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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-10-2013, 04:24 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
"Personally attacking you?" Seriously?
If that really is all you got from the comment, well, suppose I should thank you for proving my point.



Good for you, but if that really is the case, it makes me wonder why are you here, then.
But nevermind, whatever floats your boat. With or without gaffer's tape on your gear.
Good luck on your chosen path.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-06-2013, 04:30 PM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Quite.
In my original truck analogy, certain things like all trucks having proper cargo lifters and so on was a self evident detail. The only difference being the brand of the vehicles, and the size of the cargo space. From big rigs and delivery truck sized ones to large vans, with personnel who know what they are doing in each of them. I'm not a pedantic person, so I didn't even think that delwing into irrelevant details was really necessary, or that anyone would want to do that in the first place.

Besides, it was just a simple analogy, anyway, to highlight the bottom line, which you apparently still fail to see. Which is and always was the same, it ain't about the gear. It ain't about the brand of the gear. It's about you.

But sure, you can keep telling yourself that you can't get proper pictures, and you can't get any shooting gigs because your camera is too small, your AF is too noisy, it has no FF sensor, no tethering, no Canikon logo, etc, etc, etc.

You can keep on whining about the Canikon boys who bully you, the wicked wedding clients who won't give you the job because you've got a Pentax, and so on. Feel free to delude yourself with even more excuses for why you simply cannot get anything done with your Pentax, Sony, Panasonic or whatever. That is indeed what camera geeks and pedantic people love to do. Blaming the gear, and obsessing about the irrelevant.

Meanwhile, people are winning Oscars with photos taken with a friggin' iPhone.

Other people are shooting weddings and other venues with APS-C cameras, and get paid well, because their work looks so good. Soon they can afford to buy any camera they want. Another well known pro still gets his great photos awarded, rewarded and even published, even though he just traded all his Nikon FF gear for mFT gear. Some famous professional fashion and glamour photographers are shooting with a FF camera, but not a Canikon. They still get asked to do high profile jobs, time and again.

But you, on the other hand, can (and no doubt will) carry on concentrating on the excuses and the outrageously irrelevant. Some others here can carry on biting my ankle like untrained mutts, instead of contributing something worthwhile to the actual topic.

Also feel free to join the choir of the bleeding hearts who'd rather obsess about PC and individual words, and simply ignore the main message itself. Some of them don't seem to ge over the fact that I used the dreaded b-word and the d-word and, God forbid, even the unthinkable t-word! Yikes! The actual point of the comment seem to be irrelevant, and the attempt to stir relevant discussion on the subject was ignored. Oh well, whatever.

However, while you are busy blaming my verbal skills, the Canikon bullies, the picky clients and your dodgy Pentax gear, what you should be doing is to take a deep breath and seriously consider your own role in the equation. Do you really think your own work is top notch, and the service you're offering to your clients is inpeccable?

Have you really showed a killer portfolio and provided exquisite service to your clients?
Can you really provide pictures and service so good that people can't stop recommending you to others? Can you?

When your work is good enough, you present it with confidence, and provide your clients great service that makes them rave about you to their peers, they don't give a bleep about the logo on your camera, let alone the size of the sensor inside it. They really don't. No one cares about your gear, except the other camera geeks. Trying to impress them is waste of your precious time and energy.

Sure, there may be some rare cases where there is a legit reason for demanding a certain brand or a size of a sensor but, in the majority of cases it doesen't really matter. What matters is you and your skills, not the logo on your gear.

So go on and hide the Pentax logo on your camera if you like, I couldn't care less. But just keep in mind that trying to hide your own insecurity among your peers by hiding the logo of your camera is the same as the proverbial ostrich burying its head into the sand. It's equally helpful, and it looks equally silly.

The only feasible reason to do so would be the reluctance to be a billboard for any brand in general, but I think that's another story altogether. So, to the starter of this thread, by all means do that, but only for the right reasons. I wasn't really questioning your, er, b-word nuggets at any time, just trying to stir a discussion about the real reasons for, and the actual implications of hiding the logo. After all, it ain't about the gear.

That's about it. I think I'm done here.
Forum: Video Recording and Processing 04-06-2013, 02:43 PM  
New camera stablizer
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 8
Views: 1,310
Indeed. Make sure to watch the two other video clips, too, including the behind the scenes clip, and the ROAM clip further down in Vincent Laforet's blog post.
Very cool. Got to get myself one of those. I'm off to fill up a lottery ticket, because those babies don't come cheap. :)
M?VI – a revolutionary handheld stabilized system takes flight
Forum: Ricoh GR 04-06-2013, 02:10 PM  
Recommended lenses for GXR + M-mount
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 18
Views: 13,507
Okay, I sort of promised to add my own recommendations for M mount lenses.
Well, for starters, if you can afford them and find them, the Minolta M-Rokkor lenses would be my long time favourites. Both 28mm, 40mm and the 90mm.
But so far I've settled for Voigtländer lenses, which are usually quite nice, but sometimes getting a good specimen can take some effort.

Nevertheless, my current favourites include the 21mm Skopar, even though it's not particularly fast. It's small and nice to use as a walkabout lens, and covers a moderate wideangle view.
On the tele end I use the 3.5/90mm APO-Lanthar. Quite a nice lens, lightweight and sharp enough. Comes with a nice metal lens hood.

Then, even though I recommended against adapters and other mount lenses, I'm still using a 2.0/58mm Helios as my "poor man's cine lens" with a Fotodiox m42 to LM adapter. It's surprisingly good for the price these days, provided that you can find a good specimen, and a manual version with three rings, with the aperture ring and the opening/closing ring at the further end of the lens, and the focusing ring closest to the lens mount. The biggest downside of this lens and adapter combo is the obvious one, the weight, which makes the lens and GXR combo a bit front-heavy. Which is true with most SLR lenses with an adapter.
But anyway, that's my short list for M mount lenses.
Forum: Pentax K-01 04-06-2013, 01:57 PM  
Glue a Hoodman loupe to a K-01?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 60
Views: 12,802
BTW, here's one nice option for you:
VF-3 LCD Viewfinder by Carry Speed on PhotoWhoa
Forum: Video Recording and Processing 04-06-2013, 01:42 PM  
video modes whats the difference/s??
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 7
Views: 1,345
This brought a slightly amused smirk into my face. ;)
I am a "mature" enough user to have started shooting with film, but also shooting video with, well, analogue video. Don't go thinking that shooting video and "mature" age have anything significant to do with each other. That's unnecessary and inaccurate ageism. :D

I believe the Pentax gear itself has more to do with it. All current camera brands have both "mature" and "immature" users, but some camera brands have added better video capabilities into their products than Pentax.

Some Pentax cameras are quite capable of delivering nice video footage in the right hands but, the majority of video enthusiasts are likely to use another brand these days. Sony, Panasonic and Canon come to mind, for example. Nevertheless, we don't really know what Ricoh/Pentax is up to, so things could change in the near future.

It's also good to keep in mind that when it comes to the real video enthusiasts, the actual shooting of the video is just one part of the job. Almost as much, if not much more, happens after the actual shooting. Also the amount of the footage shot is less relevant than the content of the footage, and the quality of it.
Only the young and clueless hipster kids shoot a lot and share their clips directly from camera to the web. ;)
Forum: Video Recording and Processing 04-02-2013, 06:43 AM  
Final Cut Pro X app for iPad
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 2
Views: 1,477
Cool! Thanks for the tip.

At first I was a bit wary about that link, because the date indicated 1st of April, but it turned out to be a fully legit story. :)
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-02-2013, 06:30 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Looks like we have one bike in common. I used to ride a ZZR 600 for a while, too, almost a decade ago, but then traded it rather quickly for something, er, 'slightly' different. One of your current bikes I wouldn't mind having as a toy is the KLR-250. These days I'm daydreaming about a Vespa as a shopping bag, commuter and a light gear hauler, or perhaps something like a Bonnie or a Scrambler with mod kit and bags. I could carry some photo gear with those, too, and the unusual "camera bag" could work as my "free" advertisement for my work. The Nellie would still take care of the r&r whenever I'm not working.
But that's enough of bike stuff in this particular topic, isn't it. :)
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-02-2013, 06:01 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Well, that's the key, isn't it, the morons. So one could think that choosing whom to work with would be the remedy, at least a partial one.
Besides, if there is a moron in charge, do you really think simply covering up the logo will really solve the problem?
After all, "no name" does not necessarily equal "Canikon" and, as we've already established, dogs only bark at things they don't know/understand. Besides, if your client was a moron, s/he would not recognise a medium format Pentax, let alone a Phase One, either. If size was the key issue, they're really not that much bigger than the top of the line Canikons.






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Many have opted for a Nikon or Canon just because they lost jobs or were denied access without them. The fact is a fact and been stated in numerous threads over the years. "Just do[ing] your own thing.." is fine for hobbyists but isn't always productive for a professional. Pretty simple equation sometimes - no work because of Pentax = no more Pentax.



In the opening post in this thread it seemed pretty obvious that in this particular case it was about a hobbyist getting the 'looks' from the smug Canikon posers, rather than a pro not getting jobs because of his camera brand.

As for the professionals, I still don't quite believe the brand can be such a life and death issue for any professional working in any genre of the industry. It must be something superficial, something between the ears of some of the photogs themselves, not just the morons in charge.
It must have something to do with what field of professional photography one is working in, too. If you are not in an immediate risk of dying out of starvation, you can always choose not to work with morons, can't you.

I also believe that "the looks" and belittling behaviour is likely to come from other photographers, professional or amateur, rather than from real paying clients who just wish to have a job done and receive photographs.
If you go to a restaurant, does it really matter what brand of knives the chef is using, as long as the food is great? Or, if you're about to hire a mover, does it really matter if the company truck that appears at your front door is a Mack, a Volvo or a White, as long as the truck is big enough and in good running condition? If it did, you'd be that moron in charge, and as the professional, I would probably choose not to work with you.
Why on earth would I work for some moron who questions my tools, rather than the quality of my work? What difference does it make, if my work is top notch? It really is quite ridiculous, isn't it.

When I was employed in the industry and did professional gigs in studio and on location, the logo on my grear was never an issue. I would occasionally shoot with a company Nikon, too, but that was only because that was one of the house cameras, which had one particular lens. I don't remember ever getting "the look" from any client when I was using something else. Which was quite often. I also knew and know professionals and semi-professionals who don't use Canikon, but that has never stopped them from earning a living.

Now that I've started doing photo gigs again as a part of my own business, I have yet to find a potential client who would even notice the brand of my gear, which is not Canikon, let alone decline a job because of it. If that ever becomes an issue, I'm willing to pass that job.

I don't care to work with morons, for any reason, and within any industry. Usually the moronic nature of the potential client comes up in the talks, anyway, before they've even seen my gear. We can, or at least we should choose our clients.

Nevertheless, I'll keep an eye for what you described, anyway, just out of curiosity, and I'll report back if I stumble on it. I still think the genre of your professional work and even your region are likely to be key factors here, and I hope I still won't be proven wrong. We'll see.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-02-2013, 04:44 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Actually, it was you who did the derailing, but nevermind. Next time I make a sarcastic comment I'll remember not to feed the pests that inevitably rush in to beg for attention. They are every bit as harmful as the real trolls (which we didn't find here, after all), and one should not feed either ones. So thanks for the reminder.



I didn't have to, because it was and is screamingly obvious to those whom the pun was aimed at.



Maybe it is to you, but your opinion has little to do with reality. To those whom the comment was aimed at, the bike is an easily recognisable Kawasaki XZ-10R, even down to the Kawasaki trademark, the "Kawa Green" paintjob.


Again, it would have been perfectly alright to skip things you don't understand, and which don't concern you to begin with. Your choosing to bite my ankle and barking at something you don't understand was totally unnecessary and disruptive. If something "derailed" this thread, that would be it, and you can find the pilot of that train wreck in your own mirror.

But thanks again for the reminder. From now on I won't indeed be feeding either trolls or pests.
Other than that, I think this is already way more than enough attention this "side track" deserves.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-02-2013, 03:55 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Why?
After all, like Akarak mentioned in his post, "he was just a moron dealing press stuff [edited] that didn't knew anything about photography." So why would you care what the morons think? Real photogs don't care about the brand of your gear. Just do your own thing.

As for the trolling part, I didn't say you were trolling, I just said your post sounded like it could have been a troll post, but not necessarily. What I said in my first comment in a tougher voice, I can say again in a more empathetic voice, too, but the message would still be the same. Why would you care [edited] about those morons and their pathetic attitudes?
Do like Lauren does, be a Pentax guy and be proud. :cool:

Speaking of which, have you seen the movie The Commitments? If not, go and rent/watch it. There's this scene where the sax player of the band, a typical Irish lad, after finishing the tune with his sax says: "I'm black and I'm proud." It doesn't seem to make much sense when told like this, but it will, as soon as you see the movie. :)
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-01-2013, 01:00 PM  
What, no K-3 today?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 16
Views: 2,799
Well, the proverbial FF K3 released today of all days would have been a bit too lame and way too obvious, wouldn't it.

A new updated version of K-01, on the other hand, or even better, the "un-discontinuing" of the old version, now that might have stirred the pot nicely, if/when done right, in a 'serious' and distracting enough manner. It might have prompted a new heated debate for several pages. :p

Too bad no one came up with that, either. Oh well, maybe next year.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-01-2013, 12:45 PM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
That's right. The friendly pun about the bike brand and camera brand wasn't aimed at you, and quite obviously you didn't get it.
There is not much point in trying to explain jokes, you either get them or you don't. No harm done if you don't, it's perfectly alright. It didn't even concern you in the first place, so feel free to move along, thank you.

There is no need for knights in shining armour to gallop in and defend a lady in distress, either, because no lady is in distress here. ;)

/OT
Forum: Pentax Full Frame 04-01-2013, 09:44 AM  
Official Pentax K3 Full Frame 24 MP
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 16
Views: 10,481
I'm a bit surprised that no news about K-01 successor have been published today. I was expecting to see at least two or three K-02 release news by now. :)

As for the Pentax full frame, I've got one, and it still works. Still kinda like it, even though it's rather simple in design. But maybe that's one of the reasons, as well as the rugged and field-tested (by myself) design.
It's called Pentax P30T. :cool:
Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 04-01-2013, 09:39 AM  
Fuel on the fire: Comparing the K-5 and DP2 Merrill
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 108
Views: 28,186
Umm, not quite. K5 and D7000 maybe, but more like a55, not a77. The a77 has the same 24mp sensor used in NEX-7.
As for the lightness of the AA filter in NEX-5n, I tend to doubt that, but won't start arguing about it, not without better data. But based on empirical findings, it looks more like average, rather than light.

But I totally agree with the point (or lack thereof) in doing these comparisons. Not everyone has an inexhaustible or pedantic enough nerd gland. But surely it has all been said at least once already, so... ;)
Forum: Pentax Full Frame 04-01-2013, 09:23 AM  
How to push the Pentax Full-Frame Idea and get that FF out faster...
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 1,493
Views: 183,878
BTW, what is a "Pentax full frame" and why is there a Pentax Full Frame section in this forum?
After all, there is already a section for Pentax film SLR's and other than those, there is no Pentax 'full frame' camera.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-01-2013, 09:18 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
Where did I imply anything like that? Sportbikes are quite OK, I've got one myself.



Umm.... 42.
Nevermind, nothing to see here. Move along, carry on with the program.
Forum: Pentax K-01 04-01-2013, 04:48 AM  
Need help understanding mirrorless blackout
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 3
Views: 1,931
Yes, there is no mirror flipping about, but there is still the mechanical shutter hopping about whenever you press the shutter button.
It's the same with all mirrorless cameras, and dSLR's in live view mode as well.

The live view you see in your screen is the image that is projected onto the sensor through the lens, and then sent up onto the screen of the camera, too. The sensor of your camera is doing a double duty of providing the live view image into your screen in the back of the camera, as well as capturing the shot when you are taking a photo.

Because of that, the shutter needs to be open for the sensor (and thus you) to see the image, and only when you press the shutter button, the shutter will first close, then open up again for the duration of the exposure, and then go back open again for the live view.
In the (d)SLR's, on the other hand, the view in the viewfinder comes via the mirror, and the shutter blades are always closed, except during the actual exposure, and occasionally for live view, when the mirror is locked up and the camera acts just like a mirrorless camera.

It may sound confusing at first, but it makes perfect sense when you think about it. Try shooting a photo without a lens to see how the shutter blades move during the actual shot, and you'll see it yourself.

I believe that in the future generations of mirrorless, that is, native digital cameras, not rangefinder ones, the mechanical shutter blades are to be replaced with electric ones. Then the blackout will either totally disappear, or become even shorter than it is now.

Some mirrorless cameras are already using an electronic first shutter, (sometimes named as the silent shutter), where only the second shutter, the closing one, is mechanical. In other words, the exposure will start without the shutter blades having to close first, and the mechanical shutter will only drop down once to finish the exposure, and then open up again for the live view.
Forum: Video Recording and Processing 04-01-2013, 04:34 AM  
30 days of film K5
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 8
Views: 1,564
Yes, she was not too technical, but she was sort of inspiring, anyway, wasn't she. She gave the viewers and students the motivation to go out and try things out for themselves, and start doing the video promos for their businesses. Her actual work, like the story about the woman with cancer in Paris clip was pretty good, wasn't it.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-01-2013, 04:22 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
I kinda like your taste and attitude for cameras, but (based on your avatar,) I don't think I can say the same about your taste for bikes. :p
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 04-01-2013, 04:17 AM  
Do you tape or paint your camera's logo and type?
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 109
Views: 12,985
I'm sorry if I sound a bit blunt but, after reading this comment I think it needs to be said here.

Funny that you mentioned balls, because it sounds like your only problem is that you just need to grow a pair.
It doesn't matter how much money you've got, because you cannot really buy a pair of bollocks. You can only earn them, or simply grow up.

Do you really think that a bigger camera like the 645d with the same Pentax logo would make much difference in the eyes of the Canikon posers? Why would you give a toss about them, anyway? Do you think it would impress the girls? There are better ways to do that than big cameras.

If you feel that going stealth with your K5 is "the only solution," photography may not be the ideal hobby for you. Instead of taping or painting your K5, you might as well sell it and take another hobby, like fashion. Over there, appearance and the right logos really are everything.

BTW, In case this thread was a troll to begin with, that's all the more reason to say it without sugar coating it.
Forum: Video Recording and Processing 03-29-2013, 05:41 AM  
30 days of film K5
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 8
Views: 1,564
Ha!
You're that guy from The Art of Filmmaking and Editing course audience, and I claim my ten bob. :)
That was a cool course. Too bad I couldn't participate in that course during its live run, but fortunately I was able to cacth parts of it in my iPad.

Cool clip, and indeed kinda inspiring. I think I'll have to do my 28 days / 2 minutes, too, one of these months.

Speaking of Hailey and Sue, Hailey's course is still on sale for $99, for few days more. That's another cL video course worth recommending.
Promoting Your Studio with Video Showreels with Sue Bryce and Hailey Bartholomew | creativeLIVE
Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 03-29-2013, 03:01 AM  
Moiré, gotcha!!
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 12
Views: 1,959
Sez who?
If you found that on the internyet, it must be true, right?
You could have asked almost any GXR or Leica user about the real life implications of the lack of the AA filter. ;)
Just be careful before you start shooting fashion for some picky clothes designer professionally. Other than that, well, even an occasional ring of moire won't necessarily ruin your photo, will it? I think not. Quite often the noise on the internet is much ado about nothing.



All Bayer style sensors are prone to have moiré. The reshuffled Bayer sensor of the Fuji X series cameras may be anexception. But apart from the Fuji, the feature is built in the sensor design. Different manufacturers are using different strengths of low-pass filters in their cameras, though, and sometimes a camera with a weaker low-pass filter will produce moiré patterns more likely than a one with a stronger filter.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-28-2013, 05:07 PM  
Jessops
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 25
Views: 24,874
Yup, that would be one piece of the equation. Partially thanks to the economy people aren't buying as much as they used to, and the market becomes flooded, and unsold stocks grow bigger. The manufacturers want us to buy both the old and the new stock, but people don't need that many cameras, nor can they afford them right now. It's not a DSLR thing alone. Looks like it's the same with DSLR's, CSC's and even compacts.

When people need, or feel like they need a new product, they will buy one, provided that they have the financial means to do so. In such a case, even the price doesn't really matter. Those who can will buy, regardless of the price, and those who cannot or dare not won't, even at discounted prices. Nowadays many people will just have to rethink whether they actually need something, or simply want something.

Because money is moving in one direction only these days, from out pockets into the banks.
Non Sequitur Comic Strip, March 28, 2013 on GoComics.com
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-28-2013, 03:51 PM  
Jessops
Posted By EchoOscar
Replies: 25
Views: 24,874
I saw a piece of statistics, or the analysis of them recently, on the overall camera sales in 2012, and according to that all camera brand sales were going down. Of all the camera brands, including dSLR's and MILC's, only Canon and Nikon were showing profit. But even their profit margins were shrinking. Everyone else, including Pentax, were showing losses in their 2012 results. So it appears to be that indeed all dSLR's don't sell these days. Everyone are struggling with the dilemma of slowly growing stock of unsold items, while they should be pushing out new models.

It is possible that soon the golden days are over even for Canikon. But unfortunately that doesn't automatically mean that it'll be a bonanza for Pentax. It just means that there is a big oversupply of cameras on the market, as people aren't buying them as much and as quickly as the mainstream players wants us to. Even planned obsolescence and herds of preconditioned gadget nerds with very short attention span will only help them thus far, after which the market is simply full. At least for a while.



Back in the day when Nissan was still called Datsun, the world was slightly different. But it all started to change in the mid-90's,when the internet became mainstream, and the change carried on for a decade or more. Today's winners are the likes of Walmart and Amazon, who control the delivery chain with minimum of effort and expenses. Others have to survive by adapting to different business models, and/or serving a smaller niche market.

BTW, Datsun and Toyota were the market leaders eleswhere, too, but outside the US, Honda never became a major player in the car market. Not even in the top 5, I believe. So if Honda did better in the US, that must be something they did to their sales and distribution, rather than to the cars themselves.

It doesn't really matter if your product is technically unique or even superior any longer. One could argue that Pentax are making much more interesting cameras than Canikon, Ducati and Triumph much more interesting bikes than Honzuyamasaki, Alfa-Romeo more interesting cars than Toyonissan, etc. Indeed they are, but it doesn't matter. Despite their impressive merits, all those aforementioned players are the underdogs in the market. What matters in the mainstream market is something quite different.

One could also argue that Apple's computers and OS were much more comfortable to use back in the day than the generic PC's and DOS/Windows, the Sony Betamax was technically superior to VHS, etc, etc, but again, it didn't really matter. Windows and VHS became the market leaders, anyway, and it had nothing to do with their technical merit, or with the products themselves. It was more about logistics and volumes.

Many people still can, and do gravitate towards Pentaxes, Ducatis, Alfas and so on, but the masses will still flock around the big mainstream giants, whatever they're offering. The mainstream masses won't buy a Pentax camera, until Pentax become mainstream, the new hip thing, and thus a brand that "everyone" is already using.

It is quite possible that Pentax might some day do a comeback in the mainstream and stick it to Canikon like you visioned, but the point is that it's not that simple any longer. Nowadays it's much harder than it was back in the days of Datsun and Pentax Spotmatic.

According to some business analysts, however, getting back in the mainstream may no longer be such a big deal, after all. Not for entities like Pentax, who wish to be unique and different. If you believe what business gurus like Seth Godin are writing, the likes of Pentax may well prevail in the niches, and the mass market mainstream is already crumbling. What matters is that you create value to your customers, a scarcity they won't find in the market oversaturated by Canikon and the Walmarts of the world.

So all in all, I for one am not worried about small brands like Pentax not making it back in the top, and sticking it to Canikon. I just wish they will remain innovative and passionate, and will come up with great products for the passionate niches, like the people here. If it's imperative for you to be in the herd of the "winners," by all means go and get yourself a Canikon.

Oh and by you I don't mean you Lauren, but just "you" in general.



Maybe, but looks like it could as well be Sony, for example, or even Samsung. Or both of them, or maybe together with Olympus and Pentax. Maybe there will no longer be just one next big thing, but several different things. I kinda hope the latter will be true. Monocultures are boring.

Anyway, because of the reasons mentioned above, if Pentax wishes to be the next thing, they will have to come up with something completely new. Just a K-3 with a FF sensor won't be nearly enough. But I'm not saying it couldn't happen. We'll see, eventually.

But this is drifting a bit off topic, isn't it? :)
I hope there will indeed be Jessop's and other traditional brick and mortar camera stores in the future, too, selling Pentax and other fine cameras, and not just umphteen different flavours of Canikon.
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