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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-29-2017, 04:13 PM  
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Posted By mikesbike
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The KP may drop further in price, while your other equipment basically remains pretty stable. Simply put aside a little savings account for it also. I've done that kind of thing. Your entire keeper lens kit is essentially a set of very good to excellent, yet compact lenses! Ideal for the likes of the unique KP. With its set of grips, handling should be excellent with any of them.

The KP is indeed a different animal from the usual design. But a beautiful one. My silver-body one I think is very classy. I adapt quite easily, because I come from a background of different designs, which are now "classics" like the MF days of the ME Super and before. The KP is somewhat reminiscent of such, being sort of a cross between those and current concepts. For instance, the front dial is vertical, so the grip area is more shallow, though you can attach a deeper grip. So there is an adjustment of sorts. But it is nice to be able to do things like quickly change the metering from standard-matrix to spot by using the extra dials instead of going to menu. My K-5 IIs has a dedicated control on-body, but then it is not as compact. I shoot with both, as well as my little K-S2, and find no trouble in adjusting to differences in design between them.

BTW, I did like my K-r. A nice-handling little camera for what it is. I used it often when I needed a smaller model with good low-light and general performance. But to some degree I did miss having the thumb and finger dial operation of my better models like the K-5 and K-20D, and their other better controls. I rarely if ever use any of the "scene" modes, which I still have on the K-5S.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-29-2017, 01:49 PM  
LBA - housecleaning
Posted By mikesbike
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To reiterate another thought- you have some top-notch lenses. To realize their maximum potential, it is worth serious consideration to sell both your K-30 and your K-r and get a KP. You would have a camera body commensurate with the build quality of your Limited lenses, offering outstanding IQ, outstanding low-light/high ISO performance, and gain a host of practical features also, such as the handy, programable control set and pull-out rear screen. Its only drawback is weaker built-in flash power in terms of distance. But that can be extended by using higher ISO.

I would recommend the silver version, since it is distinctive among all the black bodies out there, and it looks great with black lenses, being that it is really silver and black. You might also consider eventually acquiring a DA 70mm Limited for a fast moderate-tele, super high-quality addition to your super high-quality compact kit. It also does come in silver. It is one of the Limited series' outstandingly sharp lenses across the frame at all apertures. This way you would have an extension of your kit's FL instead of duplication as is the case with the 21mm.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-29-2017, 12:22 PM  
LBA - housecleaning
Posted By mikesbike
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I agree with mcgregni. Your revised list is sensible. I am glad to see you are keeping your very useful DA 18-135mm as well as the super-fine DA 20-40mm Limited. It is a super-zoom. Like a 28-200mm lens on a FF body. In situations where you'll need to instantly go from WA to tele, that is its true purpose. For instance, if you are attending a back-yard party of friends and family, you can do group shots, or instantly zoom to get a candid portrait, or anything in between. It's a great tool for various situations, with very good IQ, and still compact. I value both of these lenses very highly.

As to the 21mm LTD, I've found I use it only when I need extra smallness since getting the 20-40mm LTD. It is handy for that, and just a good FL for general shooting with a prime. But it is not WR, and of course has not the versatile framing of the 20-40mm.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-27-2017, 07:07 PM  
LBA - housecleaning
Posted By mikesbike
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I have very good, even excellent lenses I do not often use. Some are full-frame, retained mainly for 35mm film, which I rarely shoot. Their FL is not what I look for when shooting APS-C. After years of this situation, now Pentax has entered the FF market with a winner, so I am contemplating regaining the proper perspective of these fine lenses. So now I am glad I didn't get rid of them.

I do have some minor but decent lenses I should get rid of, and will.

The excellent lenses I don't often use, some only good for APS-C, include expensive ones, even Limited primes. However, my attitude regarding my equipment is similar to my attitude towards a tool chest, which harbors fine, expensive tools not often used. When the need does arise, the tool there. For instance, I don't shoot macro or near-macro very often. But when I do decide to get into it, or the subject matter at hand draws me into it, I really enjoy what I can get from my DFA 100mm f/2.8 WR lens. The WR allows me to shoot under drippy conditions, which sometimes presents the most charming closeup shots.

Couple of other examples are my top-notch tele primes- DA* 200mm f/2.8 and FA 300mm f/4.5 gems. I got the DA* 200mm back when Pentax was running some special deals, along with the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 lens. My thinking was I would thus avoid needing a very large, heavy 70-200mm f/2.8. I was correct, since most of my fast tele needs are covered by this zoom lens, and only occasionally do I also need the extra reach. And I only use these when I want extra-high quality and/or its speed for the extra aperture and shutter capability. Otherwise,my very versatile DA 18-135mm does a very good job. And my DA HD 55-300mm f/4-5.8 does a creditable job in good lighting. But when I need the extra-fine tools, I am glad I have them.

Not long ago, I shot friend's college graduation, taking place in a huge pro-sports indoor palace. The family and I were situated in a VIP suite looking down from quite a distance. I hauled out my big guns, taken in their cases and packed into a camera bag. I wound up using all three as the ceremony entailed the need. Afterwards, for family group shots, I had my DA 18-135mm along, which was perfect. The family was amazed at the quality of the shots I gave them. There are other examples as well.

I had a K-r bought new until recently when I gave it to friends, who were celebrating the arrival of their first child. Last year, I had replaced it with the K-S2 at a great price. I have numerous satisfying, and very special images taken with the K-r. But I've found the K-S2 to be a better tool in every way. And, it is still small and lightweight- in some respects smaller even than the K-r, yet with better controls and features, even better IQ, and having WR. So it is now my compact snap-shooter. I got the little kit-lens package for next to nothing extra. I continue to value this little tool because it is so little! Works perfectly with the small camera-so I gave away my old kit lens with the K-r.

My experience says this about your situation. I am rather in parallel with LensBeginner. If you are only interested in snap-shooting friends and family, not needing or ever looking for the extra-high quality the best equipment can deliver, I can see your point. But looking down the road is important. I can tell you, when quality is an issue, I found out for myself that though I was getting quality with my K-5, knowing that being better than what I got with my nice little K-r (which you may have also noticed with your K-30), that when I decided to also get the K-5 IIs (both got at about 1/2 price as outgoing models), I did notice an additional refinement of detail from not having the AA filter! AF was also better. This improvement in fine detail was more noticeable when using very high-quality lenses!

Now I also have the KP. No AA filter (switchable), very high resolution,very good color balance, very good dynamic range, etc. Very good handling for a relatively compact body, and having essentially pro-oriented controls and metal-body. If you had a KP and were shooting with your DA 20-40mm Limited, and looking for quality from scenics, etc. this experience would be very convincing for you, I believe. The more on-body, fully pro-oriented controls of my K-5 IIs still rule, but this is the tradeoff of the KP for being more compact.

I could see selling your 21mm, and 40mm Limiteds. Since you have the 20-40mm Limited, they would mainly be for times when small-as-possible is an issue. And you have the fast 50mm f/1.4 when you need more aperture and added reach. The DA 10-17mm is a fisheye fun lens, a specialty item, but not a linear true WA lens. It is very special as such. So for linear use, the DA 15mm f/4 Limited is very appealing, very tiny, with very good IQ and has low distortion for such a FL- the opposite of the fisheye zoom. Both lenses are very potentially useful for different purposes.

The 18-55mm kit lens is dispensable, as is the 70-300mm tele zoom. I only hang on to mine for film and perhaps being useful on an upcoming FF DSLR. I don't know why you wish to keep the FA 100mm f/3.5 instead of the Tamron 90mm f/2.8 true macro lens, which has more capability. I would sell them both to get my DFA 100mm f/2.8 WR macro!

The price of the KP has been drifting down. You might consider getting one if you are interested in quality, and in taking full advantage of the quality lenses you have! Since getting it, I find myself using my DA 20-40mm LTD, 15mm LTD, and DA* 50-135mm more often!
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