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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-21-2018, 07:45 AM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
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And that is different than what Irix want out of this contest in what way? That's exactly what they want here too! They are trying to build interest in their product while simultaneously finding cheap labor to advertise the same product.




Then giveaways aren't a bad idea by your own admission.




Maybe it sounds like a zero-sum game to YOU. But that part is all in your head. 'Weighted in favor' doesn't mean 'Entirely in their favor' it means 'Weighted in favor' nothing more nothing less.

IMO - The value of the borrowed lens is minimal since that has minimal value. The fun of winning is minimal since your reward is minimal. Exposure is a minimal, fleeting object that every company wants to give since it costs them little to nothing. Common Joes freely supporting a brand also costs the company nothing so again there is minimal value there too. So these events have high upside, low downside for the company.

Perhaps John Q Public thinks otherwise, then go for it. I'm not stopping them...





Well we both agreed to this before we discussed this. So I'm not sure what your angle is...


All I said (as a number of other folks here also said -- watch the Dipsoid linked comic [crude language warning though]) was Irix's proposed deal is a poor one for entrants. With all due respect, If you have a problem with how I feel then that is your problem, sorry. But you're not changing my mind on this matter and I'm allowed to hold my own opinion, even if it is contrary to yours.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-20-2018, 08:47 PM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
It isn't those images they want... those are just a means to judge your abilities. After you get the Irix lens for the rental period the fun begins..
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-20-2018, 08:33 PM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
Then you are telling Adam that his K-1 giveaway this summer was a bad idea. After all, anyone entering that contest could have ebayed the camera had they won.

Yet they don't care who enters the contest just as long as the images are high quality enough.. and that is how it should be. Whether they keep the lens or sell it afterwards is entirely up to them (provided they were doing the right thing and awarding a lens for keeps).


Of course it is up to each entrance to assess whether they will come out ahead by participating in the contest, but it is silly to think that the contest isn't weighted in favor of the company. They're not looking for crummy snapshots of flowers and cats like we commonly see on here and other hobby sites.. but are picking the best of the best macro shots they can find (in hopes of getting some promo shots out of it for dirt cheap to them). You're working for the company.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-20-2018, 05:15 PM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
I understood that fully when I commented initially. But that is the same awful comment corporations try to make when they ask people on twitter or facebook for use of people's art for their promo campaigns. You're telling me a multi-million dollar company cannot afford to offer a 600 dollar lens to a few winners in a contest they're holding? Instead we'll give you a little promotion. hahaha no no that's cheap and unsatisfactory behavior on the company's part.

They can pay in a better form than simply promotion... in this case.. in offering one of these lenses as payment (or err reward).
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-19-2018, 09:05 AM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
I don't feel it is harsh in the least. And it isn't a review contest.


The contest favors them either way... it is the typical corporate promotion. The contestant is doing all the leg work.. from owning the equipment, to the expertise in using the equipment, to using the equipment, to sending in the photos. All the company is doing is figuring out which photos submitted they want to use and doling out a test lens for rental on a handful of contestants. Your reward, should you win, is literally to be a Q/A tester and promotional hypeman.. even more work haha.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-17-2018, 09:33 AM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
My thoughts exactly! This is a huge ripoff to the entrant :eek: Even if you win, you lose!
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 09-19-2018, 06:24 PM  
Irix Dragonfly 150mm Macro
Posted By mee
Replies: 156
Views: 24,957
I think so too.. plus with IBIS it could be a really nice lens for K mount.


I wonder the size and weight though.. no free lunches, I know. haha. The Sigma 150 is beefy and I can't expect this to be much different.. but maybe a little weight savings with no AF motor or IS built in?
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