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Forum: General Talk
06-12-2011, 04:40 PM
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I can't understand how someone "staring" at a phone (as you put it) in a restaurant has any impact on you at all. Is it really any of your business unless they *directly* impact on you? That's their thing - not yours. You seem to make major generalisations as if it is everybody. Well, I know from my exposure and circles that it most certainly isn't.
If I felt I was being ignored in the environments I was in and I wanted to not "be ignored" then I'd look for an environment that the potential to offer more of what I was looking for. You've found one here and I don't doubt there are many other avenues open to you.
"Sad" is from your perspective. To some others the perspective might be that it is sad that you feel that way - and on and on ...
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Forum: General Talk
06-12-2011, 04:28 PM
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Um, since when did I make a single mention of anyone in the company of "supposed" friends?
I also find that rude at times depending on the situation. Friends can often do their own thing while in each others company. If you can't, at times, then I'd question the "supposed" friendship (as you put it).
I've also found it rude when my cousin would vanish at Christmas gatherings and head off to read a book. Well, I'd find it rude then but have learnt more understanding and tolerance now. I respect others choices much more and don't see a point in judging someone else or getting myself upset or stressed out over what someone else chooses to do. It would be rude for me to not respect their choice.
Does the behaviour you mention actually interfere with you? Would you like it to be different and is making it different within your control? Unfortunately, there are unreasonably high expectations of Christmas gatherings at times. Some of us have learnt that the hard way. Issues with family members often run deeper than specific situations.
Yes there are times for "other" things. Same deal with anything isn't it? You might even get a complaint from a wife whose husband spends way too much time going out with his camera and taking photos when she thinks he should be spending more time with her. Choose your balance that best suits your own "environment".
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Forum: General Talk
06-12-2011, 07:25 AM
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Can't see any issue with the shot of the 2 girls. They are possibly being "social" and "communicating". We don't know what they are doing from here - FB is implied. Maybe they are sending a text saying they will be late home or getting directions. If it was texting or FB during a class or they were riding or even walking while doing it then - different story.
As for your work situation, well, the fact that they are "grown" doesn't mean that excludes them from using another communication and information tool. Are they "staring" or "doing"?
It would be nice if you had more direct communication with your co-workers during your break for sure. Maybe they would like the same too. I've been in plenty of work situations where people go there own way during "breaks" (off to pay bills or run errands or some stay and do more work) and some where there has been a lot of interaction and some where initial interaction dies and small groups are formed.
I will be the first to agree that sometimes FB, phones and texting are overdone (according to my basis but not necessarily to others). I'm really not in a place to judge others on their use because it is their choice (just as it is someone's choice not to use those resources). What I don't personally believe in is "throwing the baby out with the bath water".
Much of this discussion would have been relevant some years ago but would have been about the internet in general and much of it could be now generalised to the internet now. FB is just one aspect of it but it *does* tend to centralise a lot (maybe too much now). For me it's a brilliant place to keep up with a lot of sports I follow and to keep me informed on what's happening with some of my friends who are a bit distant. Some of them I'd prefer to be a bit distant.
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Forum: General Talk
06-12-2011, 05:16 AM
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I keep an eye on my Niece and Nephew on Facebook and I find it to be the total opposite. I see their Network as being one which has expanded and enhanced their interactions and relationships. I'm actually envious of it. They started on Facebook at 13 and 15 and have been on for 2 years.
One of them is bored and posts a message and mates jump up "me too", "there is something on at ..", "let's go to ....", "call me and lets talk .." ....
My nephew has had a few family issues and if he is in "a mood" he might post to FB and will get some fantastic peer support. If he steps out of line then someone will often step in.
For them, and for many, it isn't creating so called "shallow friendships" but instead being used to enhance existing relationships and create new ones. Whether new relationships end up being shallow or "deep" depends on many factors but the opportunity is there. It all depends on whether you want to take control of the opportunities you have or assume that FB is some sort of external beast that controls you.
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Forum: General Talk
06-08-2011, 11:34 AM
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Forum: General Talk
06-07-2011, 10:06 AM
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I find it a bit ironic that it wouldn't be that long ago we might be having this discussion about the Internet in general (but not here of course). For some, even using the internet or email or a forum like this is still an issue.
In the end I think it is magkelly's choice and I respect that (not saying you don't).
This competition - well it's part of the newest marketing hype that we may not like but I really don't think it's such a big deal.
I'd possibly have to agree that there should maybe be a similar comp run without the same conditions, Exposure for the company could be simply by publication of the fact that they promote it. I've refused in the past to enter a competition that required I buy a Norton subscription but would be more likely to buy a subscription (as long as the software has improved since I last tried it and supported issues it caused) if they had the competition open and since they also support a sport I follow.
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Forum: General Talk
06-07-2011, 09:20 AM
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I agree it has changed and moved away from being solely a networking site. It is becoming social marketing. Twitter is to an extent too. I'm often amazed how many follows I get from businesses that also want me to follow them. In the end we will choose how much that influences us but I can see your point. Marketers will ride on the back of anything they can.
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Forum: General Talk
06-07-2011, 08:50 AM
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Good on her! She knew the risk and she took it but she considered that being open was the way to go and she then used Facebook to her advantage. I'd say she would have cause to follow up for unfair dismisal unless your law allows discrimination by religious organisations (some countries do - Australia has reintroduced it in the state of Victoria)
And that's the world and it isn't confined to Facebook. You use common sense. Unfortunately, many people don't and that can lead to risk like your second example. Opening yourself up to mre of the world exposes you to more risk. It also exposes you to more opportunity. As an example, I've been able to voice my opinion through Facebook in many communities and organisations and sporting groups in much the same way as can be done here. I've made many connections by doing so. I usually avoid liking a business unless it is one I want to deal with and I've had better offers through some business Facebook sites than directly through their online stores.
You take control and you choose.
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Forum: General Talk
06-07-2011, 08:35 AM
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I can't see where it says you have to "recommend" anything to anyone. You "like" a page in the same way you might like a sports or community group. You mainly do that so you get posts from them on your wall for your own information. That usually goes mostly unnoticed by others (I get likes from my neice and nephew by the dozen each day and they are mostly likes for sayings they find funny).
For a business it's a way of knowing what their latest deals are and subscribing to a virtual catalogue. It's very different from some of the competitions where you get a pop-up that accesses your friends list and then "suggests" you check boxes and places posts on your friends walls for all of their friends to see. I avoid those like the plague.
The promoter (B&H) wants exposure and they will get some. They would also like to expose you to the offers they have. That's totally understandable. Whether you enter is your choice as well as it is your choice, after the competition or before, to remove your "like" if the information you get on your wall as a result of liking their page is not to your liking. Nobody else sees that - they just see your initial like.
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Forum: General Talk
06-07-2011, 07:50 AM
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Actually, you have as much chance of winning as anyone else. My understanding is that, with the current comp, the photo submission gives you a ticket in the draw and the winner isn't judged on the photo. I think you need to like both the Pentaxforum Facebook page and B&H photographics (they are the sponsor) Facebook page.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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