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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-26-2010, 09:25 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
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Heehee! Yay! I hope it shoots well: I doubt they test em very exhaustively when they make the condition ratings. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-23-2010, 07:23 AM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
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Heehee. I think I was tempted by that very one, last time I poked in there. (I think it was about this thread, actually, checking prices.) I'll be abstractly-curious what you get. :)

At least, if that lens looks really beat, when someone asks, 'What *happened* to that lens?' you can say, all deadpan, "Train wreck." :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-22-2010, 06:10 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
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Nice. :) I'd mostly want it for more ease of focusing when my eyes become tired, really. But I could find use. :)





Heehee. That, it can be. I'm glad I'm not a real lens fiend, but there's always something. It's something to keep me active, anyway, as much as I can be, anyway: my ambition's really to start breaking even, month to month, just investing in what I can while I build some digital skills and kind of wait out the lousy economy. It's been a long sort of process, that way. The timing might even work out, though. :)



I've been considering doing the same thing with a Graphic or other old press camera: I've got a lens-shutter I've managed to hoard through all the years, that ought to work nicely if I find the rest of a rig. LF's for later, though: Got enough going on just now. :)

As for formats, it all depends. Given I'm often either low on energy or, in some places, chasing light that won't last, (or of course, people,) that means a lot of handholding, and I suspect that a 45 degree finder on square format would just be a lot steadier for me: and there'd be some cropping ease about it, simplified bracketry if I do anything studio-like, etc. I've considered even going with some combination of older Hassie and Kiev stuff, depending what fits together. Haven't really explored that in depth: don't really know the models. Something out of the Bronica Sq series might do, too.




Does sound potentially-useful, though. Something to maybe keep an eye on for the future. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-22-2010, 12:35 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
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Ah, missed this reply, before, thanks, Ben. The 70 does look like it'll do nicely qualitywise: I'll just keep an eye out for one, and see what they come down to. I could surely use the speed of a 1.9, but it'll have to wait till I can afford a decent one, I think. The 2.8s are so cheap and common that I think I'll probably end up just getting a slightly-rougher one for the time being, to have for mostly utilitarian purposes where the 110's just too tight.

(Trying to not spend too much on Mamiya 645 at this point, since I'm unclear on what medium format work I'll find myself stressing, anyway. I may wish to go square-format or 6x7 after the next move, depending where that's to, and we may be gearing up for a move by the time so I'm just sorta hanging out here. :) ) I'm almost done getting what I need for the Pentax digital,
and kind of looking forward to slowing down on the major gear acquisitions for a while, once we get some kind of computer thing going here, so I can really concentrate on a proper study of post, get a little bit of an inventory of prints together, try to get some cash coming *in,* then maybe see. :)

The zoom's kind of an interesting concept, never looked at one, given it seems kind of nonsensical to put a zoom on MF. :) ...slower, I presume?

I wonder a bit about them, though, both that and the longer one. Where I lived last, it was pretty scenic, but hilly in a way that meant it was always hard to get the angles on things to really capture the place: made me want to go longer and occasionally wider than I usually do: I really wanted to take advantage of the bigger negative for some local interest prints, nice big enlargements and all that. I'd presumed the quality compromises in a zoom wouldn't be worth it. ...I'd figured on one of the 150s, back then.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-21-2010, 03:53 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
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Yep, Ping has the very source of foam I was mentioning. :) 'Interslice' is run by a real stand-up guy.

As for any shipping-parts-cameras things, I can still take things down, if it's about shipping, if you need to work around postage. The only problem is I'm in the same state as KEH, which might mean (big) sales tax. And there's a bit of a shipping minimum. Either of which could conspire to make it not worth the exercise, but I'm not so arthritic I can't gut something and airmail some pieces. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-20-2010, 12:00 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
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I wonder if anyone's ever tried the 70mm LS lens for Mamiya? Kind of wondering how they are as lenses.

My 80/2.8 has a lube problem: gummy lube finally gave in down here and oiled the blades, (this lens could be up for a modest trade, if anyone tinkers. It's actually in lovely shape, apart from the lube, which I think is its only problem. (think it was stored a long time before I got hold of it. At least I think all the parts are pristine. :) ) ...Planning to replace this with another, next time I can spare what a BGN one costs, but I might not mind going a touch wider, even if the actual LS is off, and the price is right: for FOV's I pretty much just like something a little bit long and a little bit wide: (in this case, rather little indeed, on the long end: I'm in love with the 110, and that's only like 65mm equivalent. That's OK, though: what I like to do with the 645 is pretty much to shoot as I would with 35mm and use the bigger film to just take in more than I usually do. :)

Anyway, we'll see. There'll hopefully soon be an upgraded computer in the house, and I'll need to lay hands to some PSE. Then there'll be time for some of these 'little' neglected things. I've been itching to get out more and shoot with this fellow for a couple of weeks, now. Hard to be in the mood for MF when you're creaky, though. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-20-2010, 10:55 AM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
Views: 39,001
Maybe if there's any more of those As-Is 645Js or the like on Keh? :)

Wondering if you could sneak one of those on to some little tilt adapter, and have some fun with the bigger image circle. I think I've seen similar things for maybe Pentacon lenses or some such. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-19-2010, 07:35 AM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
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Pretty sweet. :) Those fast 80mm's are a fun thing.

Sounds like we could start a little Mamiya club right here. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-09-2010, 08:51 AM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
Views: 39,001
It's more than I would have *risked,* but if you have good function, it's not too bad. (especially given the error about the metered finder, I think I might have passed that one up: not that the unmetered finder is anything terrible: it's much lighter and less bulky than the metered ones, and a lot of those meters are just croaking or gone, anyway. Hang onto that piece. :) ) I think you can spend close to what you did and get one in a better condition from Keh, but I don't think the cosmetics are too hard to fix up, there, either, if that's all that's wrong. (hey, potential excuse to visit cameraleather com. :) ) If it works, the price differences will be forgotten by you soon enough. :)

I think you do have a strap from a later model: I think that the Pro and/or Super have a special lug on the right hand side to go with one of the winder grips or some such, and Mamiya made some of their stock straps to fit those just right. The good news is, someone might want what you have. :)

For straps, I think one of the best things going for these are the Optech 'boomerangs,' (actually called 'super pro strap' or something like that,) and they can be bought in a version that comes with Mamiya clips. (Actually, that's how I got into the Optech stuff, despite skepticism of potentially-boingey neoprene. :) )




Good luck in field trials... I'd definitely take the suggestion of checking the door seals, mine were really bad when my 1000s arrived. (If it comes to changing them, I suggest going to... Who's that fellow with all the instructions online... He sells kits with varying thicknesses quite reasonably, and I think some thinner-than usual stuff is in order here. :) )
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-08-2010, 03:07 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
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Hrm, I dunno. It's highly unlikely 'the meter is accurate,' as that's not the metered finder in the pictures... Seems maybe you paid more than you had to, especially for that condition. Could still work, though. Kind of the luck of the draw in these matters.
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-03-2010, 11:22 AM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
Views: 39,001
Hee, yeah, there's advantage and disadvantage to the interchangeable backs, if you asked me. Capacity to switch films easily is really nice, but you have to carry all that stuff around to take advantage of it. :) (Love those Mamiya 6 type cameras, too. I used to want a Plaubel Makina 6x7. :) )

With Mamiya, I guess you can pretty easily have it both ways, though: the older models like the M645, 1000s, and J, have the non-interchangeable backs, and the Supers and Pros and TL's have the whole enchilada. (Bronica once made something similar to the M645, but that's an entirely different system. Real class, though. Took Nikon-made glass. :) )
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-02-2010, 06:35 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
Views: 39,001
This would be one of those 'couple lenses' of particular use to me. :)

I do not yet have one... will get to it, sooner or later, if I don't change systems.

Fast lens fiend that I am, very useful. I got good digital faster than expected, though, so I'm sort of reconsidering my MF film's role in my world, here. :)

Also, look at the 110, anyone who goes Mamiya 645 and likes people. This is much like shooting my old Canon 85 in 35mm, only you get more FOV. Is a thing of beauty. :)
Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands 01-01-2010, 07:12 PM  
Mamiya M645 vs. Bronica ETRS questions
Posted By Ratmagiclady
Replies: 52
Views: 39,001
Yikes! More like the 'drop test'! Sad sight though.

I would say the systems are on a par for overall quality, in terms of results. Probably the Bronicas are built tougher, (been a long while since I've held one, ) and a lot of the ones you find out there kind of show it. :)

...the Bronicas can be *much* heavier than the old M645, (without interchangeable backs, the Mamiyas can be very light indeed for something like this if you don't have one of the bigger metered finders on there.) but I wouldn't consider the difference a deal-killer, by the time you load them up with grips and prisms.

The lenses are lovely, certainly.

Both fine systems, to my mind, I would have bought either one when I got my Mamiya. It came down largely to which I found a deal on, first. The tradeoffs for me came out about even on balance, considering my plans at the time.

(Mamiya has a couple of lenses to my taste, Bronica has the leaf-shutters and a 'rotary finder' option that would have been pretty useful to me. )
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