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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 10-19-2018, 06:35 AM  
D-FA* 85mm f1.4 also coming
Posted By H.Abendsen
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I really dont feel like I want to repeat, what i wrote before and many others already mentioned before on the forums.
even though clackers may not agree....
One can read very often, that people are demanding video... even if short afterwards they get "stomped" on for it, with a few "2 sentences"-posts form hardcore-forum members...
But i really have a feeling that "the loudest" ... with the shortest and sharpest sentences, dont always represent "the most".
- And those surveys.... yes if those surveys should be meaningful...
(despite that i dont know, how much of the members took part)All pentax users (and I really mean all pentax users) would have to be memembers on pentaxforums... And then all of those pentaxians would have had to take part on such a survey. which for sure is not the case... there is a reason, why I did not join in for a long time.... and that is exactyl that.


So please consider:
Doing R&D for VIDEO purposes, would do so many good things for still photography...

Despite that its obvious that a much stronger 4k capable CPU(/board) would bring many things that also stills photographers would profit from, just:
Take a closer look how much cool technological inventions come from "video R&D" so you can understand what i mean.

I dont remember when, but not sooo long ago, there was a discussion about IF or NOT there would be a way to keep:
high dynamic range
good high ISO performance
but at the same time noticeably LOWER the BASE ISO.

When i think about a feature(or better: a technological advantage) of the "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K and that one will also find in "pro-grade" panasonic video-gear.
(and i guess, they will utilize this technology for sure in their S1R body also since they want to kill off Sony A7/9 series as the jack of all trades")
I really feel this could be the solution....


DUAL NATIVE ISO


If you think about it, such a technology could eventually spare us any co-processor and free up ALL of the processing power of a new Prime on a faster board, to do other things much faster...
(AF.C)


But if Ricoh-Imaging keeps their head out of Video R&D... and thinks they know best without reaching out to others...
we will always be a step behind also in stills photography, because they just wont know, that there could be other ways then lousy co-processors that do classical software noise reduction thats hardware baked in, when they keep their heads in the stills-sands...

If you want to know, what DUAL NATIVE ISO means. you should take a close look... and CAREFULLY read the following:
Why Dual Native ISO Should Be the New Industry Standard
or watch:
High ISO, Sharpness & Autofocus - Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K - Q&A Part 1 - YouTube

keep in mind that for "DUAL NATIVE ISO"-systems it is not "cast in stone" that,

they have to have their first circuit’s native capacitor set at ISO 400 and their second at ISO 3200...
It could also just be like the first kickin in at 80 and the second kickin in as late as ISO 800 or 1600...

Just read about dual-native-iso and/or watch the vid, so you can imagine by yourself what that could mean for stills ISO range(or better said for a camera thats dedicated to stills like the K-1) if we keep base ISO 100 and kick in the second circuits native capacitor as late as ISO 6400...

I know, ...now many forum members will come up with the usual "What will it cost?"-angst... but I really do not care, since it seem to be no problem to set up a circuit board replacement service for MarkII upgraders,
add coprocessors to a PRIME engine which also needed a lot of re-engineering, adding touchscreens (to the GRIII for whatsoever reason). honestly people:
Do yourself a favor and stop worrying about R&D costs... you will under or over-estimate them anyway.
Just go straight and tell in here what you like to have for your cameras without caring about the loudest voice.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 10-18-2018, 04:23 PM  
D-FA* 85mm f1.4 also coming
Posted By H.Abendsen
Replies: 1,820
Views: 203,106
I also dont like the completely mirrorless idea...(hybrid would be cool though)... And that they'll improve video is kinda sure already...
They already improved the bitrate on the KP...

and you should keep in mind, that a camera that is capable of loads of cool video stuff like 4k, will have to offer strong processing power,

from which every stills photographer will profit...
F.I.:faster bus speeds... also mean faster burst rates nearly for sure,

faster CPU, means way faster autofocus...

better said:

*)far more accurate/deceisive AF.A
*)far more accurate recognizing of subject even in AF.S when "AUTO[all points] - focusing mode" is chosen
*)far more accurate and way faster AF.C(cause in AF.C d'cam has to take loads of input output actions to AF, and calculate all the time like:
"WHERE NEXT? NO. WHERE NEXT? HERE. ESTIMATING. NEXT HERE. YES. WHERE NEXT? POINT TO THE LEFT. NO. POINT UPWARDS. YES. etc. etc."
and having fast lanes and a capable CPU(or CPU with Co-CPU)... contributes very much in such calculations for sure.
Thats the reason why the K-1II is a bit better in terms of AF then the first ... because of the co-processor that helps out with the calculations.
But the coprocessor is actually only kinda "booby prize" or "consolation" if you wish so.
... its not that i would bother about that in the K-1II since Mark II version always only brought the little steps forward in pentaxland... thats normal.


BUT with the NEXT cameras... they should really level up the PRIME engine not only 2 but 3 or 4 steps forward....

or exchange it for a completely new architecture... (my hopes are not tooo high, but somehow i feel they could have done that already and there is a lot of developement going on behind the curtain, and that may be the reason, why we did not see any REAL big leaps forward on the GRIII


really... we need a way more capable/faster circuitry (board) overall for sure, because people have been complaining about autofocus for a very long time, and lets be honest, its the strongest reason for people to hop off...



so far the fantasy... but nonetheless ... video still may stay kinda "stepchild" status...

as well as autofocus... and good connections for tethering...

(will it be USB3.1[USB-C connector] this time??? or will they go back to USB1.0???)


but hey, at least you will get a touchscreen. lets hope you can count that as one of your important "photography features" and it takes your photog game further...


Sorry for the sarcasm, boys... but Ricoh-Imaging really earned it...

The only thing i really hope for, is that they dont forget to implement "Focus Peaking" in Video mode.
But maybe also that already goes too far in the eyes of some manager... who knows...? Lets wait and see.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 10-17-2018, 12:26 PM  
D-FA* 85mm f1.4 also coming
Posted By H.Abendsen
Replies: 1,820
Views: 203,106
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---------- Post added 10-17-18 at 12:41 PM ----------



Yep... and not everybody is willing to spend a fortune on dedicated video gear,
Especially when they already bought a 2.000 dollar ILC camera...
...wait... *looking at the date* .yep its 2018 - almost 2019... a gimbal is all you should need to do decent semi-professional video these days... thats my honest oppinion

Not every car with a sportive motorization and look is made to take part at nascar or Formula 1, still it makes fun to drive a round or two with your BMW M3 at the nürnburg-ring or at some hobbyist racing track.

you may find logic in what you say about dedicated video gear and may also be right(when you talk about the pro-sector) but people dont care... YOU DONT CARE. EXACTLY THAT was my point.
thats the essence of what I am saying here:

A brilliant example, why (not we, me or you)but much more the brand "PENTAX" or "Ricoh-Imaging",
should seriously think about becoming way better in VIDEO

you admitted yourself.. you dont need your K-1.
still you bought it. BECAUSE ITS A FULL FRAME.

and people will buy a PENTAX with 4k like it would be chocolate hotcake thats for free, even if it costs a bit more than 2000 bucks.
people didnt believe in K-1 still it was and is a huge success... everybody who works for Ricoh-Imaging honestly admitted that they never expected that they would sell so much units und that they understimated the markets demand for it.


Thats what I want to say. (BTW: You are not the market - the market is the market.)
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 10-17-2018, 12:06 PM  
D-FA* 85mm f1.4 also coming
Posted By H.Abendsen
Replies: 1,820
Views: 203,106
A brilliant example, why (not we, me or you)but much more the brand "PENTAX" or "Ricoh-Imaging",
should seriously think about becoming way better in VIDEO:

- way higher bitrates
- FullHD @120p
- 4k @(at least 30p)
- better video AF-C(better AF.C even for OVF shooting would also be welcome)
- log feature...
- Tilt'n'swivel display to become STANDARD.
- other memory media or shoot/record to a harddisk directly via USB-C

People who have a bit of money(and therefore buy some ILC instead of a compact) weigh in everything they read of, in some mag.
And admit it or not... who wouldnt love to have better video... oh god forbid... you might use it. :)

Since I bought my Sony RX100 IV, i am really getting into video... bought a chinese gimbal for it
and a rode mic...
(for recording externally, cause that darn little clicker aint got a mic-in. - actually the only backdraw i can see so far in this compact digital)


And now I am doing some really cool stuff with "Da Vinci - Resolve" which is the best - i say THE BEST video editing software for enthusiasts...and pros(up to some point i guess).
(!!! BTW --> Cross-platform--- Linux, Windows, Mac) Video Editing Software EVER!!
--- ITS also free as in "free beer"... (without the pro-features... and its already very pro without them).. just grab it, - watch a short tutorial... its so godd... easy and understandable very unlike some dubious applications that cost a goldmine and just make you feel puzzled when trying around.

Since the KP already has a bit better video-bitrate... I can only encourage everybody who also owns a KP and a DC or PLM lens... to buy yourself one of those cheaper chinese gimbals...
You will have so much fun with video so smooth and without any shake...


geez, i gotta stop,

the bottom line is:

People just buy into or want something because they THINK "GOSH THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE"... not because they need it.
and...(looking at myself) later on, they might fall in love with what they got, promote it and spread the word.


Cause i wrote about "DaVinci Resolve"
....Blackmagic came to my mind... Those guys really make some decent video gear and stuff...
since everybody seems to start cooperating now... (panasonic, leica, sigma ... Samsung...Fuji)..

IMHO Ricoh-Imaging should really consider searching for help .. talking about video... And when i take a look who and what is there... Blackmagic would be the best partner in crime for sure.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 10-17-2018, 10:40 AM  
D-FA* 85mm f1.4 also coming
Posted By H.Abendsen
Replies: 1,820
Views: 203,106
as if y. anybody who formerly was a "Full-Frame nay sayer" would now admit that he/she was wrong... LOL... isnt it my friends?

I remember all the sh1te I read on all the forums... all the oldbones where talkin like "uuhh...ahaaam ... nooho.. we dont need that" or: " FF stands for fool frame"
only a few people who got dropped or banned later on complained that they want one and that it would be a good idea.
twas the same on every forum startin at dpreview-- over comments on photo-mag-sites to pentaxf.


And now... everybody seems to feel entitled as a FF Pro. :) - two-faced talk all the time. - they are demanding Zeiss glass and at the same time those basterds say 1.199Euro is too much for a lens that could actually sit only one step below a 3.000Euro Otus lens on the winner's podium...

Thos. f.heads even tried to twist the deal between Tokina and Pentax and say its vice versa... like pentax would not be able to create own lens designs...
The same weirdos stating all the lenses come actually from Tamron(and Tokina which they often confuse with each other)...
and dont have any clue what the *-signature stands for...

according to my knowledge, 70-200, 150-450, as well as 28-105 and DFA* 50mm 1.4 are all original Pentax design whilst the 70-200 being the only one wearing a *-sign at first since its original pentax design PLUS a premium(very fast-->rather low aperture throughout) lens...

I sincerely hope people stop nagging about the prices for DFA* glass. I understand the need for cheaper glass also somehow.
But fellas, there is no sense in buying a 36MP FF without low-pass filter and then only put on oldnmouldy or cheap glass...
We need quality glass since this is where the train should go for pentax.

And the DFA* 50mm 1.4 delivers stellar results... and the DFA* 85mm 1.(?4) will do the same no matter if some people at dpreview are whining because they dont get it for free as a present.
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