pictures she's taken.
The question is whether I should listen to her and not post the pictures I like anywhere nor edit them (giving her credit for taking the shot each time I do). I don't see why I should.
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-06-2013, 06:53 AM
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Our photography teacher said the exact opposite, that you can have someone else take a self portrait picture.
Let's not include that I took pictures of her and she can do whatever damn thing she wants with the pictures I took, which I sent to her (like the pictures she took).
And she did not mention anything about "full ownership" of the images, yet she says that it's sad that I would consider the pictures anything but hers, and that I have no right to edit or use her pictures even if I credit her (I'm giving her full credit for taking the picture).
It was in fully manual mode and I actually did adjust every single setting (Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, white balance) to make a silhouette and underexpose the sunset to bring out the colors of the sunset while not blurring the waves (I do not mean to brag at all [because I really DO consider myself a beginner], I've taken and toggled with probably around 2-3 thousand sunset pictures in the last couple months of my starting photography, and have watched several videos and read several forums on the topic taking pictures of sunsets, knowing that I'd tend to be able to recover colors that are underexposed; I've also edited 400 pictures [individual] just this last week in Lightroom).
I also adjusted the focusing in advance (before posing repeatedly) since she didn't know how to like all the other settings.
Now, if she asked for or made it clear in advance that she wanted "full ownership" of the pictures that she took and if I agreed with her, then obviously I would understand that she has total control of whatever picture she pressed the shutter at.
If I was threatening not to give her credit for taking the pictures and use her pictures, then we'd have a problem; however, as I've said, I'm giving her full credit for taking the shot - while crediting myself for the editing - but she says that I have no right to edit or even use her pictures even in such a case.
This is a case where absolutely NO money is involved, but she made an outrageously big deal out of it, calling me sick for even considering the pictures anything but completely and totally hers. I mean, we're ******* amateurs. This is not even taking into account that these are 3-4 pictures she would probably have never used.
And if there's one thing I won't do, it's give someone stuff ("full power" to the extent that I can't edit pictures I directed) because she's selfish. A nicer person might do that, but why should I?
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-04-2013, 05:04 PM
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Thanks for the replies, everyone.
She and I will not be working together again, of course.
This is exactly the case. I asked her to take the picture with my camera and post processed it.
I recently offered - after it was taken - to say "Picture taken by X, edited by David," but she said it was her intellectual property and that I can't use her pictures (that includes editing).
Seriously, and thank you.
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-04-2013, 02:37 PM
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We got into a fight and she doesn't want me to use her pictures or put her pictures up anywhere because it's her property apparently.
What do you think about that?
Edit: I also adjusted the focusing in advance, along with the other camera settings.
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-04-2013, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for this observer.
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals
05-04-2013, 01:23 PM
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I went with my photography classmate the other day to get some self portrait pictures.
I lent her my camera and adjusted the camera's ISO, shutter speed, and Aperture settings for her (she was still learning camera settings, i.e. did not know to use a fast shutter speed so the waves don't blur), posed in ways I thought would work, and positioned myself in regards to where the camera was as she shot away.
The original pictures turned out horrible - you can't make them out, and if you just turn up the exposure a lot, they become fairly grainy and not so useable
I edited exposure, clarity, shadows, lighting, and contrast MASSIVELY in Lightroom and cropped in to my liking, and a good few of the pictures look, in my opinion, amazing.
Now, my classmate is REALLY big on receiving credit for the pictures she's taken. I've tonemapped a few pictures of hers in the past and have given her credit, but this time, regarding the editing, I feel way too partial to giving myself the credit, because I feel like I did most of the work.
My question is:
Should I give her credit for the picture?
Sure I can say, "Picture taken by x, edited by me," but honestly I posed the shot, helped compose the picture, and adjusted the camera settings for her, and if people read "Picture taken by her, edited by me," it'd be a natural thing to consider that I only tweaked it while she's the one who made the picture good and editable.
What do you think? All of your opinions matter to me.
Here's one example:
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Forum: Photo Critique
03-03-2013, 04:56 PM
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Hey everyone, I'm looking for your thoughts and criticism on this shot.
I also wonder if you can guess what it is.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-12-2013, 12:13 PM
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Ah, thank you, everyone, for your advice on choosing more wisely when to try out HDR; I'll definitely be working on single stills most of the time, but didn't realize how unnatural this picture looked (it just goes to show that a person's his own worst critic). I'll definitely be careful about when to use it.
And here's the original picture at the median exposure value. Would you say that it's overall a better picture than its HDR version, in this case?
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-12-2013, 01:50 AM
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Hello everyone, I decided to try applying some HDR for the first time to try popping out the lake's colors as they stood out to me in person (and in comparison, looking back at the original picture now, it does look pretty dull compared to the actual nature [horrible pun] of the scene). I took this picture on my third day of practice with the K-5. Unfortunately, I didn't have my tripod, so I did the best I could with the camera handheld.
Everyone's criticisms and thoughts are always welcome.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-12-2013, 01:35 AM
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Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to give me your compliments, criticism, and advice. I do appreciate it, and have been reading about PP since. Regarding PP, Jim referenced me to HDR, which I *just* started reading about and getting into it. I'll try editing when I get the chance, but I didn't have room left in the card at that point of the day to bracket, so the recent HDR material I've downloaded and have been reading about won't be of help here, I think.
And thank you, Q, for your advice about the polarizer. I was totally unaware of it, and that Wiki page with examples definitely tempts me to get one. I'll be looking into it for sure.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-12-2013, 01:26 AM
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Thank you, and thank you for telling me about HDR; I didn't even know it existed, and upon initially reading about it and seeing pictures, thought it was cheating. However, I started reading "Creating HDR Photos - The Complete Guide to High Dynamic Range Photography " by Harold Davis - and now I think otherwise; I also purchased and downloaded "Photomatrix Pro 4" and just started practicing that. Working with RAW's now, I didn't know how important post processing is.
Regarding the last picture's setting, it was actually quite dark with minimal light, so I used a 30 second exposure to bring it out. The second to last one, not quite sure what happened. I think it's the light on the water causing my camera to underexpose to make up for it (does that make sense? I've only recently started reading about cameras, so my logic might be off).
Ah, I actually borrowed the wide angle lens from borrowlenses.com and have been stuck with the less expensive (but still very nice). I shot in manual mode with manual focusing, but, as said (in response to Jim), the last picture was taken with a very long exposure with little light, and the second to last picture may be dark because of my camera underexposing to make up for the reflection of light on the water (or I could totally be off).
Thank you for that first piece of advice, and for referencing the rule of thirds to me. The rule of thirds is one of those concepts that I actually did assuming without knowing it's name, nor that it was highly regarded; I looked it up and now have a more accurate idea of how it's supposed to work, so thank you for referencing me.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-05-2013, 11:01 PM
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Hello, I'm David, and I took pictures of the sunset over the course of three days, and I've found improvement each day; I crave a constant increase of standard, and would love your criticisms regarding my pictures. There is little to no post processing done, that being very slight cropping/rotation on the third picture. I didn't bring the tripod with me. These were taken on day 3:
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-05-2013, 10:53 PM
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Hello, I'm David, a total novice to photography, and I took pictures of the sunset over the course of three days, and I've found myself at more ease each day with the K-5, having gotten it a two weeks ago; I crave a constant increase of standard, and would love your criticisms regarding my pictures. No post processing was done. These were taken on day 2 of my shooting with the K-5:
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-04-2013, 06:31 PM
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This is divine, no criticisms from me.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-04-2013, 06:24 PM
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I'm liking the incredible detail, and the bokeh is well done in my opinion; as a novice, however, I can't think of any real criticisms, and the one thing that bothers me could be totally off: The rock on the right side of the squirrel has a white outline on its left side which gives me the idea that it was cropped and planted into the picture or something.
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-04-2013, 06:18 PM
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Forum: Photo Critique
02-04-2013, 06:07 PM
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Thank you, everyone, for your responses and advice.
I've worked quite a bit over the course of 3 days and feel much more at ease when shooting, and the number of "acceptable photos" I've taken each time has gone up quite a bit (though, of course, I will always be setting my standard higher).
@Norm's response: What is PP? One "P" probably stands for "Photo," not sure about the other. More pictures are to come. Thank you to everyone again for taking the time and thought to respond to me.
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Forum: Welcomes and Introductions
01-29-2013, 11:57 PM
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Ah. If you don't mind my asking, why not pursue teaching then (or well, not yet)? If you don't want to answer, you can just ignore this question.
And I took a look at your album. I love how you take in the speck of reflected light upon water in your Macroed flower photos. Very nicely done.
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Forum: Photo Critique
01-29-2013, 11:52 PM
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Forum: Photo Critique
01-29-2013, 10:56 PM
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I'm a total beginner, but I love the sky, and - as jford mentioned - the sand is underexposed.
I think it's an awesome picture, anyways.
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Forum: Welcomes and Introductions
01-29-2013, 10:48 PM
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Hello to everyone who has read this. I'm taking my first course in photography this year, coming from a one-year background of point n' shoot and automatic.
I needed an SLR for the course, and after around 13 hours of searching, I decided on the Pentax K-5, taking in some fundamentals from my readings while at it. I hope to become good enough eventually to do photography - landscape photography if possible - as a business, before becoming a teacher later in life. I love helping people.
If you comment in this thread, I'd like to know one fact about yourself, and if you're not comfortable with doing so, it's perfectly fine. I greatly appreciate criticism., and hope we can exchange knowledge sometime in the future.
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