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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
03-14-2018, 02:42 PM
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where am i finding these prices?
(despite the fact that my answer was about why no AF adapters for optics from other makers exist to adapt them to pentax,..)thats exactly the problem... nowhere.(except on the used market)
i wrote
"would have to sell ... for an absolute battle-price.... " WOULD HAVE TO.... for gaining market share.
Market share means muscles. Since app 1 year or so we have options that come close to something that one could call lowest standard for AF.
and that is the K-70 with the 55-300mm PLM lens... again ONLY ONE LENS ... that is doing OK. when it comes to hit focus really quick.
Canon sold their equally capable prosumer bodies for way less than 1200 dollars INCLUDED a lens that can focus as fast or faster than the new 55-300PLM... :D
and now we hit the point where we are seeing an M50 mirrorless hit the market and we are galaxies behind(if you dont count in weather sealing as a feature that is important for taking good pix)
The Canon 77D for instance sells for app. 800 dollars inc. lens in a few online shops...
and it has all the features of the K-70 and CANON offers a multitude of lenses that are capable of focusing as fast as the 55-300plm or faster....
AGAIN, THE WHOLE POSTING WAS ABOUT: "Why it is not, or how it would be possible that we see more adapters for the PENTAX mount"
it is about marketshare.
and for gaining market-share, ricoh-imaging would have to invest real big in advertising, product placements(in popular tv-series and hollywood blockbusters) and would have to aggressively sell a camera like the K-70 for less then 600 dollars, including a lens at the tech-level of the "55-300 PLM"... for at least 2 years...
the only way to gain market share is to better build-quality and more attractive features like the competition...
(what for instance LX and Spotmatic did)
THEN it would be possible that we may see adapters for other lenses, with AF drive.(keep in mind they would also have to build in optical elements in those adapters since the flange focal distance wouldnt allow any other way for most AF optics from other makers since PENTAX mount has a pretty standard FFD app. the same as nikon.
and most optics from other makers.... like Canon for instance have shorter FFDs...
it pretty much comes down to:
you only find adapters to pervert popular lenses for very popular mounts... despite the FFD of 45,46mm..
nikon: 46mm, canon 44mm - what means nearly no... or less than no space to fit adapting mechanisms in between.(the space an adapter would use) the lens and the camera adapter
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
01-20-2018, 03:40 PM
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I understand the idea, but one has to note, that our market share isnt as big as Sonys, therefore Ricoh would have to sell K-70 and K-P like mirrorless bodies for an absolute battle price like 350 respectively 450-500 dollar with either 18-50mm or 50-300mm plm kit lens beforehand...
if they would do that and promote the system really big... with promoting it really big, i mean adverts in different magazines like VOGUE, mens health, playboy, billboards, etc. repeatedly for at least 2-3 years... just like Sony did when they penetrated the market with the Sony NEX cameras.
... i guess then the system would be spread wide enough, to make 3rd party producers think about making for instance a Canon EF to PENTAX ZK AF Adapter....
...because pentax itself wouldnt dare to, because they would want to sell their own lenses...
AFAIK there are only Sony A(Minolta mount) to Sony E(NEX mount) adapters directly from Sony wich offer AF and aperture functionality to users of adapted lenses.
And lookin at the Pentax side: We dont even have a Pentax 645 to Pentax K-Adapter with AF and aperture functionality(though I am pretty sure that would be doable)... much less 2 different ones like sony has for "A to NEX"...
so you better not hope you would ever see a useful canon lens adapter for a PENTAX ZK(theor. mirrorless) camera...if such a camera would be introduced at the upcoming CP+
Just think about the Tamron 150-600 lens... even though they know, Pentaxians would die for a lens with that reach-quality-price ratio... they dont build it for pentax cause
A) i guess since they are a contractor to PENTAX they are much likely to have an additional agreement to NOT produce lenses for PK so pentax can sell its 150-450 glasses first...
B) even if they would not/have no agreement with Ricoh Imaging/PENTAX, ... I am not so sure, if they ever would bring any lens for PK since the market share of Pentax K-Mount cameras is nowhere near Nikon or Canon
and if Tamron doesnt bring those lenses for K-mount you will hardly find any 3rd party camera-accessory producer that will build a functional adapter for you
most likely you would only get full manual adapters like most people who have that for mirrorless systems, give up on after using them for half a year...
If I where you, I'd rather hope on a much faster K-1, so i could feel like having Legolas at my side instead an Ork(K-1).
And if you ask me, ... looking at the FE lenses and when they are mounted on any sony a7 or a9 body, i would say, the size advantage is gone when you mount a lens on those things...
So if they want to make a (quasi-mirrorelss) they should defenitely do something like a K-01(with a more defined design) that behaves like a Sony A7RIII but in this case they should really do something about the AF system... or that ship will sink... just like the K-01 sank
(the thing people missed the most on K-01 was an EVF and a more decisive, decent and fast enough AF system...)
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
01-10-2018, 08:32 PM
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I'd rather like to see Autofocus-Improvements in the next full frame... Just thinking about other brands that shoot 12 pics per second (some even more) while retaining Focus in AF-C mode...
I also see having a bigger buffer on a camera being more important than an EVF.
Even having 30p 4k-video would sell more units than just packing an EVF into a usual PENTAX-body.
---------- Post added 01-10-18 at 08:38 PM ----------
And a joystick or intellipoint for quick AF point selection would also make sense, though I like the idea of having a touchscreen, one should note that a touchscreen(capacitative)could easily be compromised by humidity coming either from sweat, rain, etc. so it would be important to implement an option into the cameras menu that makes it possible to switch off "touch"
---------- Post added 01-10-18 at 08:42 PM ----------
BTW: Gunmetal Grey looks way cooler than silver finish options...
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
01-06-2018, 02:27 PM
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that may be true for you, but rest assured that many people who tried EVFs and worked with em for a while do NOT see it that way.
Nonetheless, I dont really feel in need for an EVF... would be happy with a tradtional OVF to.
Koski is totally right. TILT is cool.
but whats way cooler is TILT&SWIVEL.
i really enjoy tilting and swiveling the K-70's display... Its a charm for street-photography. *sigh*
would love to see a traditional tilt and swivel on a new lower res full speedy frame body that does good video jobs. *doublesigh*
enhanced EFCS functionality *triplesigh*
*sigh*
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
01-03-2018, 12:46 PM
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To me priorities(wishlist ranking -is) are more like:
1.) Better AF
2.) Better AF
3.) Faster Burst
4.) Faster Burst
5.) Bigger Buffer
6.) Bigger Buffer
7.) EFCS improvements
8.)xxxx
9.)xxxx
10.)high framerate video
11.)slo-motion video recording possible
12.)4k video
13.)xxx
xx
xx
23.) Touch Screen - for changing af point superfast in liveview (or EVF-mode*)
x
x
98.) detachable viewfinder-system for being able to change from OVF to EVF
or -> 99.) *hybrid viewfinder ("pop-in"-EVF)
I guess that goes for lots of other people too, who are not tooo special and would only need 1fps but 120MP.
Just wanted to say: I dont really feel the need for EVF.. though I think it would be cool to have one.
BTW: try a Sony A9 and see that you will have a hard time recognizing any viewfinder lag.
no one can deny its not real-time... but nearly. ;)
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