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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-09-2018, 02:11 PM
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I can also do it with my Pentax K1, the exposure level is displayed at the bottom of the OVF. Anyway, Pentax DSLR have 3 exposure metering modes, center, center weigthed and matrix, it's a lot more straightfoward than having the set exposure via exposure compensation by reading an histogram. If I want not blinkies in the sky I set the metering mode to matrix, if I prioritize a subject to be exposed correctly even if other parts of the images are overexposed or underexposed I use center weighted, and if the subject is smaller I use center metering. If I want to get the best possible exposure without blowing the highlights (ETTR), I set the metering to center point, I set the exposure compensation to +2ev, I point the camera to the brighter area of the frame and I press press AE_L , recompose and shoot, this way I use the max DR of my sensor with the highlight of the image exactly at the saturation level of the sensor, it's quick, it works every time. When shooting at events, there is no way to have time to adjust exposure by looking at an historgram and tracking the subject at the same time, in that case EVF bring no advantage at all. When I shoot event, I rely on automatic exposure as it is faster than any EVF thingie. And if the back ground is irregular, I use the manual mode, meter from the ambient light and keep the exposure setting as long as ambient lighting isn't changing.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-09-2018, 02:04 PM
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Anyway, the bottom line is, spending for a whole new FF system to get an EVF is ridiculously expensive, and that can't be ignored concerning the debate about DSLR versus MILC. The larger the sensor the more expensive is the move to EVF, making EVF unattractive gadget as sensors get larger. I'm afraid that despite what the marketing media want to sell us, MILC isn't enough value to justify the repurchase of MILC cameras and lenses.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-09-2018, 12:44 PM
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I understand your point of view, then you don't need a full frame camera whether it has an EVF or not. That means, Pentax doesn't need to make a mirrorless full frame camera (answer to this thread). On the other hand , if Pentax made a K30 with an EVF, at the price of a K30, you'd be happy with it. Micro 4/3 isn't far off apsc IQ, has cheap camera models, and a large selection of lenses.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-09-2018, 12:19 PM
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Well, switching from apsc to full frame or switching from OVF to EVF is not the same thing. When getting a larger format, you spend the money but you get a bump is image quality and low light capability, and you also get more 3D rendering on FF with fast lenses. Switching to full frame cost a lot of money but you get at least 1 stop better IQ at same ISO. It's the same when having a FF camera and buying a medium format system, for the money you get even more image quality.
When switching from FF OVF to FF EVF, you have to spend a lot of money, but you get a few small benefits that are usable only for static shots for when you have time to get you eye off the EVF , turn the buttons , put your eye to the EVF again etc (histogram in EVF, blow highly in EVF), you can do that with a DSLR in LV mode (Pentax K1 also has an outdoor setting that bumps up the luminescence of the back LCD), but you get no improvement in image quality. So, if you buy a 24Mp full frame MILC for $2250 with 3 lenses for $1500 each, you pay $6750 for having the OVF replaced by an EVF, that bloody expensive for what you get !
Other case: I get interested in photography and I have a compact camera, I feel like the sensor is too small especially in low light I am not happy with images. I want to buy a full frame interchangeable lens camera, I have the choice between spending $7000 for a DSLR system or spending the same money for a Nikon Z6 with 3 lenses. What system should I buy? That's different, for the $7000 , I not only get an EVF but I also get a larger sensor that will give me better image quality for every shot I will take with the FF camera.
IMO, I can justify spending the $7000 for having a full frame camera with EVF, but I can justify spending $7000 for reading the histogram and blinkies in the viewfinder.
If I want to have fun with an EVF, there are cameras with good EVF that are a lot cheaper than a FF MILC. I can get a Panasonic LX100 (with lens) for less than $500, I get 16Mp with choice of 1:1, 4:3, 3:2 , 16:9 in the viewfinder, including 4K video, etc. All the features that are available with the new FF MILC, I can have them in micro 4/3 for a lot cheaper. Fantastic u43 images found here: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/76-non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/17...-club-160.html |
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-08-2018, 11:11 PM
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I think you did not understand my point, I was referring to customer purchase logic where "most likely Pentax MILC will have a K mount is not considered" by the OP. It makes no sense to be frustrated by Pentax not offering a MILC with a different lens mount. Anyway, from customer standpoint, one of the benefit of a mirrorless system is to be smaller and lighter that is why MILC are designed with a new mount with shorter flange distance. That means, ultimately the customers buying mirrorless camera also will buy new lenses for the new mount. That is as costly as switching brand. Here, a lot of the opinions such as "I don't need to buy new lenses, I'll get an adapter" are short term fallacies. You will see that in the long term, people will renew their lenses completely, just look at Sony MILC customers, they now get G master lenses. The "foot in the door" sales technique is being used all the time, and customers know it, but since they desire to buy something new, they act like if they are not aware of the "foot in the door" technique. When Pentax release the K1, they said "With the K1, you can use ALL the lenses you already own" (implting = "you don't have to spend money on the lenses") , oh yes,and after that they sold the DFA28-105, DFA24-70, DFA70-200, DFA150-450, and now DFA*50, and customers are now complaining that new lenses aren't coming fast enough. The promise of MILC is the same, the promise is , with the adapter you won't need to buy new lenses you'll be able to use the lenses you currently own; what happens immediately after is they sell new lenses for the MILC new mount.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-03-2018, 03:42 AM
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And you did not understand that I wanted to highlight how camera companies make customers spend a lot more money than they originally intended. The adapter is a "foot in the door" technique, it's not ethical, it's a rip-off. If customer are aware of being ripped-off and they agree with it, then it fine. However, most customer are like the pavlov dog, they respond to DPR advertising and get ripped-off by buying things they don't need at all.
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You can use focus legacy glass with LV + focus peaking on your Pentax, can't you? Can you please explain what is the new dimension of photography with a mirrorless camera?
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-03-2018, 03:30 AM
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Typical Pentaxian want to use his old mf lenses, don't want to spend money, as a result Ricoh does the same LoL.
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-03-2018, 12:37 AM
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Ok, what's the point of buying a smaller camera and adding an adapter to it? I've see the Canon EF/R adapter, it's huge. Offering a lens mount adapter to customers is the same as smoking the bee hive before harvesting honey..
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if you see what I mean :-). Customers will anyhow end-up having to buy new lenses to benefit from the smaller size of their new mirror-less camera (which is one of the main argument for people getting a mirrorless system as opposed to getting a DSLR).
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Forum: Pentax Full Frame
09-02-2018, 10:33 PM
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If you are concerned about the sustaining of your K mount glass, worrying about Pentax not doing mirrorless is a contradiction. Why is that a contradiction?
Usually, the motive for having Pentax staying afloat is to be able to keep using the lenses you already own without having to spend money again into another system such as Canon, Nikon etc. That's why you're concerned by Pentax staying alive. Now, if you ask for Pentax to make a mirrorless with a different lens mount, that's basically equivalent for asking to switch systems, in that case, you should not give a damn and move to whatever brand you like. So, you're thinking logic is screwed.
The other possible reason for this post is envy. Brand A, B, C are doing that, why Pentax does not do the same?
You seem to be extremely sensitive to marketing media and social compliance, I suggest you get a Canon system so that you'll feel like being part of the main "sheep herd".
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