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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-23-2012, 09:29 AM
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I feel the need for the FA LTDs myself (and the DALTDs second or to fill out the wide on apsc), I've considered selling of most of my various kit just to get those with a new body
But I know I will just start collecting again after doing that :D:D:D
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-23-2012, 09:11 AM
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LOL you must have a lot of lenses then :D:D:D
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-23-2012, 06:18 AM
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One difference having been a MAC retailer....the dealer cost is so high you can't afford to discount below the apple store. the the difference in the apple store is they are taking that last 5-10% of the profit margin for Apple :D
In this case the dealers are the beneficiaries. Nikon and Canon are better examples they have very tight control on their pricing and there is really no difference between B&M and Web pricing and the best time to buy is rebate periods
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 11:37 AM
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I think when the EU people do the comparison on price they remove the VAT actually
The rest is a discussion for P&R. and there is a solution that get's that stuff for the American public but not with the way people vote now. but that is a discussion for elsewhere
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 11:06 AM
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On this I will support the US guys Clavius. the nature of the North American market is a very large are with pockets of heavy population and then a long way to the next one with many small towns between
You mention Paris having 7 (I think with multi outlets it's actually more storefronts) but take the smaller centers like Montpelier perhaps and it is a different story (france actually has pretty good coverage and in general there is no long distance between major centers. the European market is wildly different in general you still have very vibrant independent retail in all areas. the big box revolution was not half as damaging as it was over here from what i have seen
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 10:42 AM
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I did preface that with no sour grapes from me but try and see it from a perspective other than your own individual one
I'll ask again how do you know that more tangible gains aren't part of the plan. As someone who spent 25 years at retail this move would say to me that Pentax is going to support what they have been telling me since CES earlier this year. This could close some dealer agreements. I think there is a need to add some value through better warranty support. Given the 18-135 is SDM and I haven't seen complaints of failure from it I think the SDM issue may be resolved but not communicated. The number of complaints about recent purchase lenses failing seems to be far lower now would support that. I think they should have done a better job with support on the early ones though.
Until we can see the whole plan in effect though there really is no point to the endless complaining. Either the changes will give you value or they won't. If they don't vote with your wallet and change to a brand that gives you what it is you are looking for.
I'm not averse to changing brands (I've owned Pentax, Nikon and Canon in the past in 35mm SLR), but for me Pentax still hits the sweet spot
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 09:48 AM
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No sour grapes here, but I am glad to see the disparity addressed. I want my local retailers to stay in the business of Pentax and when an outside dealer disrupts the market by undercutting it as much as the US web market did then We lose dealers Just like the same concept is killing B&M in your own country.
I don't personally think the gear is overpriced up here for the most part. I think what will happen eventually is your prices will normalize to about where ours are.
As for the attack on SDM lenses, what is the current breakdown ratio? I know a few years back there were a lot of issue, I don't actually see as many now. Should the warranty be better? yep i think so. I also think there are new lenses in the works to replace the 16-50 for instance (which in reality is the lens that gave SDM it's bad rap)
If a new generation of DA* comes along with a new motor and warranties go to 5 years on lenses but maintain the one on bodies woudl you be happy?? Personally I doubt it at this point.
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 09:14 AM
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Black isn't carrying the line right now. that may change though now that the price disruption from the US market is gone
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 07:55 AM
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So far this hasn't impacted canadian pricing, but in general we haven't been in a race to the bottom on margins for lenses up here, and many of the us prices are now what our regular price is.
No reason for us to participate
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion
04-18-2012, 07:32 AM
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Agreed, No pledge for me and I have a plan for a couple of new lenses this year actually
I wouldn't have bought them from the US in any case.
Retailers need support to maintain margins to stay in business. For the entire time i've been on the forum I've listened to whining and bitching about the lack of retail options blah blah blah from the Us, now they take action to fix the issue and I get this whining about that
You can't have your cake and eat it too guys sorry
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