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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-02-2017, 03:06 PM  
How 'Bad' is DAL 18-55 vs Other Options?
Posted By stevebrot
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Yep...What he said ^ ^ ^

That being said, I too have 45+ years of shooting in the all-too-often-wet Pacific Northwest without a single incursion. I also have NO WR or AW lenses in my current kit. In general, I don't treat my K-3 with Sigma 17-70/2.8-4 (C) any differently than I have my Ricoh XR7 with Pentax-M 50/1.7 (my walk-around film kit from 1982 to present). What this means is:
I treat both as fragile tools subject to damage by moisture, dust, impact, vibration, and extreme temperatures
I don't believe my practice would change much if the lens on the K-3 were WR, though I am fairly confident that risk of incursion would be lower than with my current kit.

In regards to the 18-55 kit lens, my advice has been and continues to be that users buy the WR lens, if for no other reason than to have the option for extra protection in the bag. I may yet do so for myself. ;)


Steve

(...noticed that Ricoh is bundling the KP with the DA 18-55 WR as a temporary promotion...apparently they feel it is up to the 24 Mpx challenge... :p )
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 10-30-2017, 10:46 AM  
How 'Bad' is DAL 18-55 vs Other Options?
Posted By stevebrot
Replies: 67
Views: 8,078
I was referring to my Sigma 17-70 which is the current version. I bought it on the basis of this review...

Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 Contemporary Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

The next two previous versions were reviewed at...

Pentax 17-70mm Lens Comparison Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

I would go for a new 18-55 over the old Sigma. BTW The DAL version does not include the very necessary hood. It may not be particularly clear which hood fits. It takes the same one as the DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 AL WR, the PH-RBC 52 mm. This is a different part than the hood for non-WR versions of the 18-55 kit.


Steve
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 10-30-2017, 10:06 AM  
How 'Bad' is DAL 18-55 vs Other Options?
Posted By stevebrot
Replies: 67
Views: 8,078
I did a lot of good work with the DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 (v1) on my K10D and know people who do good work with kit lens on the K-50. I bought the current-model Sigma 17-70/2.8-4 (C) (NOT the lens in the original post) when I got my K-3 and strongly prefer it over the DA 18-55 on that camera. Given the option of one over the other at the same price point for a K-50, I would opt for the Sigma, though with a few comments:
  • There is a penalty of both weight and bulk with the faster aperture

  • My 17-70 is heavy

  • Did I mention that it is heavy?

  • The Sigma generally costs over $400

  • The current 18-55 is WR


For examples, there is the "Kit Lens Club"... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/45425-kit-lens-club.html

I took this photo with the 18-55 v1. Current versions are reputed to have higher optical quality and definitely have better build quality.


Pentax K10D, Pentax-DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 AL v1

Ditto...



and this...




For a broader sampling on my Flickr stream...https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=28796087%40N02&sort=date-taken-desc&t...-55&view_all=1


Steve
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