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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-20-2016, 11:30 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
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And so? The key benefits of K3 are pro quality + better AF. yet you prefer K70 AF that the same as prevous generation of K5-II but ask for D500 that is light years ahead..

You say Pentax camera are soft while they are as sharp as the lens you put on them and certainy as sharp as any other camera with the same sensor... like any camera.

Attached a 100% crop, no pixel shift, nothing special an it is crazy sharp still... because this is "only" 24MP this crop is actually 1/6 of the picture in both direction. Taken with FA31, effective framing 280mm FF equivalent. With you K70 or K3 you can print 30x40" no issue, you don't even need to enable pixel shift.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-20-2016, 07:32 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
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Really but then why do we need a new camera? It already exist it is called K3 or K3-II depending of the flavor... As if you prefer a foveon from sigma? Why not just buy one, honestly ? Myself I would have absolutely no issue with you buying one. Sigma neither.

Anyway what name that camera should get? K3 1.5 ?
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-18-2016, 02:58 PM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
Everybody has different need. I had a K5, the AF was soso overall and really terrible in low light. Actual high iso performance didn't matter because the subject was not properly in focus. Getting a shallow dof portrait right was also a challenge you asked the camera to focus on the eyes it could focus on the ear or on the nose... Then I brough a K3. The AF is fast all the time and perform well in low light. My portraits have the focus were I want it. For me this is the most important difference by far.

Now the 24MP + no low pass filter also mean that before if I was to crop, I had less margin, it would start to show On the K3 the image stay sharp. This is not big, but that's conveniant. More important maybe for sharpness, it make all you lenses much sharper. People will spend thousand euros over marginally sharper lenses... But at take the 18-135 at f/8 at 31mm on the K3 and an FA31 on the K5, and you'll see the 18-135 on the K3 give you sharper image. I don't care that much but many care.

For high iso, K3 maybe a bit behind but it depend a lot of the scene. K3 high iso stay sharp much longer than K5 and you can use your prefered noise removal software to fix the noise.

And of course there the other small stuff: 2 SD cards, camera is more responsive, live view work better, white balance and exposure are more accurate...

My personal view is that I certainly don't want to go back.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-18-2016, 11:48 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
You know highend MILC are already here: A7 familly and the MF from hasselblad and if I admit you didn't write this from even, you actually lived long enough to see it. For high end APSC there A6300 and Fuji line.

As for your life expectensy, counting only your actual age 68, it is around 15 years for a man, 17 years for a woman. This is actually more than the life expectency you actually hear everywhere because it is the life expectency of somebody that was just born. And you at already 68 years, not knowing if you have any illness or anything like that and knowing you made it far up to 68 and avoided many cause of death we can expenct you to live by 83 to 85 years. And there a non negligible likelyness you could live a few years more... let say 5.

Lot of things can change in 20 years. 20 years ago there was no digital camera, no smartphone and no internet. By 20 years from now it could be very well that drones controled by our brain will take photos, we may almost all have automatic cars and robots everywhere...
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-17-2016, 11:11 PM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
I'd suspect more change than a K3-III if history is any indication. K3 vs K5 was a major change as K5 vs K7. On the contrary K5-II vs K5 was just low light AF and K3-II vs K3 was just GPS and pixel shift. I'll not buy a K3-III in term of feature with just a bigger buffer or tweaking to get same AF as in K1, honestly.

I suspect we will get a K70/KS2/K1 mix that is an articulated screen of some sort, maybe the third whell and ergonomics of K1 and a new sensor, maybe the one of K70. The AF algorithms unfortunately may not be better than the K1. And of course wifi.

But if it is only that, honestly that mean there basically now reason to buy one. We also need significantly better AFC too as well as significantly better high iso to make the thing really differentiate itself. For the sensor I am afraid, Pentax has an history of keeping sensor for long time and using more basic one than the flagship competition. For example D810 has 50iso mode and A6300 is BSI...

For AF, they should go past this 33 AF point PDAF. They need 50+ point with a wider area covered in the frame and further tweaked AF algorithms that simply perform better.

I agree that in the end, the K3-II successor should have D500 has objective, not K3-III, otherwise that will not sell well and with K3-II that will be not much more than 600€/$ to buy, it would not help Ricoh one bit on the financial part.

But ultimately, this is not a K3 successor, but I wait for something that would be a mirrorless K-mount with good AF and with small/light profile. 400-500g instead of 700-800g.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-15-2016, 11:48 PM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
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That not really the point here. The sigma not that easy to get new on K-mount anyway and we are accustomed to have branded lenses being signfiicantly more expensive than third party. Many would consider only buying Pentax so or think the branded lenses to have something more...

Also, any lens that cost as much be it the best bargain in history or very expensive will have low sales from price alone.

As for Pentax what the point to make another overpriced lens that would not sell when there already one for the few that want it? If theses still 3 years inventory, it make sense to get back that money before making something new... And if nobody buy, there no reason to make a new one anyway.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-03-2016, 04:41 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
Using the OVF, the main sensor don't see the scene so like any DSLR before it it would have to rely on the dedicated PDAF and metering modules to perform AF and tracking as well as metering.

The K70 has same hardware as KS2 (or K5): 11 point AF module and 77B&W metering. It is impossible to do any tracking with that, the camera doesn't see an image but a few area with different shade of gray and the off center AF point are huge.

The difference come fom the main sensor that can provide for metering, tracking and PDAF. The sensor see the scene when the mirror is up only, So either you shoot in LV, eiter it isn't going to happen.

The next APSC flagship will likely be build uppon K1 technology, hopefully with some improvement factored in in key areas but while K70 may pave the way for a Pentax mirrorless it isn't going to provide any significant edge toward still shooting AF vs a KS2 and will remain a few steps backward old K3 except maybe for LV.

The specs are here, there no reason to think something will magically happen while the hardware is clearly not capable of it.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-02-2016, 03:08 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
If you get the K70, you discover that it is basically a K50 when using the OVF maybe with better noise handling but that it is only using LV you'll get the great AF and all. For day to day shooting, you'll find the k3 much better.

Willing to updgrade from a K3, you should look forward the next flagship except if you don't care at all of OVF AF performance.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-02-2016, 03:05 AM  
K-3 ii successor? Just curious...
Posted By Nicolas06
Replies: 142
Views: 18,844
I expect the next APSC flagship to be a K1 with a sensor as least as good as the K70. It make sense as a small company to reuse your R&D and bring the most value you can.

So:
- KAF4
- Good video in LV mode thank the PDAF aboard the sensor.
- Would make sense to finally go 4K to finally close the gap of video features, but honestly we never know
- Articulated screen like KS2 or K1.
- Improvement of high iso handling algorithms, sensor subtraste (like K1) and slightly better sensor, maybe the one found in A6300 bringing up to 1EV more of high iso performance depending of the scene.
- Small improvement on PDAF tracking to match K1 algorithms.
- Ergonomics of K1 with 3 wheels and the function selector for the third wheel.
- the usual things: SR, pixel shift, astrotracer, optionnal AA filter, dual cards slots, about 80K point metering module etc.
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