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Forum: General Talk 06-13-2011, 07:20 AM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
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It could very well be that said cousin doesn't really like being in a large group of her relatives and prefers the buffer of having something else to do rather that deal with them all at once. I used to do that when I was younger too actually, sneak off with a book after a brief appearance when large groups of people were visiting. Okay, I still do that if I can manage it, lol.

I don't like large groups of people, particularly when they are relatives. Honestly? My out of state relatives I don't like half of them. They all they tend to gang up on me and on each other when they are all in the same place for very long. It's all in the name of "fun" but really it's not so much fun being around them. It feels a lot like emotional target practice and I get antsy when I have to deal with it for too long.

Now days I'm usually in back of the camera, which helps though. They do tend to leave me alone more when I've got the legitimate excuse of photos to take and edit and CD's to burn.

I've got relatives from out of state visiting later this month actually and I am not really looking forward to it at all. People visiting just means I have to work my arse off to make sure my folk place is "really" clean. I also have to cook a lot and spend a lot of awkward time in the company of people I barely know when I'd much rather be studying.

Family reunions, ick...
Forum: General Talk 06-07-2011, 03:06 PM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
Have you ever bought anything with a credit card online or even in a brick-and-mortar store?

Yes, but actually I have a pay as you go credit card for that. I don't use one linked to my regular bank accounts et all.

Shop at Amazon.com or any other online store?

Yes, see above.

Every buy off EBay or use Paypal?

I don't use them.

Ever join a contest where you had to register with your real name?

No

Ever post a photo with your real name in the watermark? ...or Promote your own

Not really. I watermark with a name I made up for my future studio, but even then it doesn't have my actual first and last name in it.

photography around the web? Have a FlickR account?

I have a photo bucket account to store pics in (for here mainly) but again there is no personal info attached to it. I don't do Flickr etc. I don't post my photos very much at all, just very occasionally on this forum and two other photo ones. Lately, just this one for the most part, if I do it at all.

Have a gmail or other "free" email account?

Yes, but I never sign up with real life name for stuff like that. I'm careful, pretty much not to give out too much info online.

Click on a banner ad anywhere?

Not if I can help it.

Use Google regularly? Have a Google account (whether email or just settings). Ever use Google Maps?

I search on Google but I have "no report" add on in Firefox that keeps what info gets sent to a minimum. I've used the maps, but usually it's to look up a particular address. Not using my own to start from, just the general vicinity. I use the generic address of the local mall actually. It's a couple of blocks from here.

Have you ever taken a candid photo of a stranger and posted it online? What about their privacy?

Yes, but almost entirely I've had their verbal permission to do whatever I wanted with said photos. When I first started I was more relaxed about street shooting, but I never did feel quite comfortable with just doing that and then posting regardless. I don't often take pics actually of people without telling them, after sometimes if necessary to get the shot, what I am up to, and without offering them a copy.

I'm polite that way. I try let them know up front that I may use it someday, and if they're really unhappy with that idea I don't use it. I may keep it for me, but I've gotten very leery of just posting anything like that unless it's a large group shot where you can't see the faces, like at a tourist spot. Even when I take a portrait at some place like that, I tell the people in them what I've done, why and I try to get at least a verbal permission to show it if need be. Most people I've taken pics of? They're quite happy to have me show them off once they see them. I've only once had someone give me a really hard time about it to the point where I had to actually delete it.

You do a Google search on me, search the various sites that gather personal info and there's virtually nothing to find. My folks have more personal info out there in cyberspace than I do and they are up there and barely qualify as computer users.

I use technology all the time, but I do believe in being wise about how I use it. Facebook, Twitter, that's going too far into public territory, giving too much personal info for me, but to each person their own. I say "Do what you want, but be careful.""
Forum: General Talk 06-07-2011, 09:30 AM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
I wouldn't if I were you. You'd lose it. No family photos of me exist that I don't own and there never will be any because I don't get in front of cameras at family events. I'm the one who takes the pics, not the one who's in them. Ditto with my friends. I actually don't much like being in places with groups of people anyway. I don't put myself in situations very often where someone would be aiming a camera at me. I never allow my pic taken when they do. Never have. Never will. My friends and family they know far better than to even try to sneak pics of me.

My whole life there's almost no records that way. There's half a dozen from when I was a baby, but after that not much. I've always avoided it, even when I was in school. I'm not in the yearbooks. No school pics past first grade. I did do a portrait session at about 20 and those were not too bad, but I have the negatives for those and the only copies. Since then? Nothing, except mandatory shots for my driver's license etc.

I like being invisible, grin.

No, actually she didn't blame Facebook. It was a fact though that the photos she put on Facebook of her and her partner were seen by her boss and that she did get fired because of them, and btw, it was perfectly legal. Little thing called a morals clause. Her employer was a religious organization and as such they are actually exempt by law from prosecution for discrimination. State law there actually protects them fairly well in that way. Sad but true, but even if she had sued them, and she knew better, she would have lost. She was hoping it wouldn't go there, but she also knew them, and she had her resume ready in case it did. She had hidden her relationship for years, but she felt it was time, and she did post them even though she knew it could and likely would go that way if they saw them, shrug.

Hate to say this but in 2011, in a lot of places, even when it is blatant discrimination you can't just sue. Some people are pretty much still exempt from prosecution no matter how how utterly wrong that is.

As for embracing Facebook and the like, please. Just because something is there doesn't mean I have to do anything with it. Yes, it's a major piece of life for a lot of people, but that doesn't mean I have to participate just because my friends do. That's ridiculous. That's like saying you "must" use email over regular mail because it's there and because so many people use it that it's become common.

I use email all the time. But I know several people even now who still prefer real letters to email, paper and pen to writing on a computer. Who will still sit down and take the time to write more than one paragraph to people. Who will still send real cards etc.

There are a lot of things the general public chooses to do that I won't do. I'm not much of a follower. I go my own way. Blaze my own trail. Obviously, otherwise I'd likely be tying this reply at someone on a Canikon board! :lol:
Forum: General Talk 06-07-2011, 08:20 AM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
Yeah I realize I have a choice, of course, and that's why I choose to exercise it. To watch what I say online, what I do, what I post. This is why I don't just post pics of myself online all over the place like some people do and tell everything I do all the time on Twitter.

My friends, they tend to have a clue. Good, real friends don't post pics of you without asking and while I may not be on Facebook, a lot people I know are, and I can assure you I'd find out and fairly quickly too.

I'm not just talking about myself and what "I" do. I'm not most people and I am fully aware of that. But I've had a friend or two get in trouble for posting certain stuff online.

One friend got herself fired for finally admitting she was gay online, for posting pics of herself and her partner online. It was a brave move on her part finally coming out. She worked for a religious outfit that was actively anti-gay, and she knew that it likely might cost her her job, but she did it anyway. Because she just couldn't hide that part of her life anymore. Nonetheless the people that fired her definitely did so in direct answer to her coming out and because of her Facebook pics.

I also had someone who I knew who was being stalked by an ex put back in jeopardy because some idiot friend of hers posted pics of her in a group in a club situation. Her ex used info from someone else's account to connect with the right group of friends, realized what club they were going to and accosted her there. Fortunately he didn't have a gun and he didn't make a move on her in public. He harassed her but that was it, no fists, this time.

No, it's not Facebook that's the problem, it's the people using it that you have to worry about...
Forum: General Talk 06-06-2011, 12:05 PM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
Actually, I don't even like seeing my face in a family photo album. Any friend of mine that posts any pic of me sans my permission anywhere won't be for long, and btw, they know that. I'm far too smart to get caught with my panties down online. ;P But that's my point, I don't choose to parade my whole life on a Facebook page, because I am a very private type person, and sensible when it comes to where my personal stuff goes.

Many people today aren't though. They talk on the phone about the most sensitive things in public, post their children's pics, their full names etc online. They stupidly tell everyone when they going on vacation online and then cry when they come back to find their house has been burgled.

Common sense is a bit less prevalent than it used to be it seems. People who get into this habit of showing off everything they can get careless about it. You're right it's not Facebook that's the problem, it's the people USING it that need to think hard about "how" they are doing it sometimes.

I avoid it because I don't feel the need to have all that up there front and center for millions to potentially see. I'm not at all ashamed of how I live my life, but there are things, and I'm sure this applies to almost anyone, that I'd be fine with my friends knowing that I wouldn't be as okay with having an employer know.

You never know what other people might not like. Something as simple as a choice of an alternative religion for example or maybe supporting a certain cause or having ideals that an employer doesn't like for some reason just might cost you a job.
Forum: General Talk 06-06-2011, 10:49 AM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
The reason I don't have a Facebook page is the same reason that I don't just post my private pictures, info online. I don't particularly want every aspect of my life being searchable on Google. These people who post all their most intimate stuff in blogs, on Twitter, and on sites like Facebook, how many of them are finding that doing that comes back to haunt them?

I'm already having a rough time getting and keeping work. Last thing I need is anything out there in cyberspace that might reflect badly upon me when it comes to someone doing a hiring search. If people want to use sites like that, whatever, but I do think it's always best to be somewhat careful about what you're putting out there. It's not always good to just broadcast yourself and your life like that.
Forum: General Talk 06-06-2011, 09:53 AM  
The Anti-Facebook Crowd...
Posted By magkelly
Replies: 153
Views: 17,704
I don't have any interest in those type of social platforms. I don't do Facebook. I don't do Twitter. I was all gung ho to participate until I saw that. I don't have a problem with visiting a sponsor per se, but I'm not going to go and join Facebook just to be able to submit a photo to the contest, sorry. Why open an account I'll never use only to let it sit there blank just so I can upload and do the contest? That's not very practical.
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