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Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 06-18-2013, 07:20 AM  
K5 vs K5II (ordinary)
Posted By Kristo.
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Dear vboy, how exactly is your picture helpful in this thread? An aperture of F36 is way over the diffraction limit and it does not give an accurate result for comparing image quality and with the deep depth of field it is impossible to assess the AF accuracy. Nevertheless the K5 and K5II should be on par concerning IQ, so just one nice picture is not helping to decide whether the K5II is a significant improvement over the K5.


I can see that you are praising the K5's shake reduction mechanism, but isn't it the same as the one in K5II? So the effectiveness of the SR is not actually a topic in this thread. Or if they are indeed different, then this picture alone still says nothing, because one needs to compare it with something and pictures taken in different (uncontrolled) environments just aren't comparable.



I am sorry if this seems offensive. I do not intend to be, but please try to focus on the subject which is the difference and advisability of the two cameras.
Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 06-18-2013, 04:57 AM  
K5 vs K5II (ordinary)
Posted By Kristo.
Replies: 11
Views: 8,687
Let's try to look past the exact prices and discuss on the differences of the K5 and K5II (not s). And perhaps, if you would like to consider the price factor, then maybe you could say how much you'll be willing to pay more to get the advantages of the K5II over the K5.

On that information I can perhaps judge how much of an improvment the K5II is. I cannot make reliable assumptions trying the cameras in a store, because there is always a lot of light and quite contrasty subjects so the results would be misleading.

The aspect of the K5II being newer and having longer/better support, is ofcourse a good point and worth taken into consideration.


That is more or less the same thing I am experiencing with my K20D. I was quite frustrated by the fact that i could not get consistent results with my FA50 F1.4, because if I'd adjust its AF indoors, the results would be totally different in natural (outdoor) light. I tried with two different lenses and the results were similar. I had to adjust the AF all the time. To hide the effect of misfocus, I stopped the lens down, but then I lost most of its potential and purpose. I ended up selling the lens.

And then there are my friends with Nikons and Canons, who shoot with wide apertures and apparently never miss focus. Once I had to work with a Canon 5D mkII, the button layout and handling of the camera was rubbish compared to Pentax, but nevertheless all the images were focused spot on. Therefore I doubt it is user error (using an uknown camera should then be even more prone to error).
Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 06-18-2013, 02:53 AM  
K5 vs K5II (ordinary)
Posted By Kristo.
Replies: 11
Views: 8,687
I live in Europe and the prices are much higher here.

For example the K5II in Amazon.de is about 1150 USD. If I add shipping, I might aswell buy it straight from the local dealer.

I guess ordering from the US is not a great option aswell, because then there will be the customs tax, shipping and I will probably lose warranty.
Forum: Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 06-18-2013, 02:12 AM  
K5 vs K5II (ordinary)
Posted By Kristo.
Replies: 11
Views: 8,687
Hello,

I have been using my K20D for more than 5 years now and I am overall quite happy with it, excluding the AF performance, which has been bugging me from the very beginning (poor low light performance, inconsistency etc) but nevertheless I have made quite a lot of nice pictures with it.

The K5 shoud have a better AF and loads of more dynamic range and a far better high ISO performance. Actually I would really like to have the latter features, but as the K5 was expensive quite some time and the K20D still did the job, I was not too eager to replace it. But things have changed. I can get a brand new K5 for about 900$ (whereas the used ones are around 650$ and people pay 300$ for the K20D). As I would sell my K20D, the actual price of a K5 would become about 600$, which seems little money for the upgrade and thus reasonable, before the K20D prices drop down to nothing.

But now there is the K5II and the K5IIs, which cost 1300$ and 1600$ respectively. So the KII is about 400$ and the KIIs 700$ more expensive than the original K5. It is more than obvious that I would not pay about twice the price for the IIs comparing to the K5, but as my main concern was the AF of the K20D and the K5II is said to have a noticable edge over the K5's AF, then i might pay the extra 400$ for the K5II.

At this point I think it is not the question of whether I should upgrade (or is it?), but whether should I go for the original K5 with its low price, or pay extra for the K5II and get an even more improved AF. Is the difference of the AF performance of the two enough for the 1/3 higher price tag?
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