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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
10-29-2019, 10:13 AM
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I think to a large degree this is true, but to another large degree people simply assume that older lenses aren't good enough because other people say they aren't good enough. Looking at how lenses are reviewed, apart form the fact that pentaxians obviously like pentax and tend to give pentax lenses high grades, it does seem to be the case that older zooms dont do well at all, apart from the previously mentioned examples (plus the 24-50mm). The fact that even older OEM pentax zooms get bad marks makes me trust the high marks the few well-reviewed zoom lenses receive more. Is that justified? I can't tell. I don't own a comparable couple of new and old-but-highly-reviewed zooms.
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
10-28-2019, 04:27 AM
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I agree completely. But looking at the reviews, there seem to be some exceptions to the rule. Zoom lenses from the film era that are very highly reviewed. Examples of this are the mentioned FA*80-200/2.8, the FA*250-600, and to a lesser degree the 20-35/4. All of these are new enough to have been designed with computing tools, although I have no proof of that being done. And while they might not hold up to the highest modern standard, I'd still expect them to be at least as good as a modern consumer zoom.
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
10-28-2019, 03:02 AM
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I still think the lens I suggested to you before, the FA* 80-200/2.8, should give you what you want. Its not as compact as a 70-200/4 should be, but judging by the reviews on this site, it is as good as you can expect a zoom to be. Its also a 2.8 lens that goes for a used price in the range I'd expect a new full-frame 70-200 to be, although I'd be happy to be pleasantly surprised.
I'm a prime guy myself, and as far as prime lenses go, there are a lot of old lenses that definitely do match the capabilities of the K-1. With zooms it seems that modern designs do often offer some improvements, but there are a few highly regarded older zooms out there as well.
Maybe I am wrong, but I do not remember pentax promising a complete new range of beginner, intermediate and pro lenses covering all the usual primes and zooms in both f/4 and f/2.8 and f/3.5-5.6 within a few years. The fact that you expected that is not pentax' fault.
Have a look around at what kind of pictures people manage to make with the K-1. Leave out the very expensive lenses, and you'll see that people still manage to make stunning photographs with the K-1.
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
10-27-2019, 02:54 AM
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I agree with the sentiment, and of course everyone would be happier if new lenses would come out faster. I'm personally also not in the market for the new 50/1.4 or 85/1.4, thats simply beyond my budget (plus I want my kit to be at least somewhat portable).
However, the earlier statements: 'this currently looks like blackmail to Pentax users', 'why we have no choice in Pentaxland' and 'I feel that the Pentax far inferior to canikoson' I cannot absolutely not agree with.
The first two are simply objectively false. The situation in no way resembles blackmail. Pentax is not telling us to buy the 50mm/1.4 or it will send pictures of us with a mistress (or the male equivalent) to our spouses. That is an example of what blackmail would be. Also, we do have choice in pentax land. We might not currently have the choice that you want, but thats a completely different statement. The last statement is an opinion, so it might be true for you. Its not true for me. Canon sells nothing that I want. They don't have a K-1 or KP, their cameras are generally not as good at dynamic range or high iso, and their lenses are usually huge. The cameras are also often not as nicely built, and more bulky.
Now if you were to state: the canon lens ecosystem seems superior to the pentax one, I guess quite a few people might agree. But thats not what you said at all.
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors
10-26-2019, 05:43 AM
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What a strange choice of words to describe a normal situation. With any company, you can only choose to buy the products they actually offer. That is not blackmail in any way, you are no forced to buy anything. And purely because you might not have the specific choices that you want to have, there is plenty of choice in pentax land, including a very highly reviewed pentax FA*80-200/2.8 that goes for less than what the new 70-200/4 will likely cost.
I dont understand these 'I can't get what I personally want right now, and will therefore ignore there are options and there is progress' type of responses.
EDIT: as an addional point: please don't state 'pentax FF users are looking for / want X' without substantial evidence. Not everyone wants the same thing. As an example, I too am a pentax FF user, but I am not looking for any of the lenses you describe. I shoot nearly only primes and have the ones that I need. Some of the lenses I am thinking about buying include the FA limiteds, which accidentally do not exist outside of pentax land.
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