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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-16-2014, 05:14 PM
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the computer I was using was simply one of the macs at work. i would never pay for that. Like I said, I use windows at home since i can actually build my computer and play the games I want. Mac would be useless for me.
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 03:56 PM
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I didn't insult anyone. If you feel insulted by my arguments that's not my problem. It's only a computer after all mate, don't take it personal.
I simply tried to answer his question the best I could. And with what I read from his post I think Windows is the best option for him especially since he said he would like to take advantage of the softwares available on windows. Not to mention he is on a tight budget. If he knows a thing or two about computer he will be able to save money with windows.
if he would have said he is a graphic designer and needs font compatibility with other projects or something like that than the obvious choice would have been mac.
Anyway, I work with computers and I do support for mac and pc and let me tell you that support on a mac is some what amateur-ish... And I can give you many examples, but I won't go there. I sometimes use mac and I don't really like it.... (personal choice here) I use windows for my personal use.
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To be fair, take any aging pc and replace the HDD with a SSD and maybe add some ram and you just got yourself about 2 years more out of the pc and for just under 200$. On the other hand try adding some ram and a SSD on an imac. not that easy (but doable).
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 10:12 AM
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lol first time I've been told I am being brainwashed by PC...
oh and btw, I am actually using a MAC as I write this. So, ya, I know how crappy they are.
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 09:36 AM
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Well, if it's so cheap to buy macs, why do 90% of offices choose the other way around? And you dont have to be a geek to maintain your PC, you simply need basic knowledge of computers and same thing goes to mac as well. Forget the friends argument, mac needs to be taken cared of and updated. If you dont have basic computer knowledge either computer will be hard to keep up with.
I am not talking about water cooling and over clocking here. Just simply anti virus (yes mac needs it too) and common sense. Down the road, pc will always be cheaper, your opinion is based on one little research. I have no idea what the factors are in your case, but the University of Montreal used to run a mac lab and switched to PCs and never looked back.
The reality is that you can do much less on a mac. You can't run architect software like auto-cad and most 3D programs don't run on mac. I won't even go into games.
Macs are like proche cars, they look great out of the box and the design will probably out last all the competition. Heck... it will probably be in a museum one day. But the reality is that it's useless for every day usage. Like trying to go to work in the snow, moving a fews boxes, camping or even going skiing for the weekend with the kids.
I guess the decision will come back to him, not us.
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 08:13 AM
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Poor corporate policy? Seems like it works great since windows has more than 90% of the desktop computers.
Depending on what you buy your PC will have a different life time. That is for sure. If you go to the shop and buy the cheapest PC your experience won't be good, not to mention it won't last more than 2 or 3 years.
Here we are talking about this guy that asked the initial question. I assume he has some what basic knowledge about computers and how they work. It seems like he is above average and on top of that he his on a tight budget. That's why i recommended a PC for him. If something needs tweaking or upgrading down the road he will be able to do so. Not to mention he said he would like to take advantage of greater variety of photographic software available on the windows platform. It's a no brainer here, in my opinion this guy needs a desktop PC with windows.
Also, when your pc goes wrong, there is always a brother or a friend that knows his way around windows to fix stuff for you. As for mac users it's hard to find someone that can fix your mac.... what do you do? Go to the apple store witch means more cost again.
My first advice to him would be to never listen to Mac fan boys and do the real homework of what he needs.
Now to your personal issues. Mac pros are very cute, but not very flexible and VERY expensive. the upgrades are almost non possible. Can I add a second graphic card? Can I add anything else? How many PCIe slots? Can I even add an internal HDD or SSD?
here is an excel spread sheet with some benchmarks with custom builts vs mac pro 2013
Benchmark Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhZOG2XP1V05dF9WLVcza19nZnIxaWI...Xc&usp=sharing
Check the video here:
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In conclusion: a 8000$ mac pro is about equivalent to a 4600$ custom built PC. (not to mention you can upgrade the PC in the future)
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 07:37 AM
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I dont buy your argument one sec. It's simply not true. try upgrading a mac. It's twice as expensive if you can even do it.
In a real life exemple, you need to send your computer to a shop to change your Hard drive. C'mon now... that is ridiculous.
Why would it be more expensive down the road for a pc??? please let me know because ever since I switch to PC (Yes I use to buy macs) I have never had to spend more money. As a matter of fact it's so flexible I save tons of money.
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 06:39 AM
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Do you have a SSD in your desktop PC?
As you compared both computers, you bring out a good point. You had to go to the shop to add a ssd and ram. You could probably add a ssd and ram in your desktop computer in about 10 minutes for half the price.
The bottom line is that if you are on a tight budget and want real performance, you gotta go with PC, sorry. It's the reality.
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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion
10-14-2014, 06:28 AM
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I guess this will bring up some good old mac vs windows debate. If your budget is tight and if you want to keep it for longer I have to pick the windows side.
Not only it is cheaper, you will be able to upgrade it down the road. Like if you want a new graphic card or if you want to add a Hard drive or even a some ram or any other hardware that might interest you.
I know most people prefer mac for photography, but the truth is that windows is just as good now.
The reality is that for about 1000$ you can get a super fast PC with a great monitor. As for mac, you will have to pay around 2000$ for the same.
No matter what you pick, I suggest you get a SSD in the computer with 8gb of ram. Forget the hybrid or fusion drive as apple call them. SSD is way faster and is more "future proof".
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