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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-24-2023, 06:06 PM  
Ricoh/Pentax Interview
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 120
Views: 10,932
True photography? What exactly would that be?

I am sure that every photographer that ever took an image, film or digital, for any reason/use was certain that they were performing "true photography", and they were.

Many were also sure that they were making ART, and there is no doubt that many were, and many still are.

I do believe that some types of imaging will have to continue to be captured by a photographer using a camera. This would be things like live events, etc. I also believe that some number of hobbyists will continue to capture images as long as they can buy a camera or some new technology to do so. Right now, by far and away, the capture device of choice is a phone, not a DSLR or mirrorless camera.



Speaking of uninformed babbling, at the same time AI "may eat into the income of camera companies", a few odd hobbyists will generate enough profit (profits drive business, not income or revenue) to keep them making cameras and lenses?

As someone who spent over 40 years in electronics manufacturing of various types of equipment, including specialized imaging systems, I know that a few hundred or a few thousand hobbyists will not support a business as capital intensive as manufacturing cameras and lenses. This is even more true for things like the specialized sensors used in these cameras. That business has large research and design/development costs, not to mention very large capital investment costs in the plants and equipment to make them. At some volume level, it would not make sense to continue making sensors that are only used in cameras.

I guess that I am equally tired of people who act as though designing and developing hardware is simple and/or not very costly and that production volume doesn't matter.

The slowdown in developing and releasing new products is a direct result of the continuing shrinkage of the camera market. Less sales = longer ROI, so investment slows and sooner or later stops as there will not be enough sales to pay back the investment and other costs of making the products.

Companies that don't make a profit don't stay around long, and every image that used to be captured by a camera that is now generated by a computer (AI or otherwise) is one less camera sold by one of the remaining camera manufacturers.

I hope to be dead and gone before the day comes that I can no longer buy a Pentax camera, but time will tell.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 09-06-2023, 01:46 PM  
SMC DA* 55mm f1.4 SDM Focus Failure
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 18
Views: 1,101
Ha, funny. Me too.

I set a monthly reminder to change all batteries then charge them and to exercise lenses.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 09-06-2023, 12:03 PM  
SMC DA* 55mm f1.4 SDM Focus Failure
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 18
Views: 1,101
My DA 55 has AF issues as well.

I do not use it much and when I take it out, at first, it will not focus at all. After manually focusing it a few times and pressing the AF button 5 or 10 times, it starts to move. After a few more presses of the AF button, it starts to work and then works fine.

This used to be an indication that the SDM motor was starting to fail, and that might still be the case, but my lens has been this way for quite some time and the motor had not completely failed yet.

Knowing that the SDM motors are piezo types which depend on friction to move, I suspect that when they are left in one position for a long time, excessive stiction develops, likely due to a bit of minor corrosion (which, as I understand it, is one of the typical failure modes for piezo motors). The early Pentax SDM failures seem different than this, although early signs of "slow to wake up" issues were often reported, so who knows?

Getting the lens repaired is usually not worth the price, and that assumes parts are even available. This is a shame given the fact that the rest of the lens is usually just fine and many of the lenses are pretty pricey new.
Forum: Do-It-Yourself 09-05-2023, 07:10 PM  
Rescue the backup (C-MOS) battery of your Pentax DSLR if depleted
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 20
Views: 1,959
So, my K-01 developed this problem, probably because I do not use it much and the battery it was stored with finally completely ran down, and then the internal battery ran down.

I charged up a battery and tried leaving the camera on. No luck. I tried this with several batteries. No luck.

I tried powering it on and off many times. No luck.

Finally, I charged up a battery and left it for weeks, checking it every 3 - 4 weeks to replace the battery before it ran down.

I can now change a battery without losing the time and date.

However, if I leave the battery out for 10 seconds, the time and date are reset. If I change the battery within 5 seconds or so (easily done) it retains the time and date.

I did have a quote from an independent shop to change the part and it was reasonable (around $150).
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 09-04-2023, 07:17 AM  
Ricoh/Pentax Interview
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 120
Views: 10,932
While the camera phone has made huge advancements in almost every way, it still cannot produce an image that can be printed with acceptable quality at a larger size nor viewed full screen with acceptable quality on the TVs almost everyone has in their homes.

That being said, most don't care. They only view the images on their tiny phone screens or, at most, on a small tablet, but also, based upon what we have seen, I doubt that this will be the case for that much longer.

Having the camera with you at all times has trumped many other advantages of larger camera systems.

I carry a Google Pixel phone, and what Google accomplished with the software that produces the images in that phone is downright amazing. I can take a perfectly exposed handheld picture in very dim lighting that would require a tripod and a long exposure with my K1II.

Here is an example from a much earlier Pixel phone (Pixel 4a, 2018). The lighting in the street was very dim, but the phone got the exposure right, the varying colors of the lighting from various sources is correct and it is not overly noisy, all handheld. I just held up the phone and snapped the picture:



You are correct that this trend will continue and that software improvements will drive most of the advances in imaging rather than hardware advances (sensor tech, optical improvements, etc.) up to and including AI generated images that require no camera hardware.

Think about the displacement that will inevitably occur when you just sit at a computer and have AI generate lets say, a still advertisement for a car. No cameras, no lenses, no photographers, likely no graphic artists, no green screens, no sets, no lighting, on and on.

In any event, we are wandering a bit far from the original topic, so we should probably start another thread if we want to continue down this road.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 09-03-2023, 02:25 PM  
Ricoh/Pentax Interview
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 120
Views: 10,932
True, but basic research often runs parallel to design and development and may not ever be incorporated into the product.

In the case of cameras, given the state of the market, I doubt that very much basic research is going on at the camera companies. Some, like Sony, make sensors, so I presume they invest a lot of time and money into some very specific research related to improving sensor designs, but folks like Pentax likely do very little basic research related to consumer cameras.




Japanese industry is all about incremental improvements. They wrote the book on that subject, so to speak. I think that you may be right that some start-up approaching the camera market from a clean sheet perspective might end up with a better product, but I think the phone has fulfilled that role for the vast majority of people these days and I don't see anyone out there that looks willing to take that gamble.

I have no crystal ball, but the market is saturated with all sorts of cameras, new and used, and given the current high new prices and glut of used products, along with improvements in phone imaging, the general public just isn't going to spend the kind of money they did when consumer imaging went digital. Many of them have DSLR kits languishing in the closet.

AI imaging will likely cut into many aspects of imaging as well, especially advertising images and videos, further reducing the need for photo hardware, but I can envision even landscape prints being created by AI that are indistinguishable from one created by a person with a camera (or maybe even better).

Mirrorless certainly makes sense from a manufacturing cost standpoint but mirrorless is going to suffer from the same market trends as the rest of the camera business. It will not save the industry, only flatten the bottom of the curve a bit. It is especially hard to justify spending so much on a new mirrorless kit when one can buy the top of the line gear from 2 - 3 years ago for 1/2 the price.

It will be interesting to watch unfold, for sure.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 09-02-2023, 06:45 PM  
Ricoh/Pentax Interview
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 120
Views: 10,932
After spending the better part of 45 years in electronics manufacturing, from management to manufacturing engineering, some things that I read about developing and releasing a new camera body make me laugh.

Yes, Pentax and other manufacturers do use certain technologies in more than one body. Things like the main processor is just one example. However, short of re-using all of the molded plastic parts of the body and not changing the size or shape at all, all bets are off for much of the rest of the design as soon as you start changing other parts.

The K1 to K1 II is the sort of change that does work that way, and even that change was pre-planned leaving hooks and room for the extra processor.

Even after you spend months mocking-up and testing the look and feel of what the camera might look like (which always requires several rounds of marketing and management review and approval), just designing and tooling the molded parts takes many months and often, several iterations.

Also, since Pentax does not make chips and certain other assemblies like shutters, they have to work with outside contractors to either make what they want, or modify an existing design to the specs they are looking for. An existing shutter assembly might work as-is off the shelf, but the main processor would always have to be built/modified/coded to work with the rest of the parts in the system.

Cameras are very complex assemblies with hundreds of parts and a lot of very precise components that all have to fit and work perfectly along with being able to be assembled and calibrated with a reasonable amount of labor.

My guess is that, even with modern prototyping methods, CAD, etc., a camera development cycle is several years long.

However, I think that the release of the K3 III does bode well for at least one more generation of the K1. They have finally done the work to have a decent AF system, they can probably use whatever processor they used in the K3 III, so basic code is in place for things that are the same or similar (writing RAW files, Jpeg conversion, AF fine tune, shake reduction all would be very similar blocks of code I would think).

No manufacturer posts any development information, schedules or plans. You get what they choose to design and release based upon their view of what customers want and how the product will fit against the competition. Do bigger players release more products in a given time frame than Pentax? Yes, but they have all moved or are moving to mirrorless only (it is simply cheaper to make mirrorless than a DSLR and it has some well-known advantages, including robotic assembly, as well as some disadvantages) and Pentax has decided to stay and play in whatever niche market remains for DSLRs when the dust clears.

Hopefully, Ricoh will not decide to wave the white flag of surrender and will stay in this market producing Pentax products we all want and can use for the foreseeable future, albeit at a slower pace than we might want.

Lastly, is the pricing issue. I have been shooting Pentax sine the late 1970's. For many years, the brand was a significant value proposition, where the quality was as good or better than the competition at a lower price. About the time AF came along, they fell behind and went cheap, not trying to build products that competed at or near the top of the market. This never works.

Now, Pentax being still behind in some areas during the digital age, the consumers, conditioned to either the early value proposition or to the cheap years, are unwilling to pay higher prices for Pentax gear, often claiming the difference in price isn't worth the lag in performance. I have been listening to the price wailing for at least a decade, but I have also looked at the prices of things like the Nikon Z line (remember, mirrorless is cheaper to build than a DSLR) and Nikon pricing is absolutely eye-watering.

BH Prices -

Pentax K1 II, DFA 24-70 f2.8, DFA 70-200 f2.8 - $4700

Nikon Z6 II, Z 24-70 f2.8, Z 70-200 f2.8 - $6200

$1500 more for basically the same kit (yes, I know the Nikon will out perform the K1 in AF and perhaps some other areas like buffer depth/speed, but other areas do not favor the Nikon).

I wonder how many who complain about Pentax prices would run out and pony up $6,000+ U.S. for the Nikon kit?
Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio 07-21-2020, 02:58 PM  
Pentax AF360FGZ II no longer available in Australia?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 26
Views: 1,930
I bought 2 AF-360FGZ II flashes recently right here on the forum from a user in Canada. Both were in like new condition and worked perfectly.

There are plenty listed on eBay from several sources, most from Japan. It might take some time to receive them these days, but the Japanese camera stores are typically safe to buy from and most product is very well described and in good condition.

I checked keh.com and they did not have any, but that is another place to check.

I am not sure how much you want to pay, but flashes seem to be a rather highly priced in all brands, especially when comparing them to complex camera bodies and lenses.

At the end of the day, if we want Pentax to keep making the equipment we want, we have to pay the price that they set for the equipment, which allows them to make enough money to stay in business.

Good luck with your search.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-10-2020, 09:05 PM  
Pentax is NOT dead.
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 68
Views: 7,571
For the most part, it is true that everything companies do is aimed at profit and most things in the corporate world are judged on that basis.

However, that is not always the case. For example, companies will often have "Halo" products that may or may not add much, if any, direct profit to the overall picture, but exist to create or enhance the image the company wants to convey.

Mazda MX-5's are this sort of product as are Corvettes. Both probably do make some money, but are by no means mainstream and if they were to be judged solely upon revenue/profit contribution to he total, they would likely be axed.

Companies also sometimes have to be in certain markets to show customers that they offer a complete solution.

Where I work, we spent quite a bit of time and expense developing the products, expertise and experience to add a related service to our offerings. This area was very complementary to our core businesses, but as it turned out, took a whole lot more effort and returned much less profit than the other services we offer.

We took a hard look at cutting it altogether, but since our competition offered this service and our customers wanted a complete solution, we made the choice to scale the service back to the minimum we could offer and still keep the customers happy. The other aspect was that this work often led to other, related work that our competitor would get if we did not offer it.

The bottom line (pun again intended :lol:) is that business is often not solely focused upon profit of a given product or division.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 01-30-2020, 07:02 AM  
Lenses like the Nikkor Ai 105mm f/2.5.
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 7
Views: 2,699
This lens is not Pentax, but can be found under various brands in the K mount and seems to be well-thought of:

Vivitar Series 1 (Kiron - 22xxxxx) 105mm f2.5 (100mm f2.8) Macro Lens Reviews - Vivitar Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

Then there is the legendary "Bokina" by Tokina:

Tokina AT-X Macro 90mm 1:2.5 Review

I do not own either of these lenses and don't recall ever owning any of them, but they are pretty universally acclaimed, so there must be something to the reputations they have earned.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 01-23-2020, 12:28 PM  
FA 43mm, K 50/1.2, A 50/1.2 - which would you choose?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 41
Views: 2,963
I do not have a 50/1.2 and do not recall shooting with one. I do have the 43 and while I probably cannot objectively prove my opinion of it, I must say the rendering is just special.

I would choose the 43. It is compact, is AF and has that pixie dust rendering that isn't easily quantified but you know it when you see it.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 01-20-2020, 03:07 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA 70-210mm f/4 ED SDM WR
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 1,461
Views: 145,329
Redesigning a lens for FF coverage and changing the focus mechanism = basically a new design.

Having spent many years managing electronics manufacturing operations of various kinds, I daresay that most don't have a clue what redesigning something entails. There are literally hundreds of parts, many of which are molded/tooled, and any such parts that will not work in the new design have to be redesigned, then re-tooled from scratch, which is a long and expensive process.

Added to that would be new focusing mechanisms which have to be fitted mechanically, extensively tested, then sourced and of course programmed to work in the new design.

Lastly, and certainly not least would be the optical design, which is actually probably closer to first in the design timeline. The lens elements and focusing groups dictate the size and position of the glass, which dictates the overall size and then dictates the places that sensors and motors have to go to drive the focus, zoom rings and aperture, and that dictates tooled/molded parts needed to make it all work.

It is far simpler/faster/cheaper to take an existing design and re-tool the mount parts, develop the firmware for the new body protocol and specify what coatings you want. Look at the comparo of both lenses above and you can see how little of the tooled/molded parts had to change: basically none except any associated with the mount. The same is undoubtedly true of the optics, focusing mechanism and aperture control as well.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 01-20-2020, 06:59 AM  
What made you decide to purchase the K-1 over the KP?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 32
Views: 3,014
Well, ultimately, image quality is always #1 for me, and the K-1 with the larger sensor is one of the best cameras in the market in terms of IQ.

Otherwise, my holy trio (31,43,77) have always been under-utilized on crop sensors, so now they can get more work where they belong. My Tamron 28-75 f2.8, which had been sitting on my shelf since the film days, is turning out to be a pleasant surprise on the K-1 as well, producing much sharper images than I expected.

Also, the K-1 gives me the best of both worlds where I can still shoot my DA lenses in crop mode with results roughly equal to the K5, which was pretty good in terms of IQ.

I have a K3ii, so if I were to buy another crop camera, it would be whatever Pentax comes up with next, assuming it has significant improvements in some areas, especially AF tracking.
Forum: Winners' Showcase 01-14-2020, 09:18 PM  
December, 2019 Winner: Contemplation
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 52
Views: 2,467
I would like to nominate this photo
Forum: Winners' Showcase 01-14-2020, 09:16 PM  
December, 2019 Third Place: Mt. Fuji
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 35
Views: 1,366
I would like to nominate this photo
Forum: Monthly Photo Contests 01-14-2020, 09:16 PM  
Sand Dunes
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 10
Views: 456
I would like to nominate this photo
Forum: Monthly Photo Contests 01-14-2020, 09:13 PM  
Pedestrian Overpass
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 35
Views: 1,067
I would like to nominate this photo
Forum: Sold Items 01-03-2020, 07:39 PM  
For Sale - Sold: Pentax AF360FGZII (B)
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 2
Views: 1,029
PM Sent.
Forum: Pentax Medium Format 01-01-2020, 09:37 AM  
Do you trust your online storage?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 66
Views: 4,613
Yes, the mechanical parts of the drives are typically the main reason for hard drive failures, yet many that own WD RAID enclosures have reported failures of the non-drive control electronics, not drive failures.



Your average photographer isn't going to learn Linux, and should not have to. It seems to me to be a poor design decision to sell a product as a backup tool where the failure of a non-drive part leads to unrecoverable data from a perfectly good set of RAID drives.

To get back to the main subject, you have made a good argument for redundant backup methods so one does not have to resort to a crash course in Linux just to restore files from a backup system.
Forum: Pentax Medium Format 12-31-2019, 09:00 PM  
Do you trust your online storage?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 66
Views: 4,613
It is not at all unheard of with many WD external enclosures, as just one example. You can see this for yourself with a little searching. I have a 4TB RAID 1 WD external enclosure that ran pretty reliably for more than a year, but then got to the point where it would just run the fan at very high speeds and go offline. Resetting it did no good. I did finally manage to get the enclosure open without completely destroying it and replaced the fan. It runs now but has gone offline several times since, so I no longer trust it for anything although the drives are fine. The drives are encrypted by the board in the unit and not easily recovered without the board that is in the enclosure.

You can try to buy a used WD unit of the same model and swap drives to try and recover your files, and yes, a recovery service or someone handy with Linux may be able to recover your data ($$). Had the manufacturer just built a RAID box with no hardware encryption (or allowed for it to be turned off), then this would not be a problem.



Hard drive failure is a rarity? What world do you live in? Here is a link to the 2019 Backblaze drive failure report:

Hard Drive Reliability in 2019: Failure Rates of 108,461 Drives

Just for reference a nearly 2% failure rate is not really world class in terms of product reliability. Keep in mind that the Backblaze drives just sit and spin and are not toted around or powered up and down all the time like most consumer drives.

There is nothing inherently wrong with using an external (or better yet several that are rotated) portable HDDs as an offsite redundant backup. The key being redundant. After all, if the house burns down or a thief breaks in and steals everything, your RAID NAS or external drive isn't going to protect you. Your only choice is a Cloud-based solution or a portable drive that is removed from the premises. Backup plans used tapes in this way for decades.



Yes, having the option to turn off the encryption makes the backup system much more flexible should a non-drive hardware failure occur.
Forum: Pentax Medium Format 12-31-2019, 02:42 PM  
Do you trust your online storage?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 66
Views: 4,613
I think that every backup system needs redundancy, and a cloud option, along with local storage isn't a bad solution. If the cloud company disappears, you still have your local backup.

If it is just file backup (not sharing, slideshows, etc...) you are probably pretty safe with one form or another of Amazon AWS. This can be pricey unless you just want backup and not frequent access, in which case, you can use Amazon Glacier. It is $.004.GB for infrequent access and $.00099/GB for 1-2x per year access with restoration in 12 hours. I suspect that Amazon will be around for a while, and AWS is a big business for them.

If you have an Amazon Prime account, you can store unlimited photos and 5GB of video free with Amazon Photo, $19.99/yr, buys you 100GB storage (photos still unlimited) and $59.99/yr buys 1TB of storage and photos still do not count against the total. Sharing is easy.

One note that most never think about is that some external backup drives are internally encrypted and even if they are a RAID design, without the enclosure (which has the encryption chip in it) your data is inaccessible. I have a WD 4TB RAID box like this. If something in the enclosure croaks, you cannot get to your data. Many smaller external USB drives also are not normal drives and have the USB circuits built-in. If something goes wrong with the USB part of the drive, you cannot just pop it out and get your data off of it.

The main point is to not rely solely on one form of backup, and if you stick with that rule, you really do not have to worry very much about the cloud storage you choose.
Forum: Pentax K-01 12-31-2019, 01:59 PM  
My "new" (to me) K-01
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 24
Views: 11,352
Welcome to the yellow K-01 club!

I have a yelllow K-01 and I think it is "the" color to own.




I agree. I owned the K5 (a pair, actually), 2 K3's a K3II (still have it) and now a K1 MkII, and I think that the 16mp Sony in the Pentax bodies wasn't matched in IQ until the K-1 came out. As is often the case, Pentax has a way of taking the same sensor as the competition and squeezing just a little better iQ from it.

I don't have the DA 35, but the DA 40 makes the K-01 easy to carry around and I find the 40 to be tack sharp, maybe the sharpest lens I own. If you do not have a copy, you might want to pick one up and give it a workout on the K-01.
Forum: Pentax K-01 12-31-2019, 01:10 PM  
K-01 - why did it not suceed?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 206
Views: 17,503
Most here have already covered what seem to be the obvious issues with this camera, but I think one overlooked aspect was the fact that it was designed to use the normal K mount lenses, which is great for us existing Pentaxians, and very much in line with the Pentax way, but I do not think that was a selling point for non-Pentax users.

The requirement to use K mount glass without an adapter is what dictated the basic size of the camera. I think a new design with purpose built lenses that worked with a fully functional adapter for K-mount glass would have been a better choice. Think of the Q with a bigger/better sensor and better IQ.

The quirky design is cool in the minimalist style, which I understand might not appeal to everyone, but I do like it (except for the fact that it flips the lever on when I take it out of the bag).

Pentax could have been early into the mirrorless market, but even back then I am sure that they really did not have the resources to design another new mount and lenses in any reasonable amount of time, especially considering the fact that they had been developing a new system with the Q.

While tech back then wasn't was it is today, to make a splash with the K-01, it needed to be state of the art for a mirrorless camera in terms of performance, but it turned out to be worse than most point and shoots (albeit with a great sensor and vastly superior IQ to any point and shoot).

At the end of the day, it looks like mirrorless isn't going to save the industry anyway, so maybe Pentax made the right decision to focus on the enthusiast DSLR market and to cater to the very loyal Pentax base.

Oh, and yes, I have yellow K-01, which I do not use enough, but do like it and think that the 16mp Sony sensor was a sweet spot in terms of IQ.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 12-27-2019, 03:40 PM  
K-1 With Tamron 28-75 f2.8 Anyone?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 17
Views: 2,715
Yes, I am still tempted by the 28-105 for the extra reach and WR feature. I have seen images from the 28-105 that look pretty good and others that clearly have noticeably soft edges.

I do not mind soft edges for portraits that do not have a group of people as the subject as it is pretty much how human vision works anyway when we focus on a subject at a closer distance. The DA 15 is a bit like this, and as we know it has produced some excellent images and quite a cult following (yes, I own one).

Generally speaking I feel that Landscapes need to be as sharp as possible over the width of the frame. I shot a lot with the DA* 16-50 on APS and at the wide end, especially at wider apertures, it had a fair amount of distortion at the edges and was soft out there as well. The two were probably related.

If I follow my long term pattern, I will probably buy the 28-105 AND keep the 28-75. To borrow an acronym coined by a former Pentaxian on the other forums, I have consistently suffered from LBA over the years, an affliction I have not found a cure for... :D

Ray
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 12-26-2019, 07:54 AM  
K-1 With Tamron 28-75 f2.8 Anyone?
Posted By Ray Pulley
Replies: 17
Views: 2,715
Thanks for the link. The lens certainly seems to deliver very reasonable results for general use. Frankly, considering the price these sell for and the fact that they are much smaller and lighter than the other f2.8 options, I can't see why anyone would buy the Pentax 24-70 or 28-105 unless you really needed the extra 24mm on the wide end or the extra 30mm on the long end.

I tend to be a bit of a purist and favor IQ over most other factors, and while I have been (and still am to some degree) tempted by the 28-105 for an all-rounder, the reviews and many images I have looked at are just not very good at the edges.

The 24-70 is better, but the IQ is not in line with it's price in my book. It does cost a lot less than the Canon/Nikon similar lenses, but still not a great value proposition in my opinion. It is also quite large.

I do think Pentax could design a great 24 or 28-70, as the FA* 28-70 of the film era was an exceptional lens for it's time. However, in the face of a declining market, they are not likely to do so. They have the typical wedding set (24/28-70 f2.8, 70/80-200 f2.8) covered, and designing a better 24-70 would not bring new sales.

Ray

---------- Post added 12-26-19 at 06:59 AM ----------



A cat photo. Love it!

The transition to the background is quite smooth in that shot.

Ray
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