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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
08-17-2018, 04:28 PM
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it seems theY would NOT have to persuade you at least... :) me neither...
And again... i would pay 1000 bucks more... and dont care what "your" or "your" friend(whoever that is) would be willing to pay, and certainly i wouldnt hook that "who would buy what"-logic onto the price of the A7III...
Because if that where a thing to do... no one would buy a K-1 anymore... by this year. No One..
(Because not exactly everybody makes economical use of the 36MP resolution at all... and the A7III has nearly everything one would want from a camera...and costs 2000 just like you said.)
The failure in thinking like that may lie exactly here, where somebody says, that ONLY the usual/common PENTAXIAN would buy a PENTAX but that is just not true...
Not only advertising convinces people.... Convincing products do... they advertise themselves... Especially PENTAX DSLRS that would drop their AF-weakness.... would sell like hotcake with much less advertising than Sony has to do...
That is because the loyalist are still here and strong... and many other people at photog-magazines and reviewers are fond of the PENTAX design-directives, even if they mention their drawbacks... They would also like the company to get around that certain point and come with those one cam that brings back the glory days.... You just have to listen...
Northrup wishes only the best for upcoming products, but he cant cover the drawbacks of our gear... That does not make sense for a reviewer...
The guy from TheCameraStore.com ... he loves our gear... you can see it...
Kaiman wong and his friend... the same.... they over and over praise PENTAX products for what is there to praise ... but they also wont hide the drawbacks and cant...
Jared Polin... OK, no... forget him, i honestly think he is some kind of a programmed monkey who likes to speak bad about everything he can, to pretend he is cool. But he aint.
and there would be more and even more people in the industry who would love to see the PENTAX come back on its feet.(if we are lucky we can even reach the top of SLR sales when Nikon and Canon are slowly leaving off to mirrorless land.. People dig the SLR optical viewfinder so much, believe me... and the click-clack... Just a few hours ago(I was photographing ants in harsh sunlight), I saw, that an optical viewfinder is sooo much better than an EVF!!!!
So to keep it short, the people do still buy PENTAX, because most of the PENTAXians tend to be VERY loyal customers up to a certain point, because the cameras are rock solid, weather resistant and (despite those new'n'weird "wheel logic") are easy to handle and not overloaded with a 1000 buttons alongside their displays like some Nikon for instance... and their design really is convincing... because they look so analog and professional anyway, we dont have to do dirty trickery products like a Nikon Df to profile ourselves as "keeping it real"....
And whoever you say you are or who you know who knows what... I dont think, any person despite the guys on the executive floor of RICOH Imaging really knows about what costs what...
It could generally be said that people of the 21st century believe in some "everybody produces nearly at self cost"-fairytale... What would explain the sales numbers of iphones for instance..
. I .. do not fear such fairytales, because i know people from the industry and todays R&D and parts are cheap. (JFYI: a smartphone with a 5MP camera can be built for less then 10 dollars...yes you will say DSLRs are a whole other story and partly you would be right for sure... i dont question that... but in some way... its pretty close and many people would be astonished about the low production cost of a very average DSLR)
Since that is so..I actually think cost(s) for bringing a camera to the market are burried in some other places...
Like you said: Advertising (in this point I agree with you... companies have to fight for their presence on the market...and most of the time they will have to fill their cannons with money i guess.
-So yes, if you want to sell something you will have to invest some money anyway... Nothing comes from nothing.
And i guess it was kind of a Schrödingers Cat decision situation going on on the "executive floor" anyway. *>
Kind of a mexican standoff if you whish so...
but than some guy with a shotgun and a sheriffs badge on his breast came into the room and said, "lets keep it quiet and play according to the old laws.... because we dont know if people will buy into FF anyway since we have convinced Pentax-consumers and loyalists that FF would not make any sense because we had non." (AFAIR, "Fool Frame" was a very common word at that time, that was used several times by some "forum-old-bones" who are NOW suddenly as keen as mustard about/on the PENTAX K-1.)
>*... Because over at Pentaxeros the specs of the PENTAX K-1 where rumoured to be more closely to what now became the Nikon D850....
So sry, I really cant see your "Pentax Can't Do It"-Point ... here... From what I heard from Mr. Baus, I think K-1 sales numbers convinced them and a real Step-Up will follow this falls or next years springs photokina or on CP+...
First APS-C and then a more "suitable for the mass" FF DSLR.
At least i hope so, since rumor had it for a while that they actually should or would give up on APS-C at all and only concentrate on FF and 645
... What actually would not be a bad thing to do for 2-3 years... (after introducing a more professional APS-C flagship at first, of course...)
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
08-15-2018, 11:46 AM
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FTF: I have been using PENTAX gear for decades.
So an amen to that too, since there are a lot of OTHER pentax-fans than those forum members,
which are complaining, that price tags could be set too high for them
and therefore pretend to be happy with outdated (AF-)technology in their cameras.
And that is no way to go on.
Believe it or not, I would have paid 1000Euro more for a far more capable and up to date K-1.... that from a technical and strategical point of view should better have been more like a Nikon D850
That would not only have strengthened PENTAXs position in the MEGAPIXEL counting market, but would have made it possible to add a faster shooter in 2018 thats capable of competing with a Sony A7III...(not only from a technical but also from a price-tag point of view)
But now... this terrain is lost...
Dont get me wrong, I dont think its bad to have no or less money than others... And for that reason they should keep one cheaper APS-C model(like the K-70) in co to a flagship APS-C...
But its a good thing for sure to aim high and shoot mid, than to aim too low and put a silver bullet under the carpet.(again)
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