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Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-07-2017, 10:43 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
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You might want to check out your bold and font-size settings - your post comes across not just as shouting but screaming Gordon Ramsay-style through a megaphone! :eek: Was this intentional, or some accident of formatting? (I am assuming the latter, since the text of your argument is calm and rational.)
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-07-2017, 07:29 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
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Agree - this is the strength of mirrorless smaller-format cameras (APS-C and M4/3). I sort of want an ME or MX-sized camera with an EVF that could take the DA Limited primes. Not sure you could fit even APS-C gear in there unless you lost the mirror and shake reduction as well, and then there's the matter of trying to fit an LCD on the back... but given current and likely future directions in cellphone screen technology the latter might still be possible.

Anyone here got a KP and an MX and can take pictures of them side by side?
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-07-2017, 07:05 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
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Is it just me, or are they particularly (almost obscenely) prolific in their wide- to ultra-wide prime lineup?

Pentax aren't TOO bad at the APS-C ultra-wide prime end - they have a 14 and a 15, but there's a gap between there and 21, and then a big jump to a VERY expensive FA 31 before the el-cheapo (but still outstanding) 35/2.4 kicks in.

A budget (in the sense that the D-FA28-105 is budget) DA or D-FA 28/2.8 dropping into that second gap might be very handy. Whether we also/instead need a tiny 18/3.5 DA Limited-style lens is a matter for debate.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-07-2017, 03:40 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
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LOLOL But only the salad, and she picked out the grilled chicken.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-06-2017, 08:17 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
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Provided you have the room to back up into, that's not a bad combination (as I am currently finding out; it's my Lens of the Month for the Single in April "competition"). I bought it for macro at work, but I found the field of view too narrow in my particular lab environment (no criticism of the lens; all that's on me). I held on to it more out of inertia than anything else until now, because for a while it was my only WR lens to put on the K-5, but on the K-1 it seems to be doing very interesting things and I'm glad I kept it.



1) To these I would say "The D-FA 50*1.4 and D-FA* 85/1.4 are coming; be patient."
2) If I want an "affordable modern 70-210(300)/4-5.6 zoom" for the K-1, it's not because the F or FA series (or their third-party equivalents) aren't good enough; it's because none of them are weather-sealed. I think something like that is on its way, though; so those whinings will soon be at an end. Until then, the whiners can mount a 50-200 DA L WR and either shoot it in crop or crop it in post. If you really seriously need all thirty-six megapixels, you can justify a D-FA*70-200. Start saving.
3) If the FA Limiteds need anything modern it's weather sealing and quick shift (but can you weather-seal a lens with an aperture ring?). Otherwise no; the thing they are prized most for is their optics/subjective rendering, and if you even change the coatings to HD you might upset all that.
4) That something historical is called "the aperture coupler", or perhaps "analogue TTL protocol" - yeah, I do want both of those back, but getting the first would probably cost us shake reduction (or a significant increase in the size of the body), and getting the second... hmm, I would like to think this can be done in firmware, reading off the sensor, but we shall see what the future of P-TTL brings.
5) If you want a full-frame DSLR for the price of a mid-range APS-C body, you won't find it new and you won't find it from Pentax. Not for a while, anyway.
6) People who want high quality video should IMNSHO go out and get themselves a proper (insert bad adjective here) video camera.
7) Do not ask for whom the bell tolls; right now, it tolls for Panasonic.

Tamron makes plenty of lenses for Pentax - under Pentax contract.

OP, if you've bought into a dead ecosystem then so have I - and much more recently than you. The difference is that I sat on my decision to get a K-1 for TWELVE MONTHS, sorting out what it would or would not offer me before I plonked down that huge amount of cash. I have no full frame lenses for it that aren't at least seven years old. Some of them are at least FORTY-seven years old, and one or two might be pushing sixty.

I can't wait to shoot with them.
Forum: Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 04-06-2017, 04:29 AM  
Have I brought into a dead Eco System
Posted By pathdoc
Replies: 178
Views: 20,148
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, the dark path are they.

Pentax have recently announced a 50mm f/1.4 and an 85mm f/1.4 prime as the next to be released.

As for the other lens makers, volume is money and these are not the good old days when K-mount cameras were released under the Ricoh, Chinon and Sears brands as well as Pentax (though Sears were invariably Ricohs or Chinons made under contract). Pentax is no longer one of the Big Two, and the Pentax full-frame market is very small compared to Canon and Nikon. The trouble with producing hordes and hordes of different lenses is that you need hordes and hordes of people to buy them. Otherwise you end up with stuff just sitting on shelves... and hordes and hordes of corporate debt. Nikon are currently struggling, as are Panasonic. Canon, for all we know, may be not waving but drowning. Ricoh/Pentax are pacing themselves nicely - Pentax have come close to death already, and they don't want to go there again.

You will find that a lot of the older, film-era lenses are not to be sneezed at, and even some of the manual-focus screwmount lenses of over forty years ago are more than capable of holding their own optically against their modern brethren. All it takes is an exercise of the photographer's art.

Jumping ecosystems is a matter of careful research BEFORE you switch - not just bodies, but lenses and other accessories. If anything, actual and potential lens availability right now (with the announcement of the high end fast fifty and 85) is better than when you bought your K-1. The time to be worried about the Pentax lens ecosystem was when you were still with Canon - and if that was your genuine concern, perhaps the appropriate jump should have been to Nikon, whose D810 has the same sensor as the K-1 and is pretty much its distant cousin.
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