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Forum: Post Your Photos! 03-27-2019, 04:40 AM  
Sports Nike Phantom Venom
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 5
Views: 615
There are focus stacking from 5 frames

Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio 08-12-2017, 01:27 AM  
Pentax K-1 + Godox QT 600 II + Cactus V6II + Godox X32C
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 1
Views: 1,300
1/8000s, HSS activated on the flashlights

...
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 03-18-2017, 05:51 AM  
AF Frustration - seriously considering buying a Canon DSLR
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 99
Views: 9,772
DA*300 + K-3 is very capable combo for air planes. Focus is fast and precision enough.
Forum: Post Your Photos! 08-10-2016, 02:08 AM  
Abstract Abstract art - rayonism
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 5
Views: 1,784
Abstract art - rayonism
Forum: Photographic Technique 02-11-2016, 02:01 AM  
Image noise in DSLRs and mirrorless cameras...
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 21
Views: 3,709
According to physics the light has dual nature – like photons and like wave. As consequence of this dual nature, the noise always appear, in every digital image – sometimes it is invisible, sometimes it is annoying and intrusive. Photographers are in constant battle with it from their first shot on.

But now I am going to write about some other noise, the one connected with the camera and the equipment with which we are working. The noises generated by different reasons in the camera are too many and too different and I will analyze their influence over the final result.

In one modern camera of nowadays, no matter what technological scheme it has (mirrorless or DSLR), the light collector is the so called digital sensor, which is composed of millions, placed one by another, light convertors. I am not going to look in details the different constructive realizations, but their common thing is that they are all analogs.

Yes, it is indeed curious, but the fact is that the so called digital cameras are in their nature analog-digital. No matter what is the specific technology of the photo-receiver, after it reaches certain potential, the digital sensor is “read” and the data is sent to Analog digital converter (ADS). This ADS measures the gathered in every single receiver potential and converts the result in digital format, e.g. in a digital number. From that point on we can call the camera “digital”, because all subsequent actions will be only with digital data and within digital environment.

The aim of this article is not to analyze the methods and the ways of the digital processing of the signals. I am going to focus basically on the noise problem and the cause of its appearance in the analog part of the process, that is to say in the sensor – before it is converted into a digital amount.

From where, after all comes that extra noise? The function of the light sensor is to capture a photon and to transform it into an electron. So far, so good - certain amount of photons are coming, they are transformed into certain potential, i.e. into a certain number of electrons. Essentially we can compare this construction on a capacitor with a certain capacity.

But the electrons can occur there at the same place for other reasons determined by the physics. The main factor is the temperature. I suppose that everybody remembers, from the first physics lessons that the temperature in nature is the average kinetic energy of the atoms and molecules in a certain system. The higher the surrounding temperature is, the bigger is the chance of random electrons to be accumulated in our hypothetical capacitor, without having come in like photons. In other words if we heat the sensor, surely the higher the temperature, the more it will increase the number of the accumulated electrons, which have not been photons. And now starts my essential thesis, aimed at cameras.

The temperature of the sensor, of course, is determined by the temperature of the entire camera as well as from the temperature of the surrounding environment. But there is another factor that is particularly important. A serious reason for the temperature rise of the sensor is its working process and that of the electronics around it. The forced movement of the free electric charges, or simply put the conduct of electricity in one chain is accompanied by the release of heat due to losses, unless the chain is made from excess wires, which are still unavailable in the cameras. And these losses, according to the laws of physics are in fact heat.

Or in shorter and in simpler way we can say that if a camera works, it inevitably produces heat and that causes the increase of the noise under the same other conditions. Actually the reason I am dealing with this problem is an analysis whether and how the noise increases and how this in practice affects the final result – the photography.

At the moment I have available the ideal composition to determine the influence of the temperature – Pentax K3II. The camera is perfect for that purpose, because it is DSLR and I can test it either in a short time working mode of the sensor or in continuous mode - the so called live view, so that to be able to see the difference.

Of course, I will surely check, how the camera behaves at temperatures below zero of the body, at normal room temperature and also at that around the maximum levels to which the manufacturer guarantees normal functioning of the camera.

It is winter outside and it is the right time for testing the camera in real freezing conditions.



The room temperature of 20 degrees Celsius is easy to provide, so I give more attention to the upper limit of 40 degree Celsius, which according to Ricoh is permissible.


I supervise the process and do not rely much on the stove thermostat, because its tolerance is too big, so I am controlling the temperature by checking it with a digital thermometer. And of course I’m waiting for 30 minutes at that temperature, to make sure that the camera is heated evenly inside.

What follows is a photo material that can visualize the results. They are obvious and notable, but I did not intend them to be in exact numbers. This will probably be the subject of a future analysis, for the moment what I see is more than enough to prove my thesis. In order to have good consistency, all images, that I compare with one another and quote here, are treated in a same RAW->JPG convertor with the same settings, such as exposure corrections and so on.

In order to avoid possible problems such as light entering around the lens cap, every tested camera was with its front cap on, at maximum closed aperture and before taking the photo was placed in well closed 100% opaque box.

At approximately-5 ° body temperature, exposure 30 sec./ISO 100/~ + 4stops

At approximately + 40 degrees, 30 seconds exponation/ISO 100/+ 4stops


At room temperature of 20 degrees Celsius.
Fully tempered camera, which was not switched on at least one hour.

Exposure 30 sec,/ISO/100 + 4stops

The quoted image was shot immediately after the camera was working almost 50 minutes in live view mode.

Exposure 30 sec,/ISO/100 + 4stops


And a little more on this subject, I did four consecutive photos with Pentax K-3II at equal conditions ISO 100, closed front caps and in a dark. The only difference is that the exposure times are respectively 1/1 100sek sec, 15 sec, 30 sec. The camera is at the room temperature of about 20 degrees Celsius and has not worked at least one hour before the shot. Adjustment of the shutter stops 5 + (the same for all frames).





In the last shot you can clearly see how exactly the sensor starts to heat up, more at the edges and in the middle...

Up till now everything was connected with a single camera Pentax K3-II. Is it possible that all that is not valid for the other cameras?

Hardly. Physics is the same for all, at least for now, but the good practice requires a check.

I asked a friend of mine (Sabin Kolarov) with Fuji X-T1 to do the same tests, as the one above. The tests were made at the same exposure time and other conditions as those made with the Pentax K3-II. We did not made the whole range of tests at all temperatures (-5C….+40C), but we focused on two tests. The one at room temperature and that in the room temperature but after 50 minutes of camera working time.

The results was treated by photograph Sabin Kolarov and for a better visualization they are graphically presented after an analysis with RAW Digger over the RAW files.

Here is the result after 50 minutes working time, in the same other conditions. I have to note that the outside body temperature rises with 6 degree Celsius. Meanwhile, the camera was not held by hand but stood on a table.



Of course, we did a series of tests with a duration of exposure of 1/100, 1 sec., 15sek., up to 30 sec., as each of the exposure is accordingly: at the base ISO, that of ISO 400 and ISO1250. I am not going to bore the audience with quotes of the results, in short, there is a direct connection between the temperature of the sensor and the appearing noise. What is more important, we find that there is a clear connection between the working duration of the camera and the final result as a parasitic noise in the image at the same temperature of the surrounding environment.

That conclusion rises many questions. It is serious reason to put under suspicion all published tests regarding the dynamic range and noise, in which the temperature of the camera and its working duration before the shot, was not taken into account and quoted.

An even bigger question is that about the comparison between the different types of construction. It is natural that one DSLR even in a long hour working regime, if it was not in live view mode, will work in a much better conditions, in comparison of the equivalent of mirrorless camera that in the meantime has heated and its electronics has worked without interruption those same hours. In that case, I ask myself the question where exactly we must measure the dynamic range of the one and of the other camera? And which of the results will be the correct one? Because as you can see, only due to one hour working timeout, the results of the same single camera can be reduced several generations back...

This article, I hope, could serve to my colleagues for specific conclusions.

Knowing the problem, every one of my colleagues can do the comparisons I quoted above on his own and specifically for the equipment he/she is working with.

The conceptual basis of this analysis are the principals by which are made the astro shots in the big telescopes, where the sensor is obligatory cooled to a very low temperatures, which brought me to the idea of the same problems into the photo equipment.

I am sure that the sceptics who read the article up to here are already smiling and asking themselves, well, has no one until now thought about the problem and how the video cameras work then? In them the sensor is permanently activated and the same is the electronics. This is a serious argument and I made a research on that question myself as I consulted a colleagues from an official video technical service of one of the world’s leading video companies. I received a very clear respond from there – yes, the problem is well known from long time and it is very serious in the video cameras. To solve the problem in all serious video camcorders, the sensor MUST BE COOLED VERY INTENSIVELY. They even send me an image showing, how the radiator on which the camera must be mounted, looks like, for a certain model of professional video cameras. Here it is:



Probably similar solutions can be applied to the photo cameras, but considering the size of the sensors, it will be impossible, because it will cause a general increase in the camera size, energy consumption, etc. In this connection, the advantage of the DSLRs for some specific tasks is obvious (when they are not in live view mode) and the owners of mirrorless cameras must consider some strategies when making photos requiring long time working of the sensor. This, of course, concerns mostly for those cameras that have bigger sensor. It is of great importance what kind is the body of the camera, from what material, what size, and also whether it could and how well to dissipate the heat.

At the time of the survey I and my colleague noticed some signs, that suggest us that there are some manufacturers who adjust noise reduction according to the sensor temperature. This article does not aim to analyze this phenomenon, but surely in the future we will pay attention on that problem, all the more it was visible in the RAW files – something that cannot be easily avoided.

And after all, are the damages, from the published in that article effects, on the photos, so serious?

It depends a lot on the specific situation but even at 1/100 sec. are completely capable, in my opinion, to ruin one otherwise successful shot. And as a whole, the added noise and the reduced dynamic according to the temperature conditions, are more then what have been achieved from generations of technology development.

(Sorry for my English, it is not my mother language)

VPetrov-photography.com
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 12-21-2015, 10:22 AM  
Ultimate portrait lens
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 36
Views: 5,430
I use *55 together with FA77 because they together are excellent combination specially for stage and "heavy" portrait work. Usually I work with 2 pcs. K3-II with this lens.
And very important, both of them (*55 + FA77) are very close in color rendering, and optical quality.

Examples you may see there:

Държавен БАЛЕТ НА ЛЕД на Санкт Петербург с две постановки в НДК
Спектакъл "Пепеляшка" на Московския театър за класически балет
Forum: Pentax Full Frame 08-25-2015, 08:13 AM  
Can the Pextax Full Frame rival the outstanding Sony A7RII ?
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 114
Views: 17,566
Here (Световна купа по художествена гимнастика "DUNDEE WORLD CUP" - СОФИЯ 2015) photos with "moving" are made with Pentax K-3 and Pentax 645z approximately 50/50% (sorry, language is Bulgarian)

Just for demo two of them (one is with K-3 other 645z):



Forum: Lens Clubs 05-23-2015, 05:30 AM  
The FA Limited Club
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 11,821
Views: 2,134,633
retro parade - classical cars in Sofia with Pentax K-3 + FA 31mm:









Other pictures are here...



Forum: Lens Clubs 04-27-2015, 08:33 AM  
D-FA WR Club
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 671
Views: 137,267
Forum: Lens Clubs 04-13-2015, 12:58 AM  
DA* Club
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 5,898
Views: 942,659
Orthodox Easter in Sofia with *55 (K-3)


Full galleries are here...
Forum: Lens Clubs 03-21-2015, 08:46 AM  
300mm plus Lens Club: discuss your long lenses
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 40,821
Views: 4,315,205
*300mm, + flashlight

Forum: Mini-Challenges, Games, and Photo Stories 01-15-2015, 08:54 AM  
Thematic Post your Prime Portraits
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 733
Views: 90,373
Forum: Pentax K-3 & K-3 II 11-21-2014, 01:34 AM  
K3 vs Fuji Xt1 vs Nikon D610
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 34
Views: 13,229
Camera alone is not very important. Lens are! My choice is Pentax. Because have ultimate choice of primes, with no equivalent (my opinion).

To have right choice, better is to search in internet and look about pictures in condition which are near to your plans... Perfect MTF and technical parameters don't mean perfect picture, believe me ;)

Here are my reviews for:

Pentax K-3
SMC DA* 55mm f/1.4 SDM
SMC PENTAX FA 31mm f/1.8 AL
HD PENTAX DA 15mm F4 ED AL Limited
Pentax DA* 300mm f/4 ED [IF] SDM

and more...
Sorry, all of them are in Bulgarian, but pictures are possible to read in English... :)













Forum: Lens Clubs 10-13-2014, 12:20 AM  
300mm plus Lens Club: discuss your long lenses
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 40,821
Views: 4,315,205
Sofia, avio demonstration



directly again the sun:





More pictures here...
Forum: Lens Clubs 07-19-2014, 02:23 AM  
DA* Club
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 5,898
Views: 942,659
For me, SMC DA* 55mm f/1.4 SDM is like a diamond..., Some time is difficult to see differences between glass and diamond, but they are present...

Here is my review for SMC DA* 55mm f/1.4 SDM (be carefull, many and big pictures)

and some of them:





Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-14-2014, 04:30 AM  
For landscape, 15 or 21? Judging from IQ only
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 14
Views: 2,562
I don't have experience with 21mm, but spend some time to made test and review for 15mm. I try to present it, in different situation, may be, will be usefully for You.

review is here (lot of pictures in HD res)



Forum: Lens Clubs 05-20-2014, 03:36 AM  
300mm plus Lens Club: discuss your long lenses
Posted By Ventzy
Replies: 40,821
Views: 4,315,205
DA* 300mm f/4 ED [IF] SDM is very more than perfect for my work. Here are some pictures in different situations (sorry for my english, it is not my mother language)







detail in native pixel resolution



and use for portret pictures:



Very well balanced colors, deep and crystal clear.

My full review is here: (be carefully, lot of heavy pictures)

??????????? SMC Pentax DA* 300mm f/4 ED [IF] SDM - ADV-Bulgaria

Sorry, I'm not sure is it allowed link like this, but all is writen in bulgarian language and will be difficult to translate very soon.
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